Thursday, June 10th 2010

Intel Sandy Bridge Quad-Core Processor Tested

At this year's Computex event, some of the most unexpected exhibits were socket LGA1155 motherboards based on Intel 6-series chipsets, across the board, from virtually every major motherboard vendor. Unexpected, because it's been less than an year since released mainstream derivatives of the Nehalem/Westmere architectures that use the LGA1156 socket. LGA1155 will form the base for performance, mainstream, and value segments of processors based on the upcoming Sandy Bridge architecture, which is a generation successor of Nehalem. With so many motherboard vendors showing off their creations in release-grade conditions, it is obvious that engineering samples of processors to go with them are already on the loose and will land in some enthusiast's hands. It did, in the skillful hands of Coolaler, who wasted no time in putting it through a quick run through popular benchmarks.

Coolaler tested an LGA1155 quad-core processor operating at 2.5 GHz, which CPU-Z can't name but marks it as a Sandy Bridge engineering sample. Among the little that's known about this processor, is that it has a base clock speed of 100 MHz (Nehalem/Westmere processors use BClk of 133 MHz), which means that to achieve 2.5 GHz, it uses a multiplier value of 25. It has all the instruction sets of Westmere including SSE 4.2 and AES acceleration, but also features AVX (Advanced Vector Extensions), a successor to SSE 4.2 which expands the processor's number crunching abilities, and increases performance per MHz. The cache structure up to the second level is the same (32 KB L1I, 32 KB L1D, 256 KB /core L2), but uses a smaller L3 cache at 6 MB (compared to 8 MB on Lynnfield). HyperThreading technology provides the OS with 8 logical CPUs to deal with.
The setup was aided with 4 GB of DDR3 memory and ATI Radeon HD 5800 series graphics. The processor crunched Super Pi 1M in 16.349 s, it scored 371 points in CPU Mark. In the multi-threaded Cinebench R11.5 benchmark, the 2.5 GHz chip scored a little under Core i7 860 (reference score). In the Everest CPU Queen, it's about as fast a Core i5 750 from what we could say, but in the Photoworxx test, it outperformed the Core i7 965 XE. In a separate set of tests run on the same hardware albeit in Windows XP, the processor was eight times faster than any other processor in the AES test (because of its native AES extensions), and edged the Core i7 965 XE in memory bandwidth despite having a narrower dual-channel DDR3 IMC.
While the results don't show a revolutionary processor, it is intended to be one. Right now it's eligible for the benefit of doubt. The real benefits will be for those models which come with embedded graphics, since the IGP and memory controller will be present on the same die, instead of the present design where the package is an MCM for two dies: CPU and northbridge. When Sandy Bridge releases is a subject of immense speculation. Since motherboard makers unveiled such mature designs of LGA1155 motherboards as early as in June 2010, a market release of the platform may not be too far away.
Source: Coolaler Forums
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72 Comments on Intel Sandy Bridge Quad-Core Processor Tested

#26
DanishDevil
1156 does have integrated graphics. Look at the i5 650.
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#27
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
DanishDevil1156 does have integrated graphics. Look at the i5 650.
Indeed but they are pathetic compared to the competition.
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#28
DanishDevil
Are Sandy Bridge's integrated graphics going to be drastically better?

They're plenty to get anybody by that doesn't game. What is the "competition" you speak of? These are on-CPU, not on board, remember.
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#29
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
DanishDevilAre Sandy Bridge's integrated graphics going to be drastically better?

They're plenty to get anybody by that doesn't game. What is the "competition" you speak of? These are on-CPU, not on board, remember.
Onboard and on-cpu it doesn't matter.
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#30
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
DrPepperThat's my point the OEM's didn't invest their time on it so they aren't hurting anyone by changing the socket.
True, if they need to do a socket change, I'd rather them do it early then later. I just hope they stick with the new socket for a good long time.

However, I don't see why they would need to do a socket change, if there are problems with the original 1156 socket, then fix them, but keep the socket and make future boards backwards compatible, like they did with 775.
KantasticThe rapid release of so many platforms as confused even you. 1155 has integrated graphics, 1156 doesn't. :D
Confused me?:confused:
DrPepperIndeed but they are pathetic compared to the competition.
All integrated graphics are pathetic.
DanishDevilAre Sandy Bridge's integrated graphics going to be drastically better?

They're plenty to get anybody by that doesn't game. What is the "competition" you speak of? These are on-CPU, not on board, remember.
In the end, it doesn't matter if it is on the CPU or on the motherboard, integrated is integrated. The fact that it is on the CPU just means that there will be less competition, which means suckier products.

And in the end, I agree with you, all integrated graphics suck, they are good for basic office tasks only, and web browsing, and playing back HD video. As long as it can do that, they are all the same to the large majority of end users. Anything more than those tasks, and a dedicated card should be used.
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#31
Kantastic
DanishDevil1156 does have integrated graphics. Look at the i5 650.
Damn I was thinking P55, H55 completely slipped my mind.

*Walks into corner*
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#32
DanishDevil
Now put on the hat of shame! Oh wait...you already have it on in your avatar ;)
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#34
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
newtekie1True, if they need to do a socket change, I'd rather them do it early then later. I just hope they stick with the new socket for a good long time.

However, I don't see why they would need to do a socket change, if there are problems with the original 1156 socket, then fix them, but keep the socket and make future boards backwards compatible, like they did with 775.

All integrated graphics are pathetic.
However unlikely I hope that this new socket is around for longer. Also very basic 3D graphics at least being able to play all games low graphics with enough frames is what I'd love to see,
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#35
a_ump
laptops are the only area of computers that i've found decent integrated gpu's. desktops.....can't say i've ever found one that can play more than starcraft satisfactorily.
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#36
TVman
"lets rearrange the pins so we can fool the dummies into buying this new and improved motherboard"-Intels 2010/11 board meeting :rolleyes: riiight
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#37
Zubasa
DrPepperHowever unlikely I hope that this new socket is around for longer. Also very basic 3D graphics at least being able to play all games low graphics with enough frames is what I'd love to see,
I wouldn't say all games, but I think IGPs needs to be powerful enough to be playable in MMOs.
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#38
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
TVman"lets rearrange the pins so we can fool the dummies into buying this new and improved motherboard"-Intels 2010/11 board meeting :rolleyes: riiight
New and improved cpu's actually. Lets face it these new cpu's simply aren't compatible end of story. If the difference was 100pins people wouldn't kick up the same fuss.
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#39
lemonadesoda
TBH the invention and implementation of QPI should allow the return to multiple socket processor systems with asymetic capabilities, like the days of 386 + 387.

Intel would do well to have a highly efficient main core CPU with the other sockets being able to be populated with HPC or IGP or knights corner targeted instruction sets. We, the user, could then populate the sockets with the feature sets we wanted: more cores, or knights corner, or IGP, or AVX

I find Sandy Bridge tiresome, boring and annoying and a return to overly-proprietary systems or socket formats creating redundancy, increasing wastage, and carbon footprint. If Intel want proprietary profits, I'm fine with that; but not at the expense of waste.
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#40
WhiteLotus
DarthCyclonisI think intel is making a mistake moving from 1156 to 1155 so soon. I know the reason why but think its going to burn those who just moved to 1156
Like me. A few weeks ago Bta posted some new motherboards. I was like, "oh yay more to choose from... research research research"

AH CRAP - wtf is 1155!?!?!?"


Stupid frigging intel.
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#41
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
Definitly not buying this, as some have said, 1366 is a beast of a platform. My current i7 CPU should last me a good couple years. I could care less about intergrated graphics no matter how good they are with Sandy Bridge.

Intels needs to stop changing sockets every 2 seconds and focus more on making there current ones even better.
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#42
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
It is important to note that Windows 7 will support AVX only after updating to Service Pack 1, and that Coolaler is testing this chip on Windows 7 pre-SP1.
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#43
fochkoph
Hopefully all this outrage at 1156 and 2011 puts some pressure on AMD to retain AM3 for Bulldozer if they haven't decided yet. :(
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#44
v12dock
Block Caption of Rainey Street
Terrible name
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#45
Hayder_Master
phanbuey"whats special about this processor?"

"it has our IGP built right in!"
price maybe
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#46
DaC
A friend of mine will buy a new computer and wants something relative fast but not expensive... I'll make him stick with 775 E5300/E7400......
I own a i5-750 myself and really don't see any reason of why going to iX family or even leaving PII-545, as I did, unless you're an enthusiast....
I would recommend you people to not backup this ridiculous socket change if it proves not to have a big performance difference....
So recommend to your friends that are regular users to stick with 775 or am3 socket.... :D
Don't buy it! :shadedshu
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#47
hat
Enthusiast
Hell, I didn't even use AM3 in my last build... I used AM2+
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#48
Flanker
might consider it if it will give a lot more performance per watt, otherwise i'll stick with my E8400 :rockout:
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#49
HillBeast
filip007Only 100Mhz bus speed?

AVX or should i say AltiVec that was only 128bit SSE.
It's not 100MHz bus, it's 100MHz BCLK. They may seem the same but they aren't. The BCLK is just a reference for the components in the CPU/NB/RAM to use with the multipliers. It means on specific component doesn't have to run past it's limitations so you can overclock another. You just bump the BCLK and fiddle with the multipliers to make them the right speed for your liking.

As for my opinion on the matter, sure the scores are an improvement, but the still are no match for my 3.6GHz i7 930, so here are my upgrade plans for when Sandy Bridge comes out:

* New hard drives
* More RAM.

Done. 1366 is epic and will still be epic for a while to come.
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#50
HillBeast
btarunrIt is important to note that Windows 7 will support AVX only after updating to Service Pack 1, and that Coolaler is testing this chip on Windows 7 pre-SP1.
Wouldn't AVX also require software support as well as OS support? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe when SSE2 and SSE3 came out it didn't give a boost to older programs. I'm probably wrong on that but if that's the case, then we may not see a boost until developers incorporate it into their software.
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