Motherboard reviews: What matters the most to you?

[dirtyferret]

20k hours at what temperature?

20k is probabaly not hours

20k hours at 85c or 105c usually, translates into decade+ of normal use under normal mobo conditions

just an FYI 20k @ 85c should equal 5k @ 105c under the 10c lifetime design

 

[Space Lynx]

just an FYI 20k @ 85c should equal 5k @ 105c under the 10c lifetime design

so it might just be a marketing scam switching up the numbers. sigh. this modern world annoys the hell out of me.

 

[dirtyferret]

and since they rarely if ever get that hot, realistically its probably more like 40k hours?

More likely more than that so I wouldn't lose sleep on it, even the bargain caps last years upon years

which is why this is more of a nice detail/icing on the cake thing and not actually a big deal in the world of mobo's? a 5k caps probably lasts 15k because they never reach 105 Celsius, except on badly designed boards or bad airflow cases, etc

could also be a bit of marketing at play, lower the temp to increase the lifespan of the same cap

so it might just be a marketing scam switching up the numbers. sigh. this modern world annoys the hell out of me.

lol yeah just beat me to it, regardless good board at a good price.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

so it might just be a marketing scam switching up the numbers. sigh. this modern world annoys the hell out of me.

Unless you have 0 airflow in a sealed case the likelihood of a capacitor dying is extremely low. Somthing else will die long before your capacitors do.

All marketing has some BS in it as long as the board ticks all the boxes in what you need as a consumer you really shouldn't worry too much otherwise. It looks like a solid board at that price offering more for your money than most.

 

[bonehead123]

Well, a lot of good ideas here

This is not a point for point response per se, but here are my thoughts in general:

A) Shorten the intro, description, and packaging sections, unless the mfgr is bringing/introducing something revolutionary or highly innovative. High-resolution & close-up pics of the board itself, and possibly the included accessories would suffice....but do we REALLY need to see 3-6 pics of the outside of the box or the cardboard/faom/plastic inserts ?

B) Post the MSRP within the top of the very 1st paragraph, and analyze the price-performance ratio right after that, then place the board in the correct category/context... ie budget, mid-range, top of the line, super-duper-uber-exquisite-no-expense-spared etc...

C) List all the so-called/advertised "features" then call out any that don't work as advertised or are buggy, and whether those features require the use of additional software or hardwarez to utilize or are capable of being utilized using only the hardware on the board. This should include the BIOS also.

D) Instead of a page full of test results on everything under the sun... pick the top 5 uses and report on the results of those.... this would also have the added benefit of making the charts/graphs/tables shorter & easier to interpret

ie...if the board is targeted at creatives/pro/semi-pro users, then limit the tests to those tasks, cause those folks probably won't care much about results for gamin performance.

But OTOH, if the board is targeted to gammrs, the pick out the 5 most popular recent gamz & report on the results from them... cause if it can run those, it will certainly be capable of running the older ones, and consequently, gamrs are less likely to be concerned about Photoshop or Excel test results.

E) Do we REALLY need to see boards tested with every single cpu/gpu in a given series ? I believe that most folks here understand that the i9-xx is the top of the line model, and the i3-xx is the low end unit, as well as an RTX-4090 vs a 2060, and understand that performance should be either yowza at the top end or sufficiently "ok" at the bottom end... granted some combinations may yield either better or worse results, but the users should be able to draw their own conclusions based on a comparision of the respective test results

E) Limit the "conclusions" to a "good, bad & ugly" rating, base the recommendations on how well the board performs it's intended uses...

Personally, I only look at the parts of the review that are important to me, and skip over the rest.....but that's just me & my well-tuned data mining skills at work !

 

[Space Lynx]

Unless you have 0 airflow in a sealed case the likelihood of a capacitor dying is extremely low. Somthing else will die long before your capacitors do.

All marketing has some BS in it as long as the board ticks all the boxes in what you need as a consumer you really shouldn't worry too much otherwise. It looks like a solid board at that price offering more for your money than most.

Yeah, I like the board a lot, no issues. I just dislike being tricked.

 

[dirtyferret]

Yeah, I like the board a lot, no issues. I just dislike being tricked.

I don't think you were tricked. It's a solid cap and really a non issue, if they swapped in cheap aluminum caps then you were tricked. FYI, the 560 on the cap is most likely the uf, the J the tolerance code, the D# is most likely the batch run.

 

[ir_cow]

Unless you have 0 airflow in a sealed case the likelihood of a capacitor dying is extremely low. Somthing else will die long before your capacitors do.

All marketing has some BS in it as long as the board ticks all the boxes in what you need as a consumer you really shouldn't worry too much otherwise. It looks like a solid board at that price offering more for your money than most.

Yep. I'm dealing with this at work. 85c caps from 2000 are finally going out. 24 years of use isn't bad a Gateway PC. But when they do go, it takes the whole MB out with it.