So, by adding a better cooler, they increased the performance without doing anything else? Sounds like something's throttling because of heat. :laugh:

I'm sorry but thats just funny. Apple will pitch this as some kind of "Green" solution to help the enviroment. You know "Our computers run off pure water recycled!"

Those blocks look exactly like the Corsair H50 cooler... so they just installed two of those into the case? :laugh:

asetek makes the corsair and for other brands like HP , the model they show is already existing for HP http://www.asetek.com/products/oem-custom-products/hp-z800-workstations.html they should make one model with quick-disconnect so user would add some radiators & waterblocks

meh... two pumps is just asking for it. Just adding additional pieces to the system that can fail and are difficult to replace. These types of systems are the "shut the case and never open it again" type that are designed to run as long as possible with the least amount of maintenance. Having just a cooling system so complex makes no sense. Not like they're over-clocking it.

Overclocking? More like overheating at stock :laugh:

i have to agree, the performance claim is either dodgy marketing (almost illegal, really), or an indicator of the CPU's overheating and throttling.

Eh what are you guys on about? They over-clocked it from 2.8 to 3.16 of course there will be performance increase : /

by: pantherx12

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Eh what are you guys on about? They over-clocked it from 2.8 to 3.16 of course there will be performance increase : /

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this line is what confuses "Asetek showed how the cooling solution facilitates improved overall system performance and reduced noise overall of a 3.06 GHz Mac Pro compared to a 3.20 GHz model" so they showed how a cooler makes a 3.06Ghz model faster than a 3.20Ghz model? nowhere in the press release is an overclock mentioned - only in the video.

by: Mussels

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this line is what confuses "Asetek showed how the cooling solution facilitates improved overall system performance and reduced noise overall of a 3.06 GHz Mac Pro compared to a 3.20 GHz model" so they showed how a cooler makes a 3.06Ghz model faster than a 3.20Ghz model? nowhere in the press release is an overclock mentioned - only in the video.

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I can't find that statement anywhere but on TPU, could just be a mistake : ]

by: pantherx12

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I can't find that statement anywhere but on TPU, could just be a mistake : ]

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what, our news staff make mistakes? NEVER *cough, cough*

Does anyone realize this is made for the 2008 and older macpros? This is for dual harpertown 771 socket machines. Old tech.

I don't care what platform it's for, it's another system that'll leak into PSUs, as previous models did. use some cooler parts rather than the hot crap. OH, sry, I forgot, no such parts are made today. My bad.

or they could just stop stuffing them into overdesigned aluminum toasters and leave enough on the MB for like a thermalright MUX120... Problem solved :P... not like the teeny rad is going to cool 2 Quads properly anyways. Decent... not even good... just decent air would do way better.

I don't see why they wouldn't use just one pump (Pump+cpublock+rad)? I mean wouldn't it make the system cheaper to build? Or are they trying to make a redundant water system?

Hey guys, I just wanted to pop in and clarify that the main benefit of the liquid cooling is that my Mac Pro is now much quieter than it was before, especially when at load. The overclocking was a side benefit. Take care, -Zack

this is just plain funny, i got a good belly laugh out of this story. water cooling a mac... come on try and not laugh.

i cannot see this selling many units. how many mac pro owners overclock their rigs to justify the added cost?

by: Easy Rhino

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i cannot see this selling many units. how many mac pro owners overclock their rigs to justify the added cost?

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Actually, we aren't looking to sell this. It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.

by: zack.asetek

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Actually, we aren't looking to sell this. It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.

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ah! now i understand!

by: phanbuey

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meh... two pumps is just asking for it. Just adding additional pieces to the system that can fail and are difficult to replace. These types of systems are the "shut the case and never open it again" type that are designed to run as long as possible with the least amount of maintenance. Having just a cooling system so complex makes no sense. Not like they're over-clocking it.

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At least if one pump fails, the other pump will keep the system going. Though being Asetek, I think all their blocks just have a pump integrated anyway, and they are just throwing together what they already have available to make a functioning unit.

by: Easy Rhino

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i cannot see this selling many units. how many mac pro owners overclock their rigs to justify the added cost?

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It isn't just about overclocking. The sound benefit alone would be nice, the Mac Pro I use is loud as hell under load. I'd spend $200 to quiet the thing down(just a guess on retail if this ever went retail based on pricing of their other coolers). When your talking about $3500 on a base system, $200 is a drop in the bucket, so I could see people paying it for a quieter version. I could just see this as an option on Apple's site. "Asetek Self Contained Liquid Cooling to reduce system noice by up to 50%!" - $200 I'm sure a lot of people buying Mac Pros would actually go with that...though knowing Apple they would charge $500+ for it making it not worth it...but people would probably still buy it...

by: zack.asetek

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Actually, we aren't looking to sell this. It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.

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I think you should sell it, I'd buy one(or rather I'd have my company buy one for their Mac Pro:laugh:).

by: zack.asetek

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Actually, we aren't looking to sell this. It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.

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that does make more sense.

Aye it would have to be done via Apple to be any kind of success. I know lots of people with Macs who don't even know what's inside let alone have a hankering to open it up and upgrade things.

by: pantherx12

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Aye it would have to be done via Apple to be any kind of success. I know lots of people with Macs who don't even know what's inside let alone have a hankering to open it up and upgrade things.

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'superior hardware' is all i ever get from them, unless they read it off the sticker on the side as they're talking to me.

by: Mussels

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'superior hardware' is all i ever get from them, unless they read it off the sticker on the side as they're talking to me.

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I've had that a few times, on one occasion I knew the specs of the mac in question (roughly) so let them know my self built computer was about 60% more Powerful and cost half the price :laugh: