Thursday, August 19th 2010

MSI Readies New 870A Fuzion Power Edition

MSI is readying yet another socket AM3 motherboard that features the Lucid Hydra chip, called the 870A Fuzion Power Edition. MSI had earlier launched a motherboard with nearly the same features called the 870A Fuzion. The 'new' motherboard from MSI uses the AMD 770 northbridge with the SB850 southbridge, a confusing name. The Lucid Hydra LT22102 chip that lets you pair two different ATI or NVIDIA graphics cards in ATI+ATI, NVIDIA+NVIDIA, and ATI+NVIDIA configurations. What's new with this board, however, is that a few components have been relocated, and the CPU VRM has been upgraded to 10+1 phases with high-C capacitors.

Expansion slots include two PCI-Express 2.0 x16 (full-bandwidth), three PCI-E x1, and one PCI. Connectivity includes 8-channel HD audio with optical and coaxial SPDIF connectors, USB 3.0 (one on the rear panel, one internal port), gigabit Ethernet, FireWire, and a number of USB 2.0 ports. With the SB850 southbridge the motherboard has six internal SATA 6 Gb/s ports. The pricing of this board is expected to be around the 170 EUR mark, which is about 45 EUR more than that of the 870A Fuzion.

Source: SemiAccurate
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25 Comments on MSI Readies New 870A Fuzion Power Edition

#1
Jizzler
Really, two cards eh? I could have done that anyway, sans the ATI + nVidia mix.

Where are the boards that use Lucid's higher-end chip for some 3 or 4-way mixing?
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#2
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: Jizzler
Where are the boards that use Lucid's higher-end chip for some 3 or 4-way mixing?
Yeah, MSI X58 BigBang Fuzion.
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#5
RejZoR
I love the massive heatpipeless coolers on mosfets and SB.
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#7
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Dont understand using the AMD770 with the SB850. Why not go all out with the AMD890 with the SB850? Throw in a couple more USB 3.0 (though I do like the internal for a front mounted USB 3.0 instead of just two rear mounted ones). I mean I like the layout and what not, but not so sure with the whole thing.

Then again a hd5970 + GTX 480 would be uber.
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#8
Hustler
OMG!!!!!....

An AMD Mobo with Nvidia Sli capability......that makes what, about 3 available to choose from out of the dozens and dozens of AMD Mobo's on the market....:rolleyes:

Why Mobo manufacturers seem to think you should be limited to Crossfire rather than Sli when choosing an AMD CPU is indicative of rigging the market IMO......:rolleyes:
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#10
KaelMaelstrom
by: WarEagleAU
Dont understand using the AMD770 with the SB850. Why not go all out with the AMD890 with the SB850? Throw in a couple more USB 3.0 (though I do like the internal for a front mounted USB 3.0 instead of just two rear mounted ones). I mean I like the layout and what not, but not so sure with the whole thing.

Then again a hd5970 + GTX 480 would be uber.
You said it!!!
If Nvidia release the Dual GPU Fermi then it will be godlike teaming up with 5970
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#11
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: Hustler
OMG!!!!!....

An AMD Mobo with Nvidia Sli capability.
What makes you think there aren't AMD motherboards with SLI capability? There were AMD motherboards with SLI capability long before there were Intel motherboards with SLI capability.
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#12
logan
How does Crossfire scale with that Lucid chip compared to standard AMD chipsets?
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#13
Kitkat
I used to think DR MOS!!!! was silly on the cooler but ... Now its just getting worse they could at least Choose a new font style instead of typing it in MS Paint and pasting it on the board
"Military class" OK MSI. OK
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#14
erocker
by: WarEagleAU
Dont understand using the AMD770 with the SB850. Why not go all out with the AMD890 with the SB850? Throw in a couple more USB 3.0 (though I do like the internal for a front mounted USB 3.0 instead of just two rear mounted ones). I mean I like the layout and what not, but not so sure with the whole thing.

Then again a hd5970 + GTX 480 would be uber.
With the Lucid chip, the NB has much less of a workload so the 890 isn't needed. I'm sure it reduces costs some as well. :)
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#15
Meizuman
AT LAST! They got rid of the MOLEX connector to give the extra PCIe power. This is the first one I see with proper PCIe power connector.
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#16
Melvis
by: Kitkat
I used to think DR MOS!!!! was silly on the cooler but ... Now its just getting worse they could at least Choose a new font style instead of typing it in MS Paint and pasting it on the board
"Military class" OK MSI. OK
Have you watched I.T Crowd?

Then you will think the opposite :p :laugh:
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#17
H82LUZ73
by: Hustler
OMG!!!!!....

An AMD Mobo with Nvidia Sli capability......that makes what, about 3 available to choose from out of the dozens and dozens of AMD Mobo's on the market....:rolleyes:

Why Mobo manufacturers seem to think you should be limited to Crossfire rather than Sli when choosing an AMD CPU is indicative of rigging the market IMO......:rolleyes:
So what was Nvidia`s chip-sets all about? You sound anti AMD/ATI too me,Look Nividia screwed themselves`s by only making INTEL use sli.And they don`t make any or too many chip set`s also.So seeing theese boards is good now AMD platforms have a choice.All because Nvidia wanted to say only buy Intel or our chips for sli .......
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#18
blu3flannel
by: Meizuman
AT LAST! They got rid of the MOLEX connector to give the extra PCIe power. This is the first one I see with proper PCIe power connector.
Yeah, it looks a lot better that way. I'd hate having a MOLEX connector in the middle of my motherboard.

Pretty snazzy heatsinks, though. :pimp:
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#19
Hustler
by: H82LUZ73
So what was Nvidia`s chip-sets all about? You sound anti AMD/ATI too me,Look Nividia screwed themselves`s by only making INTEL use sli.And they don`t make any or too many chip set`s also.So seeing theese boards is good now AMD platforms have a choice.All because Nvidia wanted to say only buy Intel or our chips for sli .......
Lol...anti ATI/AMD..:confused:

Thats why i have a Phenom II 955 and a Radeon 4890 then is it?....

The point i was trying to make, which you so obviously missed, is that i would like the choice to have an Nvidia SLi setup without having to search high and low to find an AMD Mobo that supports it...as it is there are hardly any which do.

Is that clear enough for you....:rolleyes:
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#20
Imsochobo
by: WarEagleAU
Dont understand using the AMD770 with the SB850. Why not go all out with the AMD890 with the SB850? Throw in a couple more USB 3.0 (though I do like the internal for a front mounted USB 3.0 instead of just two rear mounted ones). I mean I like the layout and what not, but not so sure with the whole thing.

Then again a hd5970 + GTX 480 would be uber.
BECAUSE:

1. you get 32//32 PCI-E out of it.
2. 870 performs as fast as 890FX with a 5970 for instance.
3. all amd chipsets are the same on the NB side, the diffrence is:
IGP support
IGP Speed.
Pci-e Lanes.

there isnt any other diffrence, understand them fully to use lower end for higher end, and btw, its just like having a P55.....
People underestimate AMD NB..... they're good! very very good!
Sb's... good enough, major changes is happening 750 is okey 850 is pretty good. intel ahead on sb.
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#21
Imsochobo
by: H82LUZ73
So what was Nvidia`s chip-sets all about? You sound anti AMD/ATI too me,Look Nividia screwed themselves`s by only making INTEL use sli.And they don`t make any or too many chip set`s also.So seeing theese boards is good now AMD platforms have a choice.All because Nvidia wanted to say only buy Intel or our chips for sli .......
Nvidia have lost my faith in chipsets, faults, like unexplainable faults.
And I didnt buy anything else than nforce chipsets to the 5 series, 6 series was horrible, fixed up one for my friend, 3 rma's and got another chipset (amd) and later the e-tailer pulled most of the 6 series chipsets.

Colleagues having issues, work computers have issues...
They will earn money on SLI licence cost, unless hydra kills that.
good luck trying not to get squeezed by amd and intel nvidia, but how could they be joining in on the fusion stuff?
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#22
Kitkat
by: WarEagleAU
Dont understand using the AMD770 with the SB850. Why not go all out with the AMD890 with the SB850? Throw in a couple more USB 3.0 (though I do like the internal for a front mounted USB 3.0 instead of just two rear mounted ones). I mean I like the layout and what not, but not so sure with the whole thing.

Then again a hd5970 + GTX 480 would be uber.
Crosshair IV Extreme

And doesn't matter about brand vs brand its not even a deciding factor. Most ppl who chose AMD already chose a camp and don't care about Phyx the bigger news is Lucid boosting graphics 30% in any configuration. (at least at ASUS )

And maybe they chose 870 to keep the cost down cause they dont have the same "deal" With lucid other companies do, or that what they chose cause they know it dosnt matter. So They cut it down to 2 PCIE and optimize it. After u fill those 2 slots thats it.
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#23
Loosenut
Forgive this post of mine as I've had quite a few belts but my slightly pickled and inebreated mind just had a scary thought... Hydra is a wonderful idea but how is Nvidia going to react to it? Are they going to gimp their drivers because you're using a Hydra chip and not their Nvidia chipset?
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#24
Kitkat
by: Loosenut
Forgive this post of mine as I've had quite a few belts but my slightly pickled and inebreated mind just had a scary thought... Hydra is a wonderful idea but how is Nvidia going to react to it? Are they going to gimp their drivers because you're using a Hydra chip and not their Nvidia chipset?
No. They have nothing they want to protect but Phyx atm. There is no reason for them to. Buying 1 or one Nvidia cards Is buying one of more Nvidia cards to nvidia. Its 3rd party and AT the board. They cant gimp anything. There is NO nvidia chipset. They have already "reacted".
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#25
Skreewy
4 way 5970's

So if say MSI was to make a motherboard with four PCI-E slots could you put four 5970's in them or no?
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