Friday, October 15th 2010

NVIDIA to Counter Radeon HD 6970 ''Cayman'' with GeForce GTX 580

AMD is undertaking its product development cycle at a breakneck pace, NVIDIA trailed it in the DirectX 11 and performance leadership race by months. This November, AMD will release the "Cayman" GPU, its newest high end GPU, the expectations are that it will outperform the NVIDIA GF100, that is a serious cause for concern, for the green team. It's back to its old tactics of talking about GPUs that haven't even taken shape, to try and water down AMD's launch. Enter, the GF110, NVIDIA's new high-end GPU under design, on which is based the GeForce GTX 580.

The new GPU is speculated to have 512 CUDA cores, 128 TMUs, and a 512-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface holding 2 GB of memory, with a TDP of close to that of the GeForce GTX 480. In the immediate future, there are prospects of a more realistic-sounding GF100b, which is basically GF100 with all its 512 CUDA cores enabled, while retaining its 384-bit GDDR5 memory interface, 64 TMUs, and slightly higher TDP than that of the GTX 480.Sources: 3DCenter.org, PCGH
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195 Comments on NVIDIA to Counter Radeon HD 6970 ''Cayman'' with GeForce GTX 580

#1
mdsx1950
LoL xD

Still no flagship GTX4xx card. And they are already thinking about the GTX 580 :p
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#2
KaelMaelstrom
GTX 580??? so fast?? come on Nvidia, where is the grand daddy of the 400s GTX490???
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#3
kkaddu
The 580 IS the "490"
This was always the plan. hope this time these come with tripple fan coolers only. lol
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#4
Atom_Anti
Nvidia you are so funny:laugh:, I like you! However you going to deep very soon:pimp:.
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#5
the54thvoid
by: btarunr
It's back to its old tactics of talking about GPUs that haven't even taken shape, to try and water down AMD's launch
Says it right on the tin.
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#6
afw
LOL ... this battle is epic ... :roll:
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#7
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
I'm surprised at nvidia here. I mean why create a new GPU when you can just rebrand and call it "new"? I mean, shit, they've done it for the last 3 or 4 years now and taken the sucker's money, so why stop now?

/sarcasm
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#8
inferKNOX
nVidia:

How on Earth can they chop the GTX480 then put out the original GTX480 as a GTX580? What a move of desperation!
Just when I was annoyed with AMD acting like nVidia with the rebranding/renaming/repricing/whatever, nVidia proved themselves truly unique! :p
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#9
amschip
I wonder if this one will still have wood screws or they will upgrade it to metal ones :laugh:
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#11
crow1001
Apparently the 6970 will not be that much faster than a 480, maybe 10%, so it makes sense for Nvdia to bring out something that will take the fastest single GPU crown back from AMD ASAP, and it won't take much to do it.
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#12
RejZoR
512bit bus. We can assume it will be a 4 digit price tag... :D
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#13
Black Panther
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by: crow1001
Apparently the 6970 will not be that much faster than a 480, maybe 10%,
If that's true, it makes even less sense for AMD to release that 6970.........

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#15
Red_Machine
Well, at least we have a confirmation on the 500 series. Anybody know when nVidia slated them for launch? Was it next november?
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#16
SNICK
there is no way they can make 512BIT bus mammoth in 40nm node.most likely it would be fully enabled gf100 core.power consumtion on 40nm node would be close to 500watts!!!:rockout:
512 cores gf100 is only 5.64% faster than gtx 480.
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#17
HXL492
A TDP close to the 480GTX???? I can see where this is heading....:shadedshu
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#19
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
by: Black Panther
If that's true, it makes even less sense for AMD to release that 6970.........

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_480_Fermi/images/metro_2033_1280_1024.gif
This one looks like a driver glitch to me, BP. As lol-inducing as it is seeing a 4890 beating a GTX 480 in this test, you'd expect the 5870 to beat the 4890.

I reckon that with the latest drivers, you'd see the cards in the expected order of GTX 480, 5870 and the 4890 coming in last.

EDIT: BP edited her post with updated results (see her post 22) so it makes more sense. The link in my quote points to the original results.
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#20
csendesmark
by: crow1001
Yes very informative, one game at one low res, as of today the 480 is a good 20% faster in the majority of titles over the 5870, even more depending on how much AA is used

45% quicker at a proper res and with AA.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2619/eeep.jpg
...and it's ~20% cheaper :)
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#21
Black Panther
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by: qubit
This one looks like a driver glitch to me, BP. As lol-inducing as it is seeing a 4890 beating a GTX 480 in this test, you'd expect the 5870 to beat the 4890.

I reckon that with the latest drivers, you'd see the cards in the expected order of GTX 480, 5870 and the 4890 coming in last.
Now that you mention it, I was seeing it a bit weird! :laugh:

Also about the 5970 - 6970, I imagined it would be a dual-gpu like its predecessor:slap:

I'll edit my post for a more realistic graph, sorry!
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#22
crow1001
The DX11 card will be rendering with the DX11 code, the DX10 cards the DX10 code, therefor a lot more GPU intensive on the DX11 cards.
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#23
MikeX
512 shaders, this is probably the 512 shaders binned GTX 480 Nvidia that has kept under the nvidia shoes for so long.
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#24
crow1001
by: Black Panther
Now that you mention it, I was seeing it a bit weird! :laugh:

Also about the 5970 - 6970, I imagined it would be a dual-gpu like its predecessor:slap:

I'll edit my post for a more realistic graph, sorry!
Hardly more realistic lol, that bench was ran in DX9 and not DX11 where the 480 owns the 5870.

So 480 50% quicker at 1080p



http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/asus-matrix-5870_9.html#sect1
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#25
caleb
Goodie more releases = better prices on decent "older" cards.
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