Thursday, January 28th 2010

Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

AMD's upcoming six-core desktop processor, codenamed "Thuban" is on course for a May 2010, suggests a report. The series is likely to receive the brand name Phenom II X6. There are four models planned for release within Q2, 2010. The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Istanbul core, in the socket AM3 package, supporting dual-channel DDR3 memory. It is a monolithic multi-core design with six x86-64 cores, each with 128 KB of L1, 512 KB of L2 cache, and a 6 MB L3 cache shared between the six cores. Just as with K10 dual, triple, and quad core processors where AMD used a HyperTransport interface clock speed of 1800 MHz (3600 MT/s), or 2000 MHz (4000 MT/s), the new processor will take advantage of HyperTransport 3.x interface, with a HT speed of 2400 MHz (4800 MT/s). Thuban will be built on GlobalFoundaries' 45 nm node.

The table below lists out details of the four planned models. The model number of the top part isn't known. Most likely it is a Black Edition part, which comes with an unlocked BClk multiplier. It operates at 2.80 GHz, with a TDP of 140W. A step below is the Phenom II X6 1075T, which has an expected TDP of 125W, the 1055T is a notch below, and 1035T being the cheapest part. The exact clock speeds of the latter three models isn't known as yet. A month ahead of releasing these chips, AMD will announce the AMD 8-series chipset platform, led by 890FX (high-end, best for CrossFireX), 890GX (performance integrated graphics with CrossFire support). The AMD SB800 series southbridge chips will feature native support for SATA 6 Gb/s. Its on-die SATA controller gives out six SATA ports complete with RAID support. Some existing AM3 motherboards based on 7-series chipsets may also support Phenom II X6 with a BIOS update.


Source: OCWorkbench
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277 Comments on Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

#1
lism
Considering the TDP values the lower models will be around 2.7GHz down to 2.5/2.4GHz. From what i dont understand yet will these chips compete against the i7 of intel? Without having software being optimized for multi-core (rendering) it will be really hard to scale with 6 cores instead of 2 for example.
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#2
xaira
2.8 GHZ @ 140w, not bad, i expected alot worse, well done amd. Maybe you guys can crank out an Athlon II X6 for <$150 just 4 guys like me.
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#3
Thrawn
"The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Shanghai core..."

Did you mean Istanbul instead of Shanghai?
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: Thrawn
"The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Shanghai core..."

Did you mean Istanbul instead of Shanghai?
Woops, thanks.
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#5
wahdangun
hmmm just 6 mb l3 cache? and where the hell is quad channel memory?
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#6
pantherx12
by: lism
Considering the TDP values the lower models will be around 2.7GHz down to 2.5/2.4GHz. From what i dont understand yet will these chips compete against the i7 of intel? Without having software being optimized for multi-core (rendering) it will be really hard to scale with 6 cores instead of 2 for example.
These are great chips for people who use editing programs of any kind mind you, it be a while til there handy for desktop consumers, but even then, running a few games at once is always a laugh :laugh:


Can't wait, may go back to AMD if the price is right.
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#7
pantherx12
by: wahdangun
hmmm just 6 mb l3 cache? and where the hell is quad channel memory?
Havnig a 12mb cache has less then a 12% improvement or something insane and rubbish, so its a waste of space, less cache means potentially better processing parts of the chip :D

As for quad channel, I suspect that won't be here til bull dozer is out.
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#8
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: wahdangun
hmmm just 6 mb l3 cache? and where the hell is quad channel memory?
That's Magny-Corus, has 12 cores, 10 MB L3, and quad-channel DDR3. The Opteron implementation itself is far away.
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#9
HalfAHertz
Why did it take them so long? Istanbul has been around for over half an year on the server market, correct?
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#10
Zubasa
by: HalfAHertz
Why did it take them so long? Istanbul has been around for over half an year on the server market, correct?
I guess they need to work out higher clocks at that 140W TDP ;)
Afterall the Istanbuls aren't really OC friendly, and I believe they are clock quite a bit lower also?
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#11
filip007
Why not 32nm, this is just Deneb with two more cores.
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#12
pantherx12
by: filip007
Why not 32nm, this is just Deneb with two more cores.
And what's wrong with that?
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#13
xaira
as of now, it appears intel is the only company capable of 32nm production, and they aint sharing, GF 32nm shud b up and running l8r this year or early next year
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#14
pantherx12
Do Intel actually have any 32nm processors out yet?

Out of the loop with things as I've been focusing on stuff in RL.
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#15
Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
These chips may make some very good crunchers. I'll be holding on to my AM3 board just for this.
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Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
by: tonyd223
What? No DDR2 support?
Of course not. Architecture is moving forward, not backward.
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#20
HalfAHertz
by: Zubasa
I guess they need to work out higher clocks at that 140W TDP ;)
Afterall the Istanbuls aren't really OC friendly, and I believe they are clock quite a bit lower also?
The 2,6Ghz Istanbul based Operton 2435 has a TDP of 125W and has been around for > 7 months. It is taking them over an year just to add DDR3 support? :o Oh my I don't want to think how late Bulldozer will be if this is true.
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#21
tonyd223
by: Paulieg
Of course not. Architecture is moving forward, not backward.
but me sat here with 8Gb of DDR2... boo hoo - gonna have to buy DDR3 now
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#22
xaira
well i much prefer 2 more cores over ddr2 support, ddr2 prices have skyrocketed rescently, sell them those 8gb, u might even get them sold for a profit
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#23
(FIH) The Don
now i gotta go get a new board, will do when new 890X boards come out:laugh:
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#24
A Cheese Danish
by: btarunr
That's Magny-Corus, has 12 cores, 10 MB L3, and quad-channel DDR3. The Opteron implementation itself is far away.
Can't wait for those!!!!

However, these Phenoms will do :cool:
Very nice AMD!
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#25
HalfAHertz
The launch seems to match Intel's launch of the i7 980X, which is kinda worrying. This thing will barely compete with the current i7 lineup, not to mention Intel's six-core.

Something else that gets me worried about the release date, being close to Intel's is that they may have some sort of under the table agreement for that. It hasn't been that long since their "settlement"
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