Monday, August 9th 2010

GF100 512 Core Graphics Card Tested Against GeForce GTX 480

NVIDIA seems to have overcome initial hiccups with the GF100 graphics processor, and could release a new graphics card that makes use of all 512 CUDA cores, and 64 TMUs on the GPU. The GeForce GTX 480 was initially released as a top SKU based on the GF100, with 480 out of the 512 CUDA cores enabled. What NVIDIA calls the new SKU is subject to some speculation. While GPU-Z screenshots show that the 512 core model has the same device ID (hence the same name, GeForce GTX 480), leading us to believe that this is a specifications update for the same SKU à la GeForce GTX 260 (216 SP), it seems possible that the release-grade models could carry a different device ID and name.

Expreview carried out a couple of tests on the 512 core "GTX 480" graphics card, and compared it to the 480 core model that's out in the market. NVIDIA GeForce 258.96 drivers were used. The 512 core card got a GPU Score of 10,072 points compared to 9,521 points of the 480 core card, in 3DMark Vantage Extreme preset. The additional TMUs showed an evident impact on the texture fillrate, 41.55 GTexel/s for the 512 core card against 38.82 GTexel/s for the 480 core card.

In the second test, Crysis Warhead, with Enthusiast preset, 1920 x 1080 px, and 8x AA, the 512 core card churned out a framerate of 34.72 fps, while the 480 core card trailed at 32.96 fps. In this short bench, the 512 core laden GF100 card is 5~6% faster than the GeForce GTX 480. If NVIDIA manages to release the SKU at the same price-point as the GTX 480 as it did with the GTX 260-216, it will increase NVIDIA's competitiveness further against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5970, which is still the fastest graphics SKU in the market. Below are screenshot comparing scores of both cards.

Source: Expreview
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90 Comments on GF100 512 Core Graphics Card Tested Against GeForce GTX 480

#1
LAN_deRf_HA
I thought in the last news post about this it was pointed out that this is not intended for a mainstream release. It was just some premium card from some manufacturer along the lines of the custom cards asus does.
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#2
HillBeast
Um, what was it I was going to say? Oh right, "BWAHAHAHAHAHA to the fools who bought the GTX480 with the assumption it would be the most powerful card from this generation. Sucks to be you. The 512SP version is better."

Of course by no means is this a good card (as it'll use even MORE power than the GF100s already high TDP), but this is going to be hands down the most powerful (in two ways) single core GPU ever.
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#3
DanishDevil
I don't know why they're wasting their time with GF100 anymore (unless they have a lot more silicon to go through still). Where's the GTX 495 (2x GTX 460s)?
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#4
theonedub
habe fidem
I agree, GF104 for now and when a die shrink is possible we can revisit a new and improved GF100.
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#5
a_ump
here here ^

GF104 has already proved it being better, the GTX 460(GF104) is better than the GTX 465(GF100)
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#6
phanbuey
by: a_ump
here here ^

GF104 has already proved it being better, the GTX 460(GF104) is better than the GTX 465(GF100)
465 is not gf100 it is totally crippled. 460 is good tho, they should have released it with 384 cores.
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#7
LAN_deRf_HA
by: DanishDevil
I don't know why they're wasting their time with GF100 anymore (unless they have a lot more silicon to go through still). Where's the GTX 495 (2x GTX 460s)?
Well as I said I'm pretty sure nvidia isn't wasting their time on this, someone else is. And I believe asus is working on a 480 x2, so they'll be one even if nvidia doesn't do it.
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#9
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: DanishDevil
Where's the GTX 495 (2x GTX 460s)?
GTX 49x is 2x GTX 475, fyi. Those are lined up for Winter.
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#10
RONX GT
When this MONSTER will show up??

I guess GTX 470 is best from GF100 pack. Duel solution could be interesting from this(470)...hmmmm...not thinking of TDP though..
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#11
DanishDevil
Oh dear. Why in the world are they even going to attempt mass-producing a dual GF100 card? Well maybe we'll see a GTX 485 that's dual 460s.
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#12
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: DanishDevil
Oh dear. Why in the world are they even going to attempt mass-producing a dual GF100 card? Well maybe we'll see a GTX 485 that's dual 460s.
There is no dual GF100 NVIDIA SKU. GTX 475 isn't based on GF100.
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#13
VulkanBros
BIOS version 70.00.21.00.00 vs 70.00.21.00.02 .....hmmm

Where can I get this BIOS ??

... Maybe my very :cry: very expensive 480 CUDA core card can turn
into a 512 CUDA core card.... :o

AND...get me a CoolIT OMNI ... my card is an egg-boiler :laugh:
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#14
NdMk2o1o
by: phanbuey
465 is not gf100 it is totally crippled. 460 is good tho, they should have released it with 384 cores.
Its is still based on the gf100 core the same as the 470 and 480.

And this is slightly disappointing, 5-6% faster, whats the point?

by: btarunr
There is no dual GF100 NVIDIA SKU. GTX 475 isn't based on GF100.
Yoe meant 465 right :)
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#15
DanishDevil
by: btarunr
There is no dual GF100 NVIDIA SKU. GTX 475 isn't based on GF100.
I fully retract my previous statements :D
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#16
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: NdMk2o1o
Yoe meant 465 right :)
Wrong, GTX 475.

There's already an SKU called GTX 465, and that's based on GF100.
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#17
NdMk2o1o
by: DanishDevil
Oh dear. Why in the world are they even going to attempt mass-producing a dual GF100 card? Well maybe we'll see a GTX 485 that's dual 460s.
by: btarunr
Wrong, GTX 475.

There's already an SKU called GTX 465, and that's based on GF100.
Ah ok my bad had to reread your 1st comment about the GTX 475 being lined up for winter

Hmm a GTX 475 that isn't based off gf100 that should be interesting, and hopefully means they will have kept its performance in betweeen a 470 and 480 while bringing down the TDP, gf104?
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#18
Easo
by: VulkanBros

Where can I get this BIOS ??
Are you sure that reflashing would enable all shaders?
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#19
VulkanBros
by: Easo
Are you sure that reflashing would enable all shaders?
No....I dont know if that would work...pure speculation...but would be nice if it did ;)
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#20
D4S4


cores are most probably locked at hardware level, therefore... i have a radeon X1800GTO in my rig that has 4 pipes locked at hardware level so there was no soup for me either.
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#21
vagxtr
Don't think this will be a real product. Rather some Limited Edition vaporware like ATi's XT800PE (if anyone remembers that today) and highly overpriced over already insanely priced GTX480 BSE.

by: DanishDevil
I don't know why they're wasting their time with GF100 anymore (unless they have a lot more silicon to go through still).
They counting on high probability of always supportive fans that are out there and ready to buy YACP. And btw. i disagree that GTX480-512 should be higher TDP product than original GTX480. There's pretty huge gap between real GTX470's 210W TDP and GTX480's 260W+ TDP and these products are top binned silicon they collect from GTX480/470 production
Where's the GTX 495 (2x GTX 460s)?
It should be there when ATi releases their HD600 series dont you worry :D
btw.GTX495 should be based on same GF104 chip but it should be based on two GTX475 with fully functional all 8 cores (x48SP), 64 TMUs (like original GF100 flavour). So there should be plenty of new products from envydia this fall.

by: LAN_deRf_HA
Well as I said I'm pretty sure nvidia isn't wasting their time on this, someone else is. And I believe asus is working on a 480 x2, so they'll be one even if nvidia doesn't do it.
Would that be GTX465x2 :roll: Or how to put two already 250W+ wasting chips onto same card, even if pcb's sandwiched together it should be at least triple slot edition with 450W TDP. So i think Asus is selling c-r-a-p yet again and collecting some freebie advertising as their fans bragging about that never to be released card all around the net :wtf:
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#22
erasure
key, kVidia

key, kVidia!
we still wait Dual GPU Fermi ;)
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#24
the54thvoid
Why?

Why oh why?

Nvidia already has the fastest single core GPU. (and hottest, loudest etc). Why would they use the GF100 for this? For 6-7% increase....

Unless it's a partner doing it and not NV?

Although if Southern Islands makes it out this year perhaps this is NV's attempt to dull down ATI's 5xxx series revision.

Two words - performance / watt. Thats all that counts. No point having a 6-7% faster card if it's technologically backwards in respect of power draw.
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#25
ebolamonkey3
Really can't wait for the GTX 475 and GTX 49x this winter!!!

Perhaps Nvidia is releasing them during the winter so they won't run so hot? :p

I kid.... I hope.
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