Wednesday, November 18th 2009

NVIDIA Fermi-based GeForce Accelerator Spotted Working

"This puppy here, is Fermi" announced a proud Jen-Hsun Huang, NVIDIA's CEO. The shiny, chrome-decked Tesla GPGPU accelerator that makes use of NVIDIA's Fermi architecture, soon turned out to be a mock-up, aimed solely at announcing the completion of development of the Fermi architecture. It was also strategically timed to coincide with AMD's market launch of the industry's first DirectX 11 compliant graphics cards under the Fermi is significant since it supports the DirectX 11 API. Today ironically, on the occasion of AMD's launch of its "Hemlock" Radeon HD 5970 flagship accelerator, a picture showing a working consumer graphics variant of Fermi working. It is as if to assert that a Fermi derivative is no more the paperweight it was when it was first paraded to the media.

NVIDIA's Fermi GPU architecture is to be implemented in three variants: GF100, GT300, and GT300GL, to drive three of the company's product lines: GeForce, Tesla, and Quadro, respectively. GF100 is of utmost relevance to us. A picture leaked recently to Bright Side of News shows a GeForce accelerator based on GF100 to be working, where it appears to be rendering the Unigine Heaven DirectX 11 benchmark. This early sighting, however, doesn't mean that the product is any closer to its launch. It is still slated for Q1 2010, meaning that it will miss out on the X-Mas shopping season. The GF100 GPU is said to have 512 shader cores, and connects to GDDR5 memory across a 384-bit wide memory interface.
Source: Bright Side of News
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113 Comments on NVIDIA Fermi-based GeForce Accelerator Spotted Working

#76
shevanel
biggest decision you guys need to start thinking about is whether it's going to be your arm or your leg. your choice. this pic means nothing. if it was a video of a bench, then cool. right now it's something to give nvidia campers something to talk about so ATI doesnt steal the entire show...

hype = drama = money.

MTV baby.
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#77
Benetanegia
JizzlerBesides, he might actually be going crazy from days of nVidia vs ATI threads :D
I am. I am actually going crazy by hearing all the nonsense that some people take as hard proof of some of the issues.

Really, if someone is here saying that he is an enthusiast and never had more than one computer powered on at a time, with a switch to change which one is displayed on the monitor, with their old mouse and kb attached to the other PC or saying that he never made a short in the mb in order to power on his testbed, then that is not an enthusiast. Period.

I knew my comment was going to be depreciated and myself was going to be taken as fanboy, because only a fanboy can have an opinion other than "Nvidia sucks and this is obviously fake, because there are no lights where there shouldn't be lights and because a high-grade engineer has more than one PC and there's a second mouse in the other side of the table where we can't see shit about what there is, for all we know there could be another PC there, but it's still fake". These forums work this way after all and they are getting worse by the day. That's why I tried to suggest my point through sarcasm, rather than directly point it out directly. Binge did that, providing more than enough proofs and still got flamed. Ridiculous!! :shadedshu
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#78
PP Mguire
BenetanegiaI am. I am actually going crazy by hearing all the nonsense that some people take as hard proof of some of the issues.

Really, if someone is here saying that he is an enthusiast and never had more than one computer powered on at a time, with a switch to change which one is displayed on the monitor, with their old mouse and kb attached to the other PC or saying that he never made a short in the mb in order to power on his testbed, then that is not an enthusiast. Period.

I knew my comment was going to be depreciated and myself was going to be taken as fanboy, because only a fanboy can have an opinion other than "Nvidia sucks and this is obviously fake, because there are no lights where there shouldn't be lights and because a high-grade engineer has more than one PC and there's a second mouse in the other side of the table where we can't see shit about what there is, for all we know there could be another PC there, but it's still fake". These forums work this way after all and they are getting worse by the day. That's why I tried to suggest my point through sarcasm, rather than directly point it out directly. Binge did that, providing more than enough proofs and still got flamed. Ridiculous!! :shadedshu
Exactly why i dont post about this kinda shit. I let the flamewars bypass me after the AMD/ATI/Quakecon thing.
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#79
pantherx12
BingeWell I don't see proof it's real, but I also don't see proof that it's fake. About there being more than one mouse/keyboard... really? I still hope you're being sarcastic. I'm going to post a pic of my work bench in a bit just to confuse you (since multiple mice are confusing) more.
+1 to this comment.

Could be real or not, either way it doesn't matter as we the public won't be getting our hands on the card til its released anyway.

:laugh:
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#80
amschip
Taking into account a recent fake tesla appearance I would defintely be considering this a fake one. To add more to it consider this: there was this article saying that developer of bullet physics engine was using nvidia cards for development. I would bet my ass on that nvidia not having dx11 card at hand would be using ati one for some kind of testing, comparison etc. That would explain working uengine bench.
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#81
Benetanegia
BingeWell I don't see proof it's real, but I also don't see proof that it's fake. About there being more than one mouse/keyboard... really? I still hope you're being sarcastic. I'm going to post a pic of my work bench in a bit just to confuse you (since multiple mice are confusing) more.
And now that I remember... I'm going to confuse him even further, because I've been actually using more than one mouse in the same PC some years ago. Around 8 years ago I bought this: Logitech Cordless Desktop, because I wanted a cordless kb/mouse so that I could use my PC on my living room's TV too. My main PC is and has always been on my bedroom and living room is around 10 m away from there, I had it connected to the TV with an RF device (far from perfect, I know). I also used to move the kb around when listening to music, using the kb's special keys to navigate songs (eg when shaving in the bathroom). Thing is, surprise, surprise, the mouse sucked for gaming, so I bought a regular mouse for playing (and later a G5) and had the 2 mouses conected at the same time.

EDIT: BTW. Anyone wants REAL proofs?



- "Souncard without wires on it?" -> I can't remember the last time I plugged anything in my sound card:




- "is these wires going to keyboard?", "I can't see any HDD cables plugged in from the reflection", "Do you see any memory here?"


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#82
Steevo
To infinity........and beyond!!!!


Really, untill we hear the good word from Nvidia, this is hearsay, and possibly something some geek came up with. Or it could be real, something a engineer who is probably prohibited from bringing a camera to work used his phone to snap a pic and send it off, and that started this all.


Either way, I don't see anything from Nvidia besides a remake of the MARS 285 and a mention of 1K as the price. So they still have vapor, we still have nothing, and some people will fall hard on the sword if they don't get their shit together.
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#83
imperialreign
Just my thoughts, after seeing that pic . . .

I can't claim one way or the other - one could look at the PCIE connectors on the VGA and claim that if one PSU was powering the card, both cables would come from the same direction . . .

One could look at the small amount of space around the mouse and say there's no enough room for someone to properly operate the mouse . . .

One could look at the screen and say that beacuse the numbers are blurred, it could be a screen saver . . .

One could look at the Audigy on the top shelf, and say that it's an antique test setup, so it couldn't house a modern GPU . . .



Seriously, guys - if the pic is legit, it would've been taken from an engineers workstation . . .

Now - y'all know the kind of clutter we keep our personal rigs and hardware setups in - if you were working around it all day long, swapping components in and out, you know it'd be more of a mess . . .

Regarding the no power/reset cables - the pic doesn't show the lower right headers of the board - so one can't draw conclusions in that aspect, and the reflection on the GPU cooler doesn't show much beyond the chasis fan header.

Regarding the board on the shelf above the VGA - well, there's obviously no power switch on that board, so whatever vid card is installed there probably isn't running ATM . . .

And tll athose cables along the side of the monitor - they could be going to a shelf above the top motherboard . . .

Regarding the keyboard/mouse in the background - there could be another monitor behind the visible one connected to that setup . . . I don't have pixelated x-ray vision, so I can't confirm or deny that theory . . .

<sigh>

Just some thoughts, guys . . .
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#84
Benetanegia
imperialreignNow - y'all know the kind of clutter we keep our personal rigs and hardware setups in - if you were working around it all day long, swapping components in and out, you know it'd be more of a mess . . .
Not making an argument, but I tend to have my desktop clean and if I was to photograph it I would definately clean it a bit, maybe that's just me.

The other side of my room, the one that is not close to the monitor/kb/mouse that's another story. I'm not claiming to be a "clean" person. :laugh: I just like to be free to move around when working/gaming.
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#85
MilkyWay
untill there are proper review samples and release dates take everything with a pinch of salt, its cynical but hell its better than being suckered into false news (note im not suggesting this is false just that there maybe false news out there)

EDIT: to me it looks like there are 2 motherboards, one up top and one bellow, 2 mice so to me i think there are 2 pcs; doesnt mean that both are running because only one monitor is displaying so it could be another system without Fermi running or Fermi running

evidence is inconclusive
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#86
zithe
Misread the title and thought it was a new thread. "Fermi-based Geforce Accelerator Stopped Working"
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#87
El Fiendo
You know, I just realized something.

To everyone who says the second mouse is proof of a second system running the game and that the Fermi card isn't running:

The assumption is made that the second mouse and keyboard seen in the pic are evidence that a second system, seen above the Fermi card, is running the monitor. Many believe the Fermi card isn't actually on. Why would they bother getting a second mouse, lighting it up and placing it beside an 'off' motherboard if they already had a mouse, lit up and everything that would be placed right in the same place as the first one? The logic that they would have to follow for the 'second mouse argument' to be true is completely screwy.

Therefore second mouse (and keyboard if you look) -> second, separate workstation (including its own monitor, obscured by the monitor visible. Not second mouse -> different computer, same workstation + fake.

Interestingly what it all boils down to is shoddy marketing practices though.
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#88
Edito
No metter how well ATI cards perform the way nvidia build the things its just different the design the special touches the colors i like ATi but nvidia blows me away every time and will not be different with the GT300 i think...
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#89
imperialreign
BenetanegiaNot making an argument, but I tend to have my desktop clean and if I was to photograph it I would definately clean it a bit, maybe that's just me.

The other side of my room, the one that is not close to the monitor/kb/mouse that's another story. I'm not claiming to be a "clean" person. :laugh: I just like to be free to move around when working/gaming.
I can agree with that - big reason why I've never posted any pics of my desk, or my current rig status . . . it looks horrible :p

But, I'm sure the majority of us here fall into the "hit-by-a-tornado" category . . . just trying to point out that an engineer's workstation is going to look a mess with a bunch of stuff all over . . . seems a lot of people here expect a "leaked" hardware pic to look like it came straight from the lab instead of a workstation :laugh:
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#90
PP Mguire
WHy would they be using Dell monitors?
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#91
AsRock
TPU addict
The more and more i look at this pic it looks like a photoshop job as the right side of it don't even look like it should be there.
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#92
Unregistered
PP MguireWHy would they be using Dell monitors?
Dell make good monitors, why wouldnt they ? :slap: :laugh:
#93
imperialreign
PP MguireWHy would they be using Dell monitors?
Probably cheaper than using Samsung . . . besides, with the overhead that's gone into the long R&D process of Fermi, 1337-LCD is not on the priorities list :p
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#94
shevanel
PP MguireWHy would they be using Dell monitors?
you'd lose an appendage if you tried to take my Dell monitor. best monitor ive ever owned.
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#95
Benetanegia
That Dell monitor is about the best 24" consumer LCD you can (could) get...
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#96
dr emulator (madmax)
ColdAsIceI guess they dont need it but there is no "power on" "reset" cables atached to mainboard.
1 thanks is given for observation the rest of you deserve to
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#97
idx
Save your words ATI fans , nVidia fans. without any doubt if the specifications of the new NV100 GPU - "GF100" that we heard about it is true , then all of us we know that this GPU or "CpGPU" will be the end of ATI . with the specifications that we heard about.. it can easily hit the Super computer level in the performance, if what nVidia saying is true then this Chip can run as CPU,GPU and even as GPGPU on your desktop PC. I really want to see this chip running on real test.
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#98
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Well, 6+8 when AMD is 6+6 is the typical big problem=big hammer solution NVIDIA favors (larger dies instead of smaller, more efficient dies). Other than that, nothing really stands out.
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#99
dr emulator (madmax)
well as i know now 6+8 = 2 more grounds that's it there's no more current available just 2 grounds, which in my experience = no big deal, now if the extra 2 pins were +12volts and ground respective, i could see why they where used but not as they are at the moment here's a little link to a site i used the other week enjoy :)
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#100
Hayder_Master
if there is GT300 right now why show as a sneaky picture
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