Thursday, August 13th 2009

AMD Raises the Performance Bar With Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition

AMD today announced the world's highest clocked quad-core processor for desktop PCs, the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition processor. As an integral part of Dragon platform technology, this new processor features a stock frequency of 3.4 GHz, massive headroom, high-speed DDR3 memory support and AMD OverDrive 3.0 technology to deliver an enthusiast-class performance that fits into value-based budgets.

Since its initial launch in January 2009, Dragon platform technology has provided great performance at a great price. From the only company with unlocked CPUs and backwards compatibility for DDR2 memory, the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition processor helps customers pay less for more, period. Available for a Suggested System Builder Price of $245, users opting for Intel may be paying more for less or equal performance.

With this platform, AMD is combining its fastest processor ever with the massive graphics processing muscle of its most powerful GPUs to enable the following features:
  • Record-setting overclocking capabilities
  • AMD OverDrive 3.0 tuning software
  • High-speed DDR3 memory support
  • Planned future DirectX 11 support for the latest games
  • AMD Black Edition Memory Profiles for custom experiences
  • Cool'n'Quiet 3.0 technology to enable improved efficiency and help keep your PC running cool and quiet
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151 Comments on AMD Raises the Performance Bar With Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition

#1
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: mdm-adph
Only because you have one. :laugh: I personally think my 5000+ that I got for free beats them all!
ARE YOU TELLING ME MY CPU IS A DEMOCRAT?!
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#2
Fx
by: mdm-adph
Only because you have one. :laugh: I personally think my 5000+ that I got for free beats them all!
have you seen if there is a Cash for Clunkers Program for PCs? :laugh:
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#3
mdm-adph
by: TheMailMan78
ARE YOU TELLING ME MY CPU IS A DEMOCRAT?!
As I'm accusing you of relativism, then yes, yes I am. :laugh:
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#4
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: mdm-adph
As I'm accusing you of relativism, then yes, yes I am. :laugh:
I feel like a dumb ass. I had to look up relativism :laugh:
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#5
Millenia
The 965 costs as much as the 955 here in Finland so I figured I might as well get the "better" one :P
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#7
Valdez
by: mtosev
hehe. more then i7's.
Still, a system with a 965 processor eating less than a i7 920 system with the same components (except mainboard ofcourse) :)

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#8
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
That difference is negligible.
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#9
newtekie1
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And does the 965 even match the 920's performance?

What do the numbers look like with HT disabled? I bet the 920 still outperforms the 965 and consumes less power...
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#10
erocker
by: newtekie1
And does the 965 even match the 920's performance?

What do the numbers look like with HT disabled? I bet the 920 still outperforms the 965 and consumes less power...
As far as gaming goes, the 965 somewhat beats the 920's performance. With CPU intensive applications (non-gaming) the Core i7 wins. "Win" is a rather lousy word in this case, as the difference really doesn't matter.

Here's a nice article for gaming comparison: http://www.pureoverclock.com/article794.html
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#11
mtosev
I dont think you can OC a lot on the 965. they look clocked to the max. i7's have more headroom then AMD's 9XX cpus.
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#12
AsRock
TPU addict
by: TheMailMan78
The 720 is AMD.
indeed, i mistaken the 7 for a 9 ^^.. WTF......
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#13
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: erocker
As far as gaming goes, the 965 somewhat beats the 920's performance. With CPU intensive applications (non-gaming) the Core i7 wins. "Win" is a rather lousy word in this case, as the difference really doesn't matter.

Here's a nice article for gaming comparison: http://www.pureoverclock.com/article794.html
I've stated this time and time again the 920 can be slower then a PII depending on the application. Unless the application is optimized for more than 4 threads the PII is a better buy. However if the application is in fact multi-threaded the i7 wins hands down.
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#14
newtekie1
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by: TheMailMan78
I've stated this time and time again the 920 can be slower then a PII depending on the application. Unless the application is optimized for more than 4 threads the PII is a better buy. However if the application is in fact multi-threaded the i7 wins hands down.
I think this statement is a pretty obvious one, even back in the Pentium D/Athlon X2 days. The Athlon X2 was slower depending on the application. Of course the PII is better as something thing than the 920. Some applications will favor certain processors more than others, it has always been this way, and will always be this way. That is why you have to look at how the processor perform overall, or specifically what you are using the processor for.

I talk in general terms, when I say the 920 is better than the 965, because overall it is.

When it comes down to it, the difference don't really matter at all, which is why I'm still using a X3370 and haven't moved on to an i7. The upgrade wouldn't make a huge difference, if any at all really. Hell, it is part of the reason my E6600 is still in a system, for gaming it is all you really need right now. In gaming I can't really even tell the difference between my x3370 and the E6600, so I doubt I would be able to tell the difference between a 920, a Q9650, a x3370, or an 965...
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#15
phanbuey
by: erocker
As far as gaming goes, the 965 somewhat beats the 920's performance. With CPU intensive applications (non-gaming) the Core i7 wins. "Win" is a rather lousy word in this case, as the difference really doesn't matter.

Here's a nice article for gaming comparison: http://www.pureoverclock.com/article794.html
yah thats true... the thing that kills the i7 920 in games is the low clock rate... But all things (overclocking) considered a i7 920 is much faster and will shine with more powerful next gen gfx cards/ multicard setups.
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#16
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: newtekie1
I think this statement is a pretty obvious one, even back in the Pentium D/Athlon X2 days. The Athlon X2 was slower depending on the application. Of course the PII is better as something thing than the 920. Some applications will favor certain processors more than others, it has always been this way, and will always be this way. That is why you have to look at how the processor perform overall, or specifically what you are using the processor for.

I talk in general terms, when I say the 920 is better than the 965, because overall it is.

When it comes down to it, the difference don't really matter at all, which is why I'm still using a X3370 and haven't moved on to an i7. The upgrade wouldn't make a huge difference, if any at all really. Hell, it is part of the reason my E6600 is still in a system, for gaming it is all you really need right now. In gaming I can't really even tell the difference between my x3370 and the E6600, so I doubt I would be able to tell the difference between a 920, a Q9650, a x3370, or an 965...
This is true. I was gaming just fine with an x2 4200+ until a few months ago. Its easy to be caught up in the hype of anything your interested in ;)
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#17
1nvisible
by: newtekie1
Good, maybe this will finally bring down the price of the Q9650...
Bought a Q9650 on ebay for $260 not even a week now, loving it.
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#18
newtekie1
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by: TheMailMan78
This is true. I was gaming just fine with an x2 4200+ until a few months ago. Its easy to be caught up in the hype of anything your interested in ;)
I'm still gaming just fine on my X2 4200+:toast: Granted, it really does hold back my HD4890, and it doesn't overclock worth a damn...

My next upgrade will definitely be to a Phenom II, possibly the 910 or 920, if I can hold out that long...it is far to tempting to take the money I have now and just buy an X2 250:banghead:

by: 1nvisible
Bought a Q9650 on ebay for $260 not even a week now, loving it.
My X3370 is basically the same processor, I too love it. I wish I could have gotten the X3380, as it is the fastest 775 quad-core(except for the extreme editions)...but I couldn't afford it, and I didn't think it was worth the $200 price increase over the X3370.
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#19
Polarman
This is AMD's first stock 3.4ghz CPU.

Good if your building a new AM3 rig.
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#20
phanbuey
by: Polarman
This is AMD's first stock 3.4ghz CPU.

Good if your building a new AM3 rig.
yeah but why not save the $$ and get a 955? all you have to do is bump the multi...
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#21
steelkane
AMD or Intel, a Quad core 3Ghz or higher is more then good for any game or app I have.
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#22
aj28
by: phanbuey
yeah but why not save the $$ and get a 955? all you have to do is bump the multi...
The same could be said for most processors of the same series. The difference is binning and guaranteed performance. Not to mention now that the 965 is out, all the 955 SKU going to market are a lower bin. This is pretty much always the case when a company introduces a new chip...
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#23
phanbuey
by: aj28
The same could be said for most processors of the same series. The difference is binning and guaranteed performance. Not to mention now that the 965 is out, all the 955 SKU going to market are a lower bin. This is pretty much always the case when a company introduces a new chip...
that would be true, if the binning made a difference... But these have the same OC ceiling as the 955's and 940's at virtually the same voltage, which is probably a sign that the differences between the bins is minimal, if any. But yeah, ppl will pay more to have a piece of mind...

It just seems exactly like a 955 with a different multi setting set as the default. I know its not, but thats what it seems like as both CPU's are BE's...
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#25
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
The i7 920 system is holding an extra DDR3 module, amirite?
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