Monday, December 14th 2009

NVIDIA Pitches GeForce GTX 300 Series to Clinch Performance Crown

NVIDIA's latest DirectX 11 compliant GPU architecture, codenamed "Fermi," is getting its first consumer graphics (desktop) implementation in the form of the GeForce GTX 300 series. The nomenclature turned from being obvious to clear, with a set of company slides being leaked to the media, carrying the GeForce GTX 300 series names for the two products expected to come out first: GeForce GTX 380, and GeForce GTX 360. The three slides in public domain as of now cover three specific game benchmarks, where the two graphics cards are pitted against AMD's Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5970, being part of the company's internal tests.

Tests include Resident Evil 5 (HQ settings, 1920x1200, 8x AA, DX10), STALKER Clear Sky (Extreme quality, No AA, 1920 x 1200, DX10), and Far Cry 2 (Ultra High Quality, 1920x1200, 8x AA, DX10). Other GPUs include GeForce GTX 295 and GTX 285 for reference, just so you know how NVIDIA is pitting the two against the Radeon HD 5000 GPUs, given that the figures are already out. With all the three tests, GTX 380 emerged on top, with GTX 360 performing close to the HD 5970. A point to note, however, is that the tests were run at 1920 x 1200, and tests have shown that the higher-end HD 5000 series GPUs, particularly the HD 5970, is made for resolutions higher than 1920 x 1200. AA was also disabled in STALKER Clear Sky. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 300 will be out in Q1 2010.

Update (12/15): NVIDIA’s Director of Public Relations EMEAI told us that these slides are fake, but also "when it's ready it's going to be awesome".

Source: Guru3D
Add your own comment

189 Comments on NVIDIA Pitches GeForce GTX 300 Series to Clinch Performance Crown

#1
KainXS
look how fast the chrome is zomg
Posted on Reply
#2
Mussels
Moderprator



breaking news! etch-a-sketch faster than GTX300!
Posted on Reply
#3
mdm-adph
This is really sad -- everyone knows the G300 is going to be likely a bit faster than the R800; there was no reason to even make these fake graphs. :wtf: It seems like someone was just wanting to try and cut into ATI's Christmas season sales or something.
Posted on Reply
#4
halfwaythere
Whats really sad is respectable sites published this crap. I guess nowadays you would do just about anything for a few clicks.
Posted on Reply
#5
Selene
good stuff, Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas ATI.
Posted on Reply
#6
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
sick to the max.

I want the etch-a-sketch, larrabee, GTX380 and 5970 so I can hug them all and treat them as my children.
Posted on Reply
#7
ArmoredCavalry
by: Mussels
http://img.techpowerup.org/091214/Capture294.jpg


breaking news! etch-a-sketch faster than GTX300!
I lol'ed

by: mdm-adph
This is really sad -- everyone knows the G300 is going to be likely a bit faster than the R800; there was no reason to even make these fake graphs. :wtf: It seems like someone was just wanting to try and cut into ATI's Christmas season sales or something.
Yeah, you would hope that with Nvidia taking all this time their next generation gpu's would be quite a bit faster than the gtx200's, which means you would have higher performance than the hd5k's.... (at least the 5870)

Question is where the heck are they... :laugh:
Posted on Reply
#8
TheMailMan78
Big Member
Ok one thing no one is talking about here is DX11. All the games that they have shown are DX10. 100% of games currently being developed using DX11 are being done with ATI cards. I think we are going to see a lot of Nvidia people crying foul when the dust clears. Much like ATI people cry foul when they see "TWIMTBP" logo.
Posted on Reply
#9
shevanel
yeah, the only thing that sucks about owning this ATi card is that when I fired up BATMAN AA everything was the same as when I had a GTx275 but I couldn't kick the paper on the floor. SAD
Posted on Reply
#10
mdm-adph
by: TheMailMan78
Ok one thing no one is talking about here is DX11. All the games that they have shown are DX10. 100% of games currently being developed using DX11 are being done with ATI cards. I think we are going to see a lot of Nvidia people crying foul when the dust clears. Much like ATI people cry foul when they see "TWIMTBP" logo.
I don't see why -- DX11 is an open implementation. All Nvidia needs to do to take advantage of any advancements in that area is release a DX11 card.

TWIMTBP-based tweaking benefits Nvidia cards and Nvidia cards only. :P
Posted on Reply
#11
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: mdm-adph
I don't see why -- DX11 is an open implementation. All Nvidia needs to do to take advantage of any advancements in that area is release a DX11 card.

TWIMTBP-based tweaking benefits Nvidia cards and Nvidia cards only. :P
DX11 games will be optimized for ATI cards and drivers for a long time to come. Much like TWIMTBP. I'm telling you people are going to start crying foul.
Posted on Reply
#12
animal007uk
after reading this i think im going to by a c64 lol, tape in load up game on.

but seriously as long as my games run more than 30fps and im happy with how the game looks then it don't matter who has the fastest card out there.

would like to see the price of this nvidia card tho not that im going to buy one.
Posted on Reply
#13
karlotta
by: TheMailMan78
Ok one thing no one is talking about here is DX11. All the games that they have shown are DX10. 100% of games currently being developed using DX11 are being done with ATI cards. I think we are going to see a lot of Nvidia people crying foul when the dust clears. Much like ATI people cry foul when they see "TWIMTBP" logo.
+1, and if the "PR" graphs are right that is FAIL for NVDA... No AA and only a smidgen above the 5970....PR from nvda.... that is always fail.
Posted on Reply
#14
Benetanegia
by: laszlo
i zoom it at max ....nothing... take the posted picture not the uploaded:)
There's absolutely no artifacts in Bta's pictures.

Besides those artifacts in Amok's augmented pictures are jpg artifacts. Open up any small jpg file with letters and you will find those artifacts. On png (like bta's) on the other hand...

And I'm not saying they are not fake btw, we don't know. But are not fake in the sense Amok is trying to demostrate.

Sorry Amok, you fail.
Posted on Reply
#15
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: Benetanegia
There's absolutely no artifacts in Bta's pictures.

Besides those artifacts in Amok's augmented pictures are jpg artifacts. Open up any small jpg file with letters and you will find those artifacts. On png (like bta's) on the other hand...

And I'm not saying they are not fake btw, we don't know. But are not fake in the sense Amok is trying to demostrate.

Sorry Amok, you fail.
:laugh: Even if there were artifacts that would prove nothing. I can add and remove them all day long.

Edit: Bta gets his news from all over but usually quotes only one source. Not to sound like a brown noser but the man does his homework. If these are in fact fake I would be VERY surprised.
Posted on Reply
#16
ArmoredCavalry
by: TheMailMan78
DX11 games will be optimized for ATI cards and drivers for a long time to come. Much like TWIMTBP. I'm telling you people are going to start crying foul.
All I know is that Dirt2 runs in DX11 w/ all max settings, and is super smooth except in one area (China).

Adjusting graphics doesn't change the slight stutter, as it is the same with 8xAA and no AA...

Maybe somone didn't get to testing that area? (I think its the last to get unlocked...) :laugh:
Posted on Reply
#17
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: ArmoredCavalry
All I know is that Dirt2 runs in DX11 w/ all max settings, and is super smooth except in one area (China).

Adjusting graphics doesn't change the slight stutter, as it is the same with 8xAA and no AA...

Maybe somone didn't get to testing that area? (I think its the last to get unlocked...) :laugh:
I learned one trick that makes the game fly without effecting the graphics. Set everything to Ultra except the car refections. Set those to high. The difference is 30+ fps! Honestly I cant tell the difference ether between high and ultra on that setting.
Posted on Reply
#18
ArmoredCavalry
by: TheMailMan78
I learned one trick that makes the game fly without effecting the graphics. Set everything to Ultra except the car refections. Set those to high. The difference is 30+ fps! Honestly I cant tell the difference ether between high and ultra on that setting.
Ah nice, yah the same thing happened with very high vs Ultra shadows in Far Cry 2 w/ hd 4870...

I'll be sure to try that out, thanks. :D
Posted on Reply
#19
shevanel
i run it all on high and everything on ultra that has the option and no issues here. looks great, runs better.
Posted on Reply
#20
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
by: sapetto
Here is an example
http://i25.tinypic.com/2emg9zs.jpg
Sir, the 5870 does perform better than the 295 in those examples. Still the 295 beats the 5870 in a lot of different titles.

I read that BSoN thread on the slides, and I still don't see a source for any of this becoming clear. Guru said this was to be taken with a big grain of salt.
Posted on Reply
#21
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Bit-tech Clear Sky benchmark...





"Extreme Quality Setting" vs "High Detail"

Unknown AF compared to 16x AF.


It is pretty clear that NVIDIA used average FPS. At the same time, we can't know for certain if they even ran the same benchmark routine.

All that shows is that the 5870 and GTX 295 should match in performance but NVIDIA shows the GTX 295 being faster in their benchmark.


My conclusion: inconclusive.
Posted on Reply
#22
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
It'll be like this until some ridiculously short time before they go on sale or as they are on sale. Boy, waiting is the name of the game :ohwell:
Posted on Reply
#23
..'Ant'..
I bet you that the prices for these new nvidia cards will be so expensive and then ATI will lower the prices.
Posted on Reply
#25
@RaXxaa@
If its even 10 fps higer the GTX380 then we are looking at thousands of over priced dollars on it for just 10 fps
Posted on Reply
Add your own comment