Friday, October 13th 2023
AMD Ryzen X3D Processors are Popular with TPU Readers, 23% Market Share: Poll Results
AMD Ryzen processors with 3D Vertical Cache technology, denoted with the "X3D" brand extension on processor model numbers, are showing unexpected popularity numbers with close to a quarter of respondents to a TechPowerUp Frontpage Poll question saying that they use one. In August, we asked our readers if they use a Ryzen X3D processor. The question was "Are you using an AMD Ryzen X3D CPU with 3D V-Cache?" This was a few months into the launch of the Ryzen 7000X3D processor series that restored the gaming performance leadership for AMD against Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processors.
Since the poll went live in August, we've seen 31,862 responses. From these, 14,732, or 46% say that they use a classic Ryzen processor (one without 3D V-cache). followed by 9,780 or 31% saying they use an Intel processor; an impressive 4,316 or 14% saying they use a Socket AM4 Ryzen 5000X3D series processor (5800X3D or 5600X3D); followed by 3,034 or 10% saying they use the latest 7000X3D series "Zen 4" processors. The X3D series together make 7,350 votes, or 23%.
The 3D Vertical Cache technology involves enlarging the last-level L3 cache of the processor by stacking the serious of the processor's 7 nm "Zen 3" or 5 nm "Zen 4" CPU core die (CCD) with a 64 MB L3 cache die (L3D) built on the 6 nm process. This die operates at the same performance as the on-die 32 MB L3 cache, and hence adds to it as a 96 MB continuously addressable cache block visible to software. This large amount of fast memory sitting close to the CPU cores allows a larger amount of game data to be stored at a significantly faster storage medium than the DDR4/DDR5 main memory, resulting in tangible gaming performance improvements. Depending on the game, these range anywhere between -2% to 23%.
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is an exceptionally popular processor, as it allows those on the older Socket AM4 platform to achieve gaming performance on-par with a newer desktop powered by a Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake" processor (around 15% to 20% higher gaming performance than a regular 5800X). AMD's first Ryzen 7000 processors roughly match the 5800X3D in gaming performance despite lacking 3D V-cache, on the backs of improved IPC of the "Zen 4" cores, and faster DDR5 memory, but were swiftly beaten by the 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake." AMD responded with the 7000X3D processors, which restore the gaming performance leadership over the 13th Gen, with the 7800X3D in particular being the fastest gaming processor that's widely available.
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TechPowerUp Frontpage Poll
Since the poll went live in August, we've seen 31,862 responses. From these, 14,732, or 46% say that they use a classic Ryzen processor (one without 3D V-cache). followed by 9,780 or 31% saying they use an Intel processor; an impressive 4,316 or 14% saying they use a Socket AM4 Ryzen 5000X3D series processor (5800X3D or 5600X3D); followed by 3,034 or 10% saying they use the latest 7000X3D series "Zen 4" processors. The X3D series together make 7,350 votes, or 23%.
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is an exceptionally popular processor, as it allows those on the older Socket AM4 platform to achieve gaming performance on-par with a newer desktop powered by a Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake" processor (around 15% to 20% higher gaming performance than a regular 5800X). AMD's first Ryzen 7000 processors roughly match the 5800X3D in gaming performance despite lacking 3D V-cache, on the backs of improved IPC of the "Zen 4" cores, and faster DDR5 memory, but were swiftly beaten by the 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake." AMD responded with the 7000X3D processors, which restore the gaming performance leadership over the 13th Gen, with the 7800X3D in particular being the fastest gaming processor that's widely available.
100 Comments on AMD Ryzen X3D Processors are Popular with TPU Readers, 23% Market Share: Poll Results
Anything less isn't worth the hassle, imo.
Even a 5900X running in its stock boost range with boosted power limits and some curve is stronger than stock.
My last platform that was worth tinkering with was a i9 9900k on Z390 but even it lost badly to a stock 5800X with a Bdie tune.
Games are silky smooth, system feels more snappy than before for some reason (maybe single CCD related there)
The only tasks i really do that are compute heavy are transcoding blue rays into mp4 files, which i use the GPU for anyway.
It's also a perfect upgrade path on AM4 if your still on 2700X or below, roughly 50% faster.
The interesting thing about the X3D - they where originally designed as Epyc with large leaps of extra cache that could benefit from it. The engineering team had to figure something out to re-use the less usable parts and that is kind of how the X3D was born.
Downsides are: You can't overclock it. Overvolting to above 1.35V instant death for it's CPU cache. The cache is tied to the voltage rail of the CPU. The IPC for applications that cannot use the extra cache is a bit lower compared to a 5800X for example due to lower clocks.
...why does the headline say 25% when the poll says 7,350/31,862, which is 23.06%? I'm a little confused.
:rockout:
Multi-threaded performance may not be the best but X3D CPUs just make for a responsive system. It's only consuming 60w the whole time as well, going to need to crank up my GPU for the winter because the CPU is not nearly enough to heat it up, even running encodes 24/7.
very powerful in games and consumes far less Watts than the high-end Intels under load
Doesn’t heat like crazy too, easy to cool
to sum up: For gaming it has everything: price, power, stability (make sure you have the latest bioses) and efficiency
Just because you can do a little bit better with some tweaking, it doesn't mean that stock is garbage.
I don't mind saying that I do occasionally cast a jealous eye at the X3D owners mind you! I was very impressed with my 18k Cinebench score until my manager cooly informed me his 7950X3D got 34k, oof.
Ok, this is an outlier among others.
The real difference between the beloved 5800X3D and 7800X3D, is quite significant.
Not that I need to upgrade my 5800X3D but sometimes I see some benches like the below and I say....LOOK AT THAT!