Monday, August 30th 2010

Asetek Demos Water Cooling Solution Tailor-Made for Apple Mac Pro

Cooling specialist Asetek, which specializes in OEM water cooling solutions, has come up with a new CPU water cooling solution for the Apple Mac Pro workstation, which claims to bring down temperatures and noise of the stock heatsink-fan assembly. The cooler design is straightforward: two CPU waterblocks that have built-in pumps sit serial across a coolant loop that connects to a reservoir and radiator. The tubing is pre-fitted. In a video demonstration, Asetek showed how the cooling solution facilitates improved overall system performance and reduced noise overall of a 3.06 GHz Mac Pro compared to a 3.20 GHz model. Perhaps Asetek is pitching this new solution to Apple.
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26 Comments on Asetek Demos Water Cooling Solution Tailor-Made for Apple Mac Pro

#1
GENTLEMEN
So, by adding a better cooler, they increased the performance without doing anything else? Sounds like something's throttling because of heat. :laugh:
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#2
TheMailMan78
Big Member
I'm sorry but thats just funny. Apple will pitch this as some kind of "Green" solution to help the enviroment. You know "Our computers run off pure water recycled!"
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#3
random
Those blocks look exactly like the Corsair H50 cooler... so they just installed two of those into the case? :laugh:
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#5
phanbuey
meh... two pumps is just asking for it. Just adding additional pieces to the system that can fail and are difficult to replace.

These types of systems are the "shut the case and never open it again" type that are designed to run as long as possible with the least amount of maintenance. Having just a cooling system so complex makes no sense. Not like they're over-clocking it.
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#6
GENTLEMEN
Overclocking? More like overheating at stock :laugh:
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#7
Mussels
Moderprator
i have to agree, the performance claim is either dodgy marketing (almost illegal, really), or an indicator of the CPU's overheating and throttling.
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#8
pantherx12
Eh what are you guys on about?

They over-clocked it from 2.8 to 3.16 of course there will be performance increase : /
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#9
Mussels
Moderprator
by: pantherx12
Eh what are you guys on about?

They over-clocked it from 2.8 to 3.16 of course there will be performance increase : /
this line is what confuses

"Asetek showed how the cooling solution facilitates improved overall system performance and reduced noise overall of a 3.06 GHz Mac Pro compared to a 3.20 GHz model"

so they showed how a cooler makes a 3.06Ghz model faster than a 3.20Ghz model?

nowhere in the press release is an overclock mentioned - only in the video.
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#10
pantherx12
by: Mussels
this line is what confuses

"Asetek showed how the cooling solution facilitates improved overall system performance and reduced noise overall of a 3.06 GHz Mac Pro compared to a 3.20 GHz model"

so they showed how a cooler makes a 3.06Ghz model faster than a 3.20Ghz model?

nowhere in the press release is an overclock mentioned - only in the video.
I can't find that statement anywhere but on TPU, could just be a mistake : ]
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Mussels
Moderprator
by: pantherx12
I can't find that statement anywhere but on TPU, could just be a mistake : ]
what, our news staff make mistakes? NEVER *cough, cough*
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#12
Fitseries3
Eleet Hardware Junkie
Does anyone realize this is made for the 2008 and older macpros? This is for dual harpertown 771 socket machines. Old tech.
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#13
cadaveca
My name is Dave
I don't care what platform it's for, it's another system that'll leak into PSUs, as previous models did. use some cooler parts rather than the hot crap.


OH, sry, I forgot, no such parts are made today. My bad.
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#14
phanbuey
or they could just stop stuffing them into overdesigned aluminum toasters and leave enough on the MB for like a thermalright MUX120... Problem solved :P...

not like the teeny rad is going to cool 2 Quads properly anyways. Decent... not even good... just decent air would do way better.
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#15
Mindweaver
Moderato®™
I don't see why they wouldn't use just one pump (Pump+cpublock+rad)? I mean wouldn't it make the system cheaper to build? Or are they trying to make a redundant water system?
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#16
zack.asetek
Asetek Rep
Hey guys,

I just wanted to pop in and clarify that the main benefit of the liquid cooling is that my Mac Pro is now much quieter than it was before, especially when at load. The overclocking was a side benefit. Take care,

-Zack
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#17
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
this is just plain funny, i got a good belly laugh out of this story.

water cooling a mac... come on try and not laugh.
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#18
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
i cannot see this selling many units. how many mac pro owners overclock their rigs to justify the added cost?
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zack.asetek
Asetek Rep
by: Easy Rhino
i cannot see this selling many units. how many mac pro owners overclock their rigs to justify the added cost?
Actually, we aren't looking to sell this.

It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.
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Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
by: zack.asetek
Actually, we aren't looking to sell this.

It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.
ah! now i understand!
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#21
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
by: phanbuey
meh... two pumps is just asking for it. Just adding additional pieces to the system that can fail and are difficult to replace.

These types of systems are the "shut the case and never open it again" type that are designed to run as long as possible with the least amount of maintenance. Having just a cooling system so complex makes no sense. Not like they're over-clocking it.
At least if one pump fails, the other pump will keep the system going.

Though being Asetek, I think all their blocks just have a pump integrated anyway, and they are just throwing together what they already have available to make a functioning unit.

by: Easy Rhino
i cannot see this selling many units. how many mac pro owners overclock their rigs to justify the added cost?
It isn't just about overclocking. The sound benefit alone would be nice, the Mac Pro I use is loud as hell under load. I'd spend $200 to quiet the thing down(just a guess on retail if this ever went retail based on pricing of their other coolers). When your talking about $3500 on a base system, $200 is a drop in the bucket, so I could see people paying it for a quieter version.

I could just see this as an option on Apple's site.

"Asetek Self Contained Liquid Cooling to reduce system noice by up to 50%!" - $200

I'm sure a lot of people buying Mac Pros would actually go with that...though knowing Apple they would charge $500+ for it making it not worth it...but people would probably still buy it...

by: zack.asetek
Actually, we aren't looking to sell this.

It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.
I think you should sell it, I'd buy one(or rather I'd have my company buy one for their Mac Pro:laugh:).
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#22
Mussels
Moderprator
by: zack.asetek
Actually, we aren't looking to sell this.

It's a custom job by our team here and I thought it was unique enough to share.
that does make more sense.
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#23
pantherx12
Aye it would have to be done via Apple to be any kind of success.

I know lots of people with Macs who don't even know what's inside let alone have a hankering to open it up and upgrade things.
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Mussels
Moderprator
by: pantherx12
Aye it would have to be done via Apple to be any kind of success.

I know lots of people with Macs who don't even know what's inside let alone have a hankering to open it up and upgrade things.
'superior hardware' is all i ever get from them, unless they read it off the sticker on the side as they're talking to me.
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#25
pantherx12
by: Mussels
'superior hardware' is all i ever get from them, unless they read it off the sticker on the side as they're talking to me.
I've had that a few times, on one occasion I knew the specs of the mac in question (roughly) so let them know my self built computer was about 60% more Powerful and cost half the price :laugh:
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