Thanks, installing now.

by: [Ion]

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Thanks, installing now.

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is a button. :slap::D

lol someone got bitch slapped:D

"and game settings" <- :laugh:

thanks for the links and the news. I seem to be able to squeeze more performance out of my card every driver release, things get more stable on some new drivers but all of em give better average frames per second. Im currently on the 191.00 works good in all games apart from eh empire total war which i have given up on ever working fine.

It annoys me is that with every new driver Nvidia seems to squeeze some more juice out of its cards while I rarely see that with the Catalyst(but truth be told, I haven't updated the drivers since 9.4).

by: 10TaTioN

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http://tpucdn.com/forums/images/buttons/post_thanks.gif is a button. :slap::D

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I think everyone here needs a visual aid to, uh.. comprehensively and correctly understand the function of said button. It's right down there.

Wow, 34% improvement w/Prototype? Damn gonna have to dl.

by: I see SPY!

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It annoys me is that with every new driver Nvidia seems to squeeze some more juice out of its cards while I rarely see that with the Catalyst(but truth be told, I haven't updated the drivers since 9.4).

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Then you should read Catalyst news too buddy. If you look, you can see it: Performance Enhancements: Catalyst 9.8 * Battleforge DirectX 10/DirectX 10.1 performance improves up to 15-50% in CPU limited settings with the largest gains in CrossfireX configurations. * Company of Heroes DirectX 10 performance improves by up to 10-77% in CPU limited settings. * Crysis DirectX 10 Dual CrossfireX performance improves as much as 10% and Quad CrossfireX performance improves as much as 34% in CPU limited settings. * Crysis Warhead DirectX 10 Dual CrossfireX performance improves as much as 7% and Quad CrossfireX performance improves as much as 69% in CPU limited settings. * Far Cry 2 DirectX 10 Dual CrossfireX performance improves as much as 50% and Quad CrossfireX performance improves as much as 88% in CPU limited settings. * Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. DirectX 10/DirectX 10.1 Dual CrossfireX performance improves up to 40% in CPU limited settings with Quad CrossfireX performance improving up to 60%. * UnigineTropics OpenGL performance improves 5-20% * UnigineTropics DirectX 10 Quad CrossfireX performance improves 5-20% in CPU limited settings. * World in Conflict DirectX 10 performance improves by 5-10%. Performance with 9.7: # Crysis performance at very high quality preset increases by up to 8% on Radeon HD 4800 series # Lost Planet Colonies - performance increases by 7-11% when 8x Anti-Aliasing is used on the HD 4800 series products Performance with 9.6: * Company of Heores – performance gains of up to 25% for the ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, and performance gains of up to 10% for the ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series. * Crysis Warhead – performance gains of up to 11% for ATI CrossFireX configurations. * Crysis – performance gains of up to 13% for ATI CrossFireX configurations. * World in Conflict – performance gains of up to 30% for settings are were previously CPU limited.

by: mlee49

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Wow, 34% improvement w/Prototype? Damn gonna have to dl.

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Thats with AA enabled. Considering Prototype crashes to the desktop for me on Win7 whenever AA is enabled what is a 34% improvement on 0?

by: cool_recep

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Then you should read Catalyst news too buddy. If you look, you can see it: Performance Enhancements: Catalyst 9.8 * Battleforge DirectX 10/DirectX 10.1 performance improves up to 15-50% in CPU limited settings with the largest gains in CrossfireX configurations. * Company of Heroes DirectX 10 performance improves by up to 10-77% in CPU limited settings. * Crysis DirectX 10 Dual CrossfireX performance improves as much as 10% and Quad CrossfireX performance improves as much as 34% in CPU limited settings. * Crysis Warhead DirectX 10 Dual CrossfireX performance improves as much as 7% and Quad CrossfireX performance improves as much as 69% in CPU limited settings. * Far Cry 2 DirectX 10 Dual CrossfireX performance improves as much as 50% and Quad CrossfireX performance improves as much as 88% in CPU limited settings. * Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. DirectX 10/DirectX 10.1 Dual CrossfireX performance improves up to 40% in CPU limited settings with Quad CrossfireX performance improving up to 60%. * UnigineTropics OpenGL performance improves 5-20% * UnigineTropics DirectX 10 Quad CrossfireX performance improves 5-20% in CPU limited settings. * World in Conflict DirectX 10 performance improves by 5-10%. Performance with 9.7: # Crysis performance at very high quality preset increases by up to 8% on Radeon HD 4800 series # Lost Planet Colonies - performance increases by 7-11% when 8x Anti-Aliasing is used on the HD 4800 series products Performance with 9.6: * Company of Heores – performance gains of up to 25% for the ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, and performance gains of up to 10% for the ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series. * Crysis Warhead – performance gains of up to 11% for ATI CrossFireX configurations. * Crysis – performance gains of up to 13% for ATI CrossFireX configurations. * World in Conflict – performance gains of up to 30% for settings are were previously CPU limited.

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What's with your tone, buddy?

Nice improvement for Prototype!! Even my GTX285 has been having a hard time with that game.

So how are these drivers guys? Any crashes? Thinking about DLing these for my 8600 GTS.

Seems like a 19x driver finally for me to upgrade, downloading but will read user opinions before install :)

by: btarunr

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Includes numerous bug fixes, including the following key fix: For graphics cards supporting multiple clock states, 3D clocks correctly return to 2D clocks after exiting a 3D application.

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Cool, this is what people have been waiting for, including me although it rarely happens anymore. This is for GT200 cards (GTX 260/275/280/285/295), why they don't mention it straigh as no other series have 2D clocks. Well now the text is right for GT300 cards too, but in the meantime it confuses people, like the powerstate option that was GT200 only too.

by: OnBoard

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Seems like a 19x driver finally for me to upgrade, downloading but will read user opinions before install :) Cool, this is what people have been waiting for, including me although it rarely happens anymore. This is for GT200 cards (GTX 260/275/280/285/295), why they don't mention it straigh as no other series have 2D clocks. Well now the text is right for GT300 cards too, but in the meantime it confuses people, like the powerstate option that was GT200 only too.

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With a whole 27w difference between 2D clocks and 3D clocks on my GTX285 when its sitting idle, I don't really see why this feature would be a deal breaker on getting better all around drivers...

by: CDdude55

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So how are these drivers guys? Any crashes? Thinking about DLing these for my 8600 GTS.

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Didn't work for me, straight after re-booting following install I kept getting "Host process Rundll32 has stopped working" errors. I kept trying for several hours with every possible combination of un-install methods, using Driver Sweeper, regedit, everything that was suggested to me, no joy. Re-installed 190.62, everything works fine...Some have said it worked for them though, so maybe its some obscure combination of software/hardware on my system:confused:

More ARMA 2 improves please :) That game needs alot of fixing

by: newtekie1

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With a whole 27w difference between 2D clocks and 3D clocks on my GTX285 when its sitting idle, I don't really see why this feature would be a deal breaker on getting better all around drivers...

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Not a deal braker, but maker :) Thanks for the wattage though, seems my 8500GT idling inside to get 2D clocks was power saving after all. Not much but 24/7/365 on it builds up. ----- Here's a 3DMark tests that I run just now. Seems these drivers are only bug fixes and specific games tweaks. No overall performance increase at all, but didn't go down either :) Tested couple 06 game tests with 4xAA as antialiasing improvements were mentioned on many instances. That's not any faster either in general. ASUS GTX 280 602/1296/1107 191.07 PhysX 9.09.0814 C2D E8400 FSB400 3200mhz 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 3DMark06: 14177 (SM2.0: 6525 SM3.0: 7229 cpu: 2844) | 4xAA GT1 51.143 fps, HDR1 65.122 fps Vantage: P13187 (GPU: 10965 CPU: 33644) ASUS GTX 280 602/1296/1107 186.18 PhysX 9.09.0720 C2D E8400 FSB400 3200mhz 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 3DMark06: 14003 (SM2.0: 6468 SM3.0: 7188 cpu: 2775) | 4xAA GT1 51.417 fps, HDR1 64.598 fps Vantage: P13165 (GPU: 10987 CPU: 32489)

Wow, these drivers are horrible. If anything, they have DECREASED the performance of my games, namely GRID since that's really the only game I'm playing right now. Just sitting at the main menu I was getting roughly 60fps when with the older drivers (190.89) it would stay at a constant 75fps. Then during races it would dip all the way down to the middle to lower 30's, where as with the older ones the lowest it would go was the middle 40's. Back to the 190.89's for me!

Stay away from these. These drivers do real funny stuff. 1st the screen will go blank, then once I'm forced to reboot. It will change my HDD Boot Priority. I never had anything thing happen like this before until I installed these drivers.

by: Pings

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Stay away from these. These drivers do real funny stuff. 1st the screen will go blank, then once I'm forced to reboot. It will change my HDD Boot Priority. I never had anything thing happen like this before until I installed these drivers.

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That is not related to these drivers. You have some other issues going on.

Just by way of an experiment I installed a fresh Vista onto my spare HDD, all I did was install the latest chipset drivers, reboot then install these 191.07's. Reboot and got the same constant Rundll32 stopped working errors! I then re-formatted and installed W7 RC, didn't bother with the chipset drivers, just installed 191.07. No errors at all, work fine. Very confused, maybe they conflict with the chipset drivers....W7 they work, Vista they don't,for me. (Both times X64)

by: newtekie1

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That is not related to these drivers. You have some other issues going on.

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Then can you explain why once I uninstalled these driver and went back to my old drivers. Those problems stopped?

by: Pings

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Then can you explain why once I uninstalled these driver and went back to my old drivers. Those problems stopped?

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Well, your drivers have nothing to do with your boot priories. They don't effect your BIOS settings at all. Hence it not being possible. Google the problem or something, because its just not possible for the video cards drivers to be effecting those settings.

Like I said the problem started with the screen going blank. Then other stuff would happen. I still say driver did it. I never had that problem before. Once I installed the new drivers this would happen, anytime I would run a game for more than 5 minutes. This happened 3 times. Once I uninstalled the old driver that was the end of my problem. I've been playing the same games that mad it crash for hours, and nothing happened. I think these drivers caused a OC error. Because Once it would crash I would have a OC error, that's not even real. All I would have to do is boot up my bios and save and quit with out changing a thing. I'm thinking my bios does not like these drivers. I'm gona try updating my bios and reinstalling these to see what happens.