Wednesday, January 20th 2010

TSMC Claims 40 nm Yield Issues Resolved

TSMC, one of the world's major semiconductor foundries, said that it has resolved all issues pertaining to proper yields of chips built on the 40 nanometre node. During a company event on the 19th, Mark Liu, Senior VP of Operations, said that the quality of production on the 40 nm node is almost on par with the 65 nm one. Liu stated that the chamber matching problems that had impacted yield rates for the company's 40nm node have been resolved.

TSMC caters to graphics processor giants NVIDIA and AMD, with both having designs of 40 nm performance graphics processors with multi-billion transistor counts. AMD has been selling 40 nm GPUs made by TSMC since its previous generation ATI Radeon HD 4770, it currently makes all its Radeon HD 5000 series GPUs on the node. NVIDIA is poised to release its first billion transistor 40 nm GPU, the GF100, in its consumer GeForce brand later this quarter.

In addition to this, TSMC has just finished building a new factory at the Hsinchu Science Park (HSP), Taiwan, part of its Fab 12. The new facility will be able to commence volume production of 28 nm products as early as by Q3 2010.Source: DigiTimes
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22 Comments on TSMC Claims 40 nm Yield Issues Resolved

#1
pantherx12
Good news for everyone!

Competitive pricing will result I hope.

If this is true that is : [
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#2
xenos
In addition to this, TSMC has just finished building a new factory at the Hsinchu Science Park (HSP), Taiwan, part of its Fab 12. The new facility will be able to commence volume production of 28 nm products as early as by Q3 2010
Hello ATI Radeon 6000 series :rockout:
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#3
Yellow&Nerdy?
28nm production this year? Sounds nice. Maybe in Q4 2011 or Q1 2012 we'll have a new generation of GPUs :nutkick:

If the yield issues are really solved, then AMD should be able to ship as much chips as the demands are. That should drop the prices a little. I'm atleast waiting for Nvidias "Fermi". Not because I'm a fanboy, but because I'm interested in seeing what the Fermi can do. And if it isn't any good, the AMD cards will go down in price so I can buy one of those :D
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#4
pantherx12
by: Yellow&Nerdy?
And if it isn't any good, the AMD cards will go down in price so I can buy one of those :D
Quite the opposite, if the fermi cards are shite then ATI can charge what ever they please !

No competition.

What you want is both companies having epic products so then they compete with one an other and thus have to lower prices in order to entice customers :D
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#5
Flyordie
by: xenos
Hello ATI Radeon 6000 series :rockout:
umm... GLOBALFOUNDRIES will be 28nm by June 2010. :- Whenever that is... I would think AMD/ATI would go with the cheaper of the 2 manufacturers.

A 28nm SOI HD6870 would be wickedly cool running and have good clocks.
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#6
kid41212003
TSMC did this in purpose. I'm sure they already fixed this quite awhile back, they just didn't want to make alot of AMD cards yet...

Shady business under the table with NVIDIA :laugh:.

Nah, just kidding..
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#7
pantherx12
Arnt you guys getting a little ahead of yourself? The 5 series cards have barely been out for long :laugh:
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#8
xenos
I was reading reports they could be 28/32nm and maybe not here until Q1 2011, thats been blown out the water anyway :-D
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#9
gnesterenko
by: kid41212003
TSMC did this in purpose. I'm sure they already fixed this quite awhile back, they just didn't want to make alot of AMD cards yet...

Shady business under the table with NVIDIA :laugh:.

Nah, just kidding..
You know, what the recent Intel revelations, I thought the very same thing when I heard this. Like oh, nVidia comes out just earlier this week saying, hey, were going into production with Fermi on 40nm, and a few days later, miracle! 40nm process fixed. Very interesting coincidence that is. Add to this that nVidia is pretty much in the same place Intel was at times of alleged misconduct (used to be great, but being kicked around by competitor in terms of price and performance, so cut some deals with your distributors). The only difference I see is that in this case they would theoretically go after the supplier, basically stifling the competitions supply so that you could catch up with your own product. I'm sure Fermi will be good - nVidia knows this, they just couldn't get production runnin in time, so they could have went to TMSC and said ey, either gimp the production process or we'll have someone else fab our chips.

You read it here first!

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#10
Yellow&Nerdy?
by: pantherx12
Quite the opposite, if the fermi cards are shite then ATI can charge what ever they please !

No competition.

What you want is both companies having epic products so then they compete with one an other and thus have to lower prices in order to entice customers :D
You're right. I mean though if the Fermi cards are extremely hot, or are overpriced but don't offer a remarkable performance boost. Of course it shouldn't be like that, because Nvidia has delayed the launch for so long, so they should have all the problems solved. Guess we'll have to wait and see. :confused:
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#11
HossHuge
I gotta get down there and see if any TSMC empolyees want some English lessons. I could give them a good rate for some inside info.

That would be really, really good!
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#12
pantherx12
by: HossHuge
I gotta get down there and see if any TSMC empolyees want some English lessons. I could give them a good rate for some inside info.

That would be really, really good!
Stop talking, go do it now :laugh:
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#13
Imsochobo
by: Flyordie
umm... GLOBALFOUNDRIES will be 28nm by June 2010. :- Whenever that is... I would think AMD/ATI would go with the cheaper of the 2 manufacturers.

A 28nm SOI HD6870 would be wickedly cool running and have good clocks.
AMD will go for global foundries, since they own about 50% of the company.
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#14
DRDNA
Hopefully this will give the vendors incentive enough to actually build more HD 5970's !!!!:toast::twitch:
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#15
extrasalty
So now nVidia can blame no one but themselves.
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#16
eidairaman1
TBH TSMC isnt what they used to be, time for AMD to move their Fabs to GloFo/ATIC.
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#17
Mussels
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by: pantherx12
Good news for everyone!
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#18
AsRock
TPU addict
Sounds like good news for them both :).
In addition to this, TSMC has just finished building a new factory at the Hsinchu Science Park (HSP), Taiwan, part of its Fab 12. The new facility will be able to commence volume production of 28 nm products as early as by Q3 2010
HOLLY CRAP... Thats fast cannot wait till next year :) :P.
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[H]@RD5TUFF
by: pantherx12
Good news for everyone!

Competitive pricing will result I hope.

If this is true that is : [
Just in time for March!

Commence the price wars! Consumers rejoice!:rockout:

*Begins doing the sprikler and the dice roll*
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#20
Weer
by: pantherx12
Quite the opposite, if the fermi cards are shite then ATI can charge what ever they please !

No competition.

What you want is both companies having epic products so then they compete with one an other and thus have to lower prices in order to entice customers :D
Yes, but then I go crazy trying to decide whether to get the 7900 GTX or the X1900 XT.

NOT AGAIN!

Thankfully, it probably won't happen again. Fermi will beat 5870 and lose to 5970. But the real kicker will be if Fermi beats 5970 in certain ways. I know I'm getting Fermi anyway.. for folding.
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