Monday, July 27th 2009

GeForce GTS 240 Spotted in OEM Channels

NVIDIA's move to rebrand the GeForce 9800 GTX+ to GeForce GTS 250 was meant to be followed with a similar rebranding for the GeForce 9800 GT, to GeForce GTS 240. The company even prepared a reference PCB design for the accelerator. Alas, the move wasn't popular NVIDIA's partners, who forced it shelve the plans.

Apparently NVIDIA wants to continue development of the GeForce GTS 240, at least for its OEM customers, if not AIC partners that cater to the retail consumer segment. The GeForce GTS 240 reference design accelerator is in accordance with the schematics that surfaced back in February, and maintains a single-slot design overall. Under the hood is the 55 nm G92b graphics processor with 112 shader processors, a 256-bit GDDR3 memory interface, 1 GB of memory, and reference clock speeds that match that of GeForce 9800 GT OC: 675/1620/1100 (core/shader/memory). The card supports 2-way SLI, and should be priced in the sub $130 space.

Source: TechConnect Magazine
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44 Comments on GeForce GTS 240 Spotted in OEM Channels

#1
AltecV1
how nice is this,another rebranded card:shadedshu
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#2
$ReaPeR$
this has become very boring
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#3
legends84
lol.. I thought GTS240 was canceled.. another re brand.. come on nvidia. come out with other newer cards
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#4
jamesrt2004
by: legends84
lol.. I thought GTS240 was canceled.. another re brand.. come on nvidia. come out with other newer cards
it was.... add in board partners got pissed off, so they cancelled it, but now they've done a u-turn and carrying on with it...

kinda sad tbh, people with 8800gt just flash the card's haha free "upgrade.."
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#5
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Well, gg Nvidia. theyve just opend up the doors for more 'trolls' such as Gonzalez/Beta34 to come & sing the G92 9800GT/GTX/GTX+ praises.

I wonder how much money they are making out of these rebadges? Obviously the average consumer wont catch on Instantly that a rebaged card was most possibly the same card he had in his last machine but under a different name.

there should be some laws or injunctions put in place to stop them rehashing stuff that really doesnt need to be rehashed.

the mid range market is already saturated with with GTX260's & 275's - I admit that the G92 makes up a sizeable chunk of that market. (I just realised most Nvidia cards below a 260 are rebadged cards....ooops)

but in light of that - ATi's 4770 performs BETTER & its also cheaper then a 9800GT.
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#6
newtekie1
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You know, while the rebrands kind of suck because I'd like to see some new tech hit the market, most poeple reasons for not liking the rebrands suck just as much...

The argument that people are getting tricked into buying the same card over again, and they will disappointed because of it doesn't make any sense, and isn't logical.

If you already have an 8800GT, you already have a high-end card from its generation. If you upgrade to a high-end card to a mid-range card of the next generation, you should know there isn't going to be much difference. This is regardless of if the card is actually a new card or a rebrand.

@[USER=38411]FreedomEclipse[/USER]: The GTX260/275 are not mid-range cards, they are high end, the GTS240 isn't competing with them. And while the HD4770 does perform better, it is almost impossible to find due to ATi's inability to supply stock, so I find it hard to say it is "cheaper" when you can't even find it for sale. I almost wonder if it was just a gimmick launch to get all the hype up for being the first with 40nm parts. And even when it was in stock, it was selling for $109+, I think I saw one selling for $99. Still not close to the $85 price tage of the 9800GT. And remember, part of the rebrand is the move to a new reference PCB that is supposed to low costs and hence lower the price to the consumer. If you want to make an argument for a cheaper card, go with the HD4830. At least it can still be found in stock, performs identically to the 9800GT(though will be behind the GTS240 due to the raised clock speeds), and is available for as low as $80.
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#7
Selene
It only hurts people who cant or dont do reserch before they but.
If its OEM who cares, its going to be in a dell or acer or some thing.
The 9800GT is still a good card, you can play any game made today on that card at a nice rez with most settings maxed, I can only think of a few that you cant max, so keeping this card alive, and they revised it some what 55nm 1gig of memory and im sure alittle better power, sounds good to me.
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#8
Selene
by: newtekie1
You know, while the rebrands kind of suck because I'd like to see some new tech hit the market, most poeple reasons for not liking the rebrands suck just as much...

The argument that people are getting tricked into buying the same card over again, and they will disappointed because of it doesn't make any sense, and isn't logical.

If you already have an 8800GT, you already have a high-end card from its generation. If you upgrade to a high-end card to a mid-range card of the next generation, you should know there isn't going to be much difference. This is regardless of if the card is actually a new card or a rebrand.
GTS240/250 is not realy even midrange is it? GTX275 is mid, GTX285 is high and GTX295 is Enthusiast.
So GT lowest and GTS is low/mid? so the 240 and 250 are the higend of the lowend cards?
Yea I guess its confusing, but just remeber 2x GTS250s are about the same as 1x GTX285 and much cheaper.
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newtekie1
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by: Selene
GTS240/250 is not realy even midrange is it? GTX275 is mid, GTX285 is high and GTX295 is Enthusiast.
So GT lowest and GTS is low/mid? so the 240 and 250 are the higend of the lowend cards?
Yea I guess its confusing, but just remeber 2x GTS250s are about the same as 1x GTX285 and much cheaper.
The GTX series is high end, GTS is mid, and GT is low.
People need to realize that just because a card isn't top of the field, that doesn't make it mid-range.
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#10
KainXS
all im gonna do is flash my 9800GT bios with this things bios and upgrade again lol, I did that with my old 8800GT before it died and it actually got a tiny bit faster because the newer bios has fixes in it.

so I'm hoping they release this
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#11
Mussels
Moderprator
these G92 cards are still considerd midrange -at low resolution (19" screen for example), they can run the majority of modern games on high settings.


These will most assuredly end up in OEM's like dell - and i'm glad for that, this is beastly for an OEM system.
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#12
entropy13
9800GT/GTS 240 with OEMs isn't really beastly though when they already have the HD 4850 and GTS 250 as their "usual" options. My OEM PC (from Acer) even has a HD 4870. :)
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#13
Mussels
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by: entropy13
9800GT/GTS 240 with OEMs isn't really beastly though when they already have the HD 4850 and GTS 250 as their "usual" options. My OEM PC (from Acer) even has a HD 4870. :)
true, but this is going to be a lot cheaper. Look at the design, it just screams cheap - yet we know that it has decent performance anyway.
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#14
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
by: KainXS
all im gonna do is flash my 9800GT bios with this things bios and upgrade again lol, I did that with my old 8800GT before it died and it actually got a tiny bit faster because the newer bios has fixes in it.

so I'm hoping they release this
you flashed your card with a bios that came from a re-badged card, then not long after that it died.....how coincidental.
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#15
Mussels
Moderprator
lol.

I flashed a few 8800GT's to 9800GT's and they're all still working fine - some in SLI, to boot.
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#16
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
I suppose its hit or miss, the new bios might contain fixes but then again maybe it has tweaks/voltages/Mhz that the older card cant handle
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Mussels
Moderprator
by: FreedomEclipse
I suppose its hit or miss, the new bios might contain fixes but then again maybe it has tweaks/voltages/Mhz that the older card cant handle
wont know til its tested, with the GTS 240.

With 8800GT and 9800GT, they *were* the same. 65nm 8800GT flashed to 65nm 9800GT = 100% success rate. That was the key, that there was a 65nm variant of the card, and you used its BIOS to flash with (which then made it SLI compatible with 55nm 9800GT's)


With this new card, its possible to flash a 55nm 9800GT to it, but a 65nm 9800GT (or 8800GT) wont be able to flash to it.
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#18
devguy
Hmm, when I recently heard about the GTS 240 coming back, I thought it was going to get the makeover like the GT2xx series. IE: 40nm + DX10.1 (maybe even tri-sli support). How lame that this will be straight up another rename for the same card.
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#19
KainXS
by: FreedomEclipse
you flashed your card with a bios that came from a re-badged card, then not long after that it died.....how coincidental.
nope I oc'd it too high and it fried, i was tryin to get to 850mhz

got to 780 and it died in like 1 min
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#20
entropy13
Well you can configure an XPS with 2 GTS 240's in SLI now.
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#21
tastegw
why does this even make the news :(

that is one ugly card ;)
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#22
KainXS
well, its gonna be dirt cheap probably, its not meant to be bought by consumers anyway

so looks were probably last on the list
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#23
newtekie1
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Most OEM cards look uggly, they don't bother to dress up the heatsink with the fancy stickers to make it look nice...
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#24
DanishDevil
Dude, I just upgraded my 9800 GT to a GTS 240! My computer pwns now and my e-penis is huge!
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#25
erocker
Rebranding not only hurts Nvidia's partners, but the consumer as well. When something gets rebranded, the manufacturer has to change things which costs money (whatever small design changes etc.) This added cost is then passed on to the consumer. Nvidia needs to stop wasting everyone's time and money.
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