Monday, June 7th 2010

Thermaltake Launches Toughpower Grand 80 PLUS Gold Certified PSUs

Thermaltake Technology, leading DIY computer components and power supply brand, today announced the latest addition to the popular “Toughpower” line of high-end PC power supply units, the Toughpower Grand Series. Its grandiose looks with a classy black finish make a clear statement through sheer appearance: this is quality pure. The proprietary 14cm dual-ball-bearing flower-shaped fan provides optimized ventilation for the inside components of the Tougherpower Grand unit. Being 80 PLUS Gold certified users don’t just get a guaranteed eco-friendly PSU with more than 90% efficiency at 50% load and a 0.95 active power factor correction (PFC), but the electricity bill will noticeably drop as well. By virtue of their high-efficiency, the Toughpower Grand 650W (750W peak) and 750W (850W peak) models are ideally suited for high-end gaming and enthusiast PCs powering multi-core processors in combination with multi-GPU setups.

For demanding mission-critical environments and applications, industrial-grade components are indispensible and are being tested 24/7 at 50°C to ensure utmost stability and long-term reliability. The Japanese made and solid state capacitors withstand up to at least 105°C of heat serving as robust foundation for the Toughpower Grand Series. Additional DC-to-DC converter modules for +3.3V and +5V rails ensure low A/C ripple and great system stability. The convenient Cable Management allows you to only connect those components’ power cords that you actually need, this helps to decrease cable mess and increase air circulation within the case.

The Toughpower Grand exclusive 12Vin1 provides for a powerful single 12V rail for best compatibility. The unique FanDelayCool feature enables the flower shape 14cm fan to keep running 15-30 seconds after system shutdown to prolong the lifetime of PSU components.



Two sets of anti-vibration gaskets add to the Toughpower Grand’s overall silence-promisions, while a convenient cable bag keeps the currently unneeded cables in order. With sufficient mounting screws and cable straps you ready to set up your high-end rig with a mighty power supply that stands for best power efficiency and exceptional reliability.

Toughpower Grand 750W (TPG-750M), MSRP US$ 189.90
Toughpower Grand 650W (TPG-650M), MSRP US$ 169.90
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32 Comments on Thermaltake Launches Toughpower Grand 80 PLUS Gold Certified PSUs

#2
horizon2600
Looks good, too bad it doesn't have the 24pin modular.
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#3
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: adriantrances
Looks good, too bad it doesn't have the 24pin modular.
Why do you need 24-pin ATX to be modular? Are you not going to need that connector in your system?
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#4
pr0n Inspector
fan grill will cause a buzzing sound unless it's at least 1 cm away from the fan.
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#5
slyfox2151
why would anyone want the 24pin to be modular? you need it 99.9999 % of the time? the only time you would not need it is if you set the PSU up as an AUX dedicated to run video cards or PSU's and they make special PSU's just for that so there is no point in making the 24pin modular.



as a side note, having it modular is bad as it incresses resistance (i think its resistance, maybe noise as well?)



this also goes for the 8 pin mobo connector







also, after you shutdown the PC and the PSU turns off, why would the tempreture incress if the heat production has stoped? the air would get warmer yes but the componets them selves should get cooler not hotter.
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#6
Flanker
by: pr0n Inspector
fan grill will cause a buzzing sound unless it's at least 1 cm away from the fan.
yeah I'm a bit worried with the noise level as well...
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#7
kaosII
also, after you shutdown the PC and the PSU turns off, why would the tempreture incress if the heat production has stoped? the air would get warmer yes but the componets them selves should get cooler not hotter.


Actually, this is the opposite. Say you are maxing out your pc with a very demanding app. or game. When you shut down you have effectively stopped all cooling of your hottest components. This, is the time when your pc ( Components and case ) get their hottest.
They sell a little Fan plug in that I have been installing in gaming pc's for years to keep your heat sink and a couple fans going for upto 30 sec. after shut down.
I had a link to this story somewhere- if i find it I'll post it. Although, they where primarily talking about water cooled pc's and the benefits of running the pump and rad for a minute or so after heavy load.
This has been done before on other PSU's.
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#8

At this point no other power supply matters to me, i just want a Corsair AX please.
#9
overclocking101
im not really impressed personlly the newer gold lines from other manufacturers have me more impressed
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#10
Kantastic
This might be my new PSU, I'm digging the color scheme.
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#11
Static~Charge
by: slyfox2151
also, after you shutdown the PC and the PSU turns off, why would the tempreture incress if the heat production has stoped? the air would get warmer yes but the componets them selves should get cooler not hotter.
Look at it this way: When you turn off your car, does the engine suddenly get cooler? No. There is a lot of residual heat in the engine, and no more air is flowing around it to dissipate the heat. It actually gets hotter for a while after you stop. This is why the cooling fan in some cars run for a minute or two after you pull the key out of the ignition.

The components in your power supply are still quite warm after you turn off your computer. A little extra cooling after power-down can't hurt.
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#12
Phxprovost
Xtreme Refugee
by: btarunr
Why do you need 24-pin ATX to be modular? Are you not going to need that connector in your system?
maybe i want to change the sleeving, having it modular would make it a hell of alot easier :toast:
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#13
horizon2600
by: btarunr
Why do you need 24-pin ATX to be modular? Are you not going to need that connector in your system?
Easier to sleeve. This PSU asks for black/red murdermod sleeve
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#14
kaosII
by: Static~Charge
Look at it this way: When you turn off your car, does the engine suddenly get cooler? No. There is a lot of residual heat in the engine, and no more air is flowing around it to dissipate the heat. It actually gets hotter for a while after you stop. This is why the cooling fan in some cars run for a minute or two after you pull the key out of the ignition.

The components in your power supply are still quite warm after you turn off your computer. A little extra cooling after power-down can't hurt.
Thank you,
Your analogy is much easier for someone to understand.

Peace.....
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#15
slyfox2151
by: Static~Charge
Look at it this way: When you turn off your car, does the engine suddenly get cooler? No. There is a lot of residual heat in the engine, and no more air is flowing around it to dissipate the heat. It actually gets hotter for a while after you stop. This is why the cooling fan in some cars run for a minute or two after you pull the key out of the ignition.

The components in your power supply are still quite warm after you turn off your computer. A little extra cooling after power-down can't hurt.
no it dosnt, how would it get hotter? yes you have shutdown the cooling. but there is also not more heat being made. it cant get hotter if its not creating heat !. your not burning fuel so thre is no more heat source, it cant get hotter.


your right it wont get cooler but it cant get hotter.
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#16
Kantastic
by: slyfox2151
no it dosnt, how would it get hotter? yes you have shutdown the cooling. but there is also not more heat being made. it cant get hotter if its not creating heat !. your not burning fuel so thre is no more heat source, it cant get hotter.


your right it wont get cooler but it cant get hotter.
It'll get cooler, that's what passive heatsinks are for.
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by: pr0n Inspector
fan grill will cause a buzzing sound unless it's at least 1 cm away from the fan.
Why?
#18
Helper
by: slyfox2151
no it dosnt, how would it get hotter? yes you have shutdown the cooling. but there is also not more heat being made. it cant get hotter if its not creating heat !. your not burning fuel so thre is no more heat source, it cant get hotter.


your right it wont get cooler but it cant get hotter.
It can, and it WILL get hotter if car's radiator fan didn't keep on turning after engine shut off. If you drive and park your car under Sun in a very hot place, that's what will happen. It doesn't always have to create heat to get hotter. As the engine is already hot, breaking down your car and taking it's key out of it will put your engine in it's hottest condition. Once created heat goes away by itself or with the help of vent, then your motor cools down since there isn't any heat left in it.

by: Kantastic
It'll get cooler, that's what passive heatsinks are for.
There's no passive HS in a PSU unless it's a fanless unit. PSU's fan makes those aluminum blocks you see in power supplies active. Once it turns off instantly, right after putting your PC at full load, your components are gonna get even hotter. Thereby you're better off keeping your fan on till your PSU totally cools down, then turn it off.

Kaos and Static Charge are right, what Thermaltake did with this unit is not just marketing. It's better for PSU.
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#19
p30n
by: kaosII

They sell a little Fan plug in that I have been installing in gaming pc's for years to keep your heat sink and a couple fans going for upto 30 sec. after shut down.
Can you tell us more about this fan plug and where one can get it?
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#20
slyfox2151
by: Helper
It can, and it WILL get hotter if car's radiator fan didn't keep on turning after engine shut off. If you drive and park your car under Sun in a very hot place, that's what will happen. It doesn't always have to create heat to get hotter. As the engine is already hot, breaking down your car and taking it's key out of it will put your engine in it's hottest condition. Once created heat goes away by itself or with the help of vent, then your motor cools down since there isn't any heat left in it.


your adding heat to the car from the sun. the sun will not heat up a PSU. where is this extra heat coming from?


if you stop the heat production it cant get hotter.


[quote="Mussels, post: 1920130"]it really doesnt matter. they're skewing the results.


All this means is that their PSU with the delay will cool down to ambient quicker... which doesnt really mean anything. the PSU was operating at those temps, so how is it going to harm it?

heat production simply doesnt continue with the system off, so the temps dont increase on the HARDWARE, but the *air* in the PSU case might - heat is still leaving the PSU components and travelling into the air, but not being pushed out of the enclosure. so the PSU itself is cooling down quite nicely, its the air that isnt.

If you dont get how that works, think of it this way: your bladder is full of hot, steaming urine. you take a piss. suddenly, the toilet waters temperature rose. OH NO. but you (the source of the heat) just dumped a ton of heat out of you... so you're cooler. its just the area around you that got warmed up.


dont forget that sudden changes in temp causes expansion/contraction, which is what slowly kills hardware by cracking solder joins and so on. IMO its best to let it slowly cool down over a minute or two, than their method.
link to thread http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=124020
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#22
Wile E
Power User
by: btarunr
Why do you need 24-pin ATX to be modular? Are you not going to need that connector in your system?
The only thing I can think of, is to make a custom length one without the need to splice, solder, or use extensions.
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#23
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
after your PC shuts off hold your hand on the PSU after a high load it will stay warm from residual heat. no it will not output more heat since the components no longer have a current running through them. the fan staying on will help dissipate residual heat faster there is no harm in it why complain?
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Wile E
Power User
by: cdawall
after your PC shuts off hold your hand on the PSU after a high load it will stay warm from residual heat. no it will not output more heat since the components no longer have a current running through them. the fan staying on will help dissipate residual heat faster there is no harm in it why complain?
It won't produce more heat, but just like in a car, that heat can soak back into the components without the fan moving the air to let it escape. Turbo timier were invented to combat this exact situation in cars. It's a very common, well known happening. The fan staying on is a good thing.
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: Wile E
The only thing I can think of, is to make a custom length one without the need to splice, solder, or use extensions.
People use extensions these days, like the NZXT cable. The joint is neatly tucked away behind the motherboard tray.

by: adriantrances
Easier to sleeve. This PSU asks for black/red murdermod sleeve
I don't see how. Both ends have 24-pin connectors, which is big enough to void any advantage of being modular for sleeving.
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