Wednesday, May 19th 2010

Shuttle XPC Barebone SG41J1 Now with DDR3 Memory Support

Shuttle Inc., a leading developer and manufacturer of multi-form-factor solutions such as the world-famous XPC Mini-PC Barebones, today announces the introduction of the Shuttle XPC
Barebone SG41J1 Plus. After the successful market launch of the XPC Barebone SG41J1 in February of this year, Shuttle now offers a model with DDR3 support. Finished totally in black and sporting a low-key illuminated XPC logo, the elegant Shuttle XPC Barebone SG41J1 Plus certainly catches the eye.

With an overall capacity of up to 8 GB DDR3 RAM, the Shuttle XPC Barebone SG41J1 Plus benefits from the use of Intel Core 2 series processors and offers a capable onboard graphics chip specially suited for office applications with the Intel GMA X4500. The model provides a 32-bit-PCI slot and PCI-Express-x16 slot for system expansions. The latter can also be fitted with a dual-slot graphics card, if desired.

Shuttle offers high versatility at low prices, making the Shuttle XPC Barebone SG41J1 Plus interesting not just for office applications. Its high-quality chassis accommodates up to two hard disks and one optical drive. And thanks to support of the Mini-ITX standard, there's no problem when it comes to upgrading.

Additionally, there are plenty of connectors provided - USB 2.0, PS/2, parallel and COM ports, DVI, Kensington Lock, Gigabit-LAN and 6-channel sound are present. An efficient 250W power supply delivers the necessary power for the system.

Shuttle's proven heatpipe cooling system will soon be available as an option for the SG41J1 Plus.

The new Shuttle XPC Barebone SG41J1 Plus is available from specialist retailers immediately. Shuttle's recommended price is EUR 159 (ex VAT).
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28 Comments on Shuttle XPC Barebone SG41J1 Now with DDR3 Memory Support

#1
InnocentCriminal
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:O

I like that. However, I wish the front I/O weren't so apparent takes away from the simple and elegant fascia.
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#2
Breathless
Also, it would be nice if the back didn't look like cheap crappy sheet metal
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#3
steelkane
I've build about 15 different barebone models, they run good & take a beating
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InnocentCriminal
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by: steelkane
I've build about 15 different barebone models, they run good & take a beating
They do indeed. I'm actually contemplating picking one of these SG41J+ models up.
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HeX_00
Picked one of these up a couple of days ago. They are a good little barebones unit.

Just be warned these don't come with the ICE cooling, so you will need to find a low profile HSF to fit in there.

I'm currently using the stock Intel cooler as a tempory measure, but I'm going to see if I can get a Scythe Shuriken or the Alpenföhn Panorama squeezed in.
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InnocentCriminal
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Ooooh, Hex would you mind updating this thread once you have found it if either of these coolers fit?
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#7
hat
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What dual slot graphics card is going to work properly with a 250w power supply?
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#8
HeX_00
by: hat
What dual slot graphics card is going to work properly with a 250w power supply?
You'd be suprised. On the shuttle site they have a HD5850 on the list of supported cards!

The spec of the one i've got is currently:

E7200 2.53GHz 3MB + Stock Cooler
4GB Corsair XMS3 1333MHz CAS9
WD Caviar Blue 1TB
Sony 24x DVD-RW
Sapphire HD4850 512MB (Dual Slot)


I'll report back when I get round to trying the new cooler, will be next week sometime with a bit of luck, just waiting for pay day :D
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InnocentCriminal
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by: hat
What dual slot graphics card is going to work properly with a 250w power supply?
As Hex has said you'd surprised. Shuttle PSUs are incredibly efficient. I was running a 3850 on a 240W back in my old SN95G5 without a single issue.
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brandonwh64
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I love the design of these PCs. I finally got to build my own type of shuttle PC for my HTPC and i love it. i turn it out sometime just to play around on it and not watch movies. they are small and good for someone that doesnt have much space in there home for a big rig.

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InnocentCriminal
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I'm glad you said type of Shuttle as that chassis isn't one of Shuttle's. You mean SFF right?
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brandonwh64
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i ment like small HTPC style cases cause i know shuttle uses board like ITX and stuff. i just like the little box style cases like those of the shuttle. i call them shuttle style cases cause the first one i seen WAS a shuttle and i wanted it BAD but didnt have the funds back then.
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InnocentCriminal
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by: brandonwh64
i ment like small HTPC style cases cause i know shuttle uses board like ITX and stuff. i just like the little box style cases like those of the shuttle. i call them shuttle style cases cause the first one i seen WAS a shuttle and i wanted it BAD but didnt have the funds back then.
Completely understandable. Shuttle were the pioneers with small form factor PCs or if you like "Cubes". My 2nd PC and my first self-build was a Shuttle SN45G - it was freaking phenomenal! I managed to get a XP-M 2500+ for it along with some GeIL DDR400 and it was like nothing I'd ever experienced. I don't even know why I wanted a midi tower after using Shuttle XPCs (I have 4) I just decided one day I did.

I've always regretted it.
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InnocentCriminal
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From that picture you linked, it looks awesome! Very nicely done, is it in the Case Gallery?
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#16
steelkane
Found a pic,, the guy I build these for travels all over to do on-site video editing
they were using Xeon Processor L3110

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#17
newmodder
i like those style cases, i do believe i will get one one my next upgrade or new build.
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#19
HeX_00
Well finally got round to putting all this together over the weekend.

In the end I ended up using an Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 Pro (as I got it free :p ), and it just fits. Like, just, so if you are wondering what is the absolute max height for a cooler in one of these, that is it.

Anywho, it fits, and it works rather well for a cheep cooler.


The build went smooth, and all up and running.

The only problem i've had is a memory issue. For some reason I simply cannot get my 4GB Corsair XMS3 1333MHz CAS9 1.5V stuff to run at 1066MHz in this board.

If I run a single stick (either stick) in either slot it will do 1066MHz fine.

If I run both sticks the system will only boot at 800MHz Dual Channel.

Changing to 1066MHz simply refuses to boot, same goes for manually setting memory timings, change anything (even setting them to the same as what AUTO uses) and it will refuse to boot.


I can only assume that there is an incompatibility with the memory and the board, or the mobo really needs a BIOS update.

Running 800MHz Dual Channel is flawless, so i'm leaning more towards a BIOS update being able to fix it. However for now I'm stuck with 800MHz DDR3 CAS6 in Dual Channel.
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InnocentCriminal
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I was hoping I'd be able to fit a Scythe Shuriken in there but I guess I won't be able to without modding. Does the chassis still conform to the original cases in regards to the drive bay tray? I'm still very tempted to pick one up and move away from a full tower.
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#21
HeX_00
From what I can tell the internals are pretty much exactly the same as previous Shuttle chassy that i've used, same drop in drive bay (1x5.25 + 2x3.5), PSU in the same place etc etc.

Only difference I can see is that the CPU socket isn't central (like it would be normally on an ICE cooled shuttle), it is off set to the right (if you were looking from the front), so it is partially under the PSU, which limits the height of the cooler you can use.

Also the NB heatsink is very close to the CPU socket and is a good 1.5" or so tall, so limits how wide your CPU HSF can be.

There are options however, and as I say the Alpine 7 Pro works a treat, and keeps the E7200 nice and cool no problem.

If you are looking at coolers, then max dimensions i'd say are about 100(L) x 95(W) x 115(H) mm (roughly).



I'll see if I can dig out the digi cam and take some pics of the internals :)


Oh, other thing I was rather surprised about, the PSU doesn't have a 6pin connector on it (for the GPU). Would have expected at least 1 on there. Still it works fine with a Molex -> 6pin adaptor, and the 4850 is running perfectly in there. Which means you could quite easily run a 5770 in there as they use about the same power and single 6pin.

You could make a very good desktop replacement with this shuttle quite easily.

Slap in a 45nm Quad, 5770, 4GB DDR3, and a nice big HDD and away you go.
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#22
HeX_00
New BIOS out for this shuttle that is meant to fix the DDR3 support issues (not being able to go over 800MHz).

Going to give it a try this evening and will report back with results!
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InnocentCriminal
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by: HeX_00
New BIOS out for this shuttle that is meant to fix the DDR3 support issues (not being able to go over 800MHz).

Going to give it a try this evening and will report back with results!
w00t!

I hope it works out.
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#24
HeX_00
Well, bad news, 103 flashed, but still won't boot over 800MHz with 2 sticks. :cry:

Single stick does 1066MHz no fuss, put a 2nd in and bam, black screen and no boot.

*sigh*

Must just be a compatibility issue with the memory I have, it's rather odd though as it's not like Corsair is some random brand!
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InnocentCriminal
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Crapass!

Bit of a stupid suggestion but d'you not have any other RAM you could try, it could be a faulty board.
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