Friday, March 19th 2010

GeForce GTX 400 Series Clock Speeds and Other Details Surface

Exactly a week ahead of releasing its GeForce GTX 400 series accelerators, NVIDIA held meetings with the press discussing the company's newest technologies, including GeForce GTX 400 series. Some lesser known details about the GeForce GTX 480 and GeForce GTX 470 surfaced, among more known and established ones. To begin with, the GeForce GTX 480 is confirmed to have a CUDA core (shader core) count of 480. The GF100 core operates at 700 MHz, its shader domain at 1401 MHz, and the memory operates at 924 MHz (actual, 1848 MHz DDR, 3700 MHz effective). With a GDDR5 memory bus width of 384-bit, the effective memory bandwidth would be 173.4 GB/s.

The GeForce GTX 470, on the other hand, has 448 CUDA cores, clock speeds of 607 MHz core, 1215 MHz shader domain, and 837 MHz memory (actual, 1674 MHz DDR, 3348 MHz effective). With a GDDR5 memory bus width of 320-bit, the effective memory bandwidth would be 130.7 GB/s. While the GTX 480 has a board power of 295W, the GTX 470 has a board power of 225W. Another piece of information the source reveals is that internal testing by NVIDIA showed that the performance level to expect from the GeForce GTX 470 should be 5-10% higher than that of the ATI Radeon HD 5850. The GeForce GTX 480 should be expected to be just that much faster than the ATI Radeon HD 5870. It is also expected that the target price of the GeForce GTX 480 should be typically US $499, while the GTX 470 should go typically for US $349. Detailed reviews of the two should be up by this time, next week.Source: VR-Zone
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82 Comments on GeForce GTX 400 Series Clock Speeds and Other Details Surface

#1
shevanel
price/performance = -1

price will probably be $450 and sold out

unless these are OC'n monsters :roll:

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#2
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
Good. Prices for ATI cards will drop and I'll CF 5850s.
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#3
Phxprovost
Xtreme Refugee
by: shevanel

unless these are OC'n monsters :roll:
i doubt that some how, if there was any extra stable performance that could be pulled out of im pretty sure nvidia would take it and run with it :toast:
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#4
shevanel
its kind of dissapointing from an enthusiast point of view. all this waiting and all they provide is 5%.. sometimes 10% but with higher cost.. not worth it.

it'd be nice if after all this time they released something that makes you wanna sell your 5870 for $275 just to make the move back to Nv.

this is not the case this time.

card will prolly be good for cuda aps + gaming but the price isnt justifiable.

"hey screw that red sports car, its 6 months old, buy this new green one.. it might cost more but it goes 5mph faster"

yeah good luck.
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#5
punani
well, there it is.. let the gtx 580 speculation begin :P

I bet these cards pack greater firepower if we could just keep the heat down..
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#6
Loosenut
by: shevanel
its kind of dissapointing from an enthusiast point of view. all this waiting and all they provide is 5%.. sometimes 10% but with higher cost.. not worth it.

it'd be nice if after all this time they released something that makes you wanna sell your 5870 for $275 just to make the move back to Nv.

this is not the case this time.

card will prolly be good for cuda aps + gaming but the price isnt justifiable.

"hey screw that red sports car, its 6 months old, buy this new green one.. it might cost more but it goes 5mph faster"

yeah good luck.
:toast: Lolll, love the analogy :laugh:

by: punani
well, there it is.. let the gtx 580 speculation begin :P

I bet these cards pack greater firepower if we could just keep the heat down..
Possible if a phase unit comes with the card...
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#7
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
AMD won't need to cut its prices. At these performance/$, the HD 5870 is comfortable at $400, and HD 5850 at $300.
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#8
Loosenut
by: btarunr
AMD won't need to cut its prices. At these performance/$, the HD 5870 is comfortable at $400, and HD 5850 at $300.
And I was hoping to CF a couple of 5850s... :banghead: :cry:
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#9
afw
5%-10% performance ... that sucks :wtf: ... just think ... if 5870s getting 50fps then the 480 will get 53-55fps .... i was hoping it would be more like 20%-25% ... still waiting for honest reviews ... :banghead:

EDIT: i think a 5870 @ 950/1300 will surely match the GTX480
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#10
DirectorC
by: shevanel
"hey screw that red sports car, its 6 months old, buy this new green one.. it might cost more but it goes 5mph faster"

yeah good luck.
Well, the thing is that some of us want a better driver with our car than the one that comes with the red one. The red team's driver is kind of drunk, changes all the time, bumps into stuff and sometimes crashes. The green team's driver is a bit more experienced and stable, shows up sober every day and does the job right.
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#11
crow1001
5870 clocks like a biatch so it will beat a stock 480, clocking on the 480 will probably be very poor going by the very low default clock speeds and high power usage so I doubt it could even match a max clocked 5870. Looks like Nvidia is set for an epic fail.

ATI drivers are great at the moment, and the 10.3s bring some massive performance increase to the 5000 cards,whilst Nvidias have gone down hill dramatically, burnt out GPU's anyone..muhahaha..
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#12
shevanel
by: DirectorC
Well, the thing is that some of us want a better driver with our car than the one that comes with the red one. The red team's driver is kind of drunk, changes all the time, bumps into stuff and sometimes crashes. The green team's driver is a bit more experienced and stable, shows up sober every day and does the job right.
lol so true other than the bold
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#13
laszlo
nvidia launch almost fiasco
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#14
DirectorC
by: crow1001
whilst Nvidias have gone down hill dramatically, burnt out GPU's anyone..muhahaha..
REALLY?

I mean, come on...
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#15
DaC
Oh boy.... after all it would have been better to have bought HD 5850 or 5770 on their lunch date.... no competition for almost a year....
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#16
bpgt64
by: btarunr
AMD won't need to cut its prices. At these performance/$, the HD 5870 is comfortable at $400, and HD 5850 at $300.
Yea, but AMD would do it just to cut into Nvidia's profits to begin with. I mean the HD 5 Series is fully developed, they have to be reducing the cost of production by now...Time to kick Nvidia in the balls while there down.

2g HD 5850 5870 5890 anyone?
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#17
HalfAHertz
Wow, so even tho they have a much wider bus, the bandwidth isn't much bigger than that on the red side. Interesting. The increase is almost insignificant compared to the GTX200 series too...
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#18
air_ii
by: DirectorC
Well, the thing is that some of us want a better driver with our car than the one that comes with the red one. The red team's driver is kind of drunk, changes all the time, bumps into stuff and sometimes crashes. The green team's driver is a bit more experienced and stable, shows up sober every day and does the job right.
Is it really you talking or is it just a popular (yet not entirely true) statement out in the wild?

I must say I haven't had any problem with either ATI's or NV's drivers in the last 2 years or so...
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#19
DirectorC
Well when I used my 5770 I had quirky things happen. Sometimes there was this mesh-like look to some elements in games. My FPS in COD4 would drop drastically under heavy load (explosions and smoke) like I was using my old 8600. And this only happened once, but a game crashed out and went to a plain blue screen like the Windows desktop without wallpaper. It was a weird experience. Mostly OK, but definitely unstable. And CCC is ugly/non-intuitive.
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#20
Thrackan
by: air_ii
Is it really you talking or is it just a popular (yet not entirely true) statement out in the wild?

I must say I haven't had any problem with either ATI's or NV's drivers in the last 2 years or so...
I've had problems, GSOD anyone?

But I have zero experience with modern day nvidia drivers, so I can't comment on them except for the overheating problems happening recently.

To add to the sports car analogy, I do like to mention that the new green car, that goes 5mph faster, also guzzles a lot more fuel, and has a large and heavy engine under the hood :)
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#21
shevanel
GSOd is a easy fix. My only drivers issues have been with flickers multi monitor setups and memory clocks
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#22
DarthCyclonis
225 and 295 watts? I wonder if Nvidia is going to include a hot plate that I can plug into the side of the cards heatsink and cook eggs on?

These cards cost to much are to hot and draw way to much power compared to the ATI alternative. From this report I believe the 480 is going to draw more power then the dual GPU 5970.
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#23
Flyordie
by: Thrackan
I've had problems, GSOD anyone?

But I have zero experience with modern day nvidia drivers, so I can't comment on them except for the overheating problems happening recently.

To add to the sports car analogy, I do like to mention that the new green car, that goes 5mph faster, also guzzles a lot more fuel, and has a large and heavy engine under the hood :)
lol, I fixed the GSOD issue long ago... I just modded the driver to include a small delay in the power play clocks.

:-)
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#24
KainXS
nope not believing it,

if this is true the GTX480 is gonna be at least 20% faster than the GTX470 if its not bottle-necked by memory.
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#25
Thrackan
by: Flyordie
lol, I fixed the GSOD issue long ago... I just modded the driver to include a small delay in the power play clocks.

:-)
Now he tells me!:eek:

And of course you shared this ingenious fix with the rest of the world?
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