Monday, November 15th 2010

NVIDIA Makes GeForce GTX 460 SE Official

NVIDIA made the latest variant of the GeForce GTX 460, the GeForce GTX 460 SE. The GTX 460 SE is a new variant that is designed to give a good price-performance level without compromising on memory amount or bandwidth. It retains 1 GB of GDDR5 memory across a 256-bit wide memory interface of the GTX 460 1 GB variant, but has a lower CUDA core count of 288. Clock speeds are slightly lower, too. While the core, CUDA cores, and memory are clocked at 675/1350/3600 MHz on the 1 GB and 768 MB variants, for the GTX 460 SE, it's 650/1300/3400 MHz. Expect the GTX 460 SE to be priced slightly lower than the GTX 460 768 MB.
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26 Comments on NVIDIA Makes GeForce GTX 460 SE Official

#1
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
The CUDA core count in that specs sheet image is a typo. 228 isn't divisible by 48. Correct count is 288.
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#3
the54thvoid
They release the GTX 580. Then they make this official. What a come down. :confused:
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#4
NastyHabits
Probably just a way to get rid of chips that don't make the grade.
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#5
W1zzard
by: Cheeseball
What's the ROP count?
NVIDIA offers two variants of the GeForce GTX 460, one with 768 MB of GDDR5 memory and one with 1 GB. Due to the GPU architecture this change in memory size not only affects the actual memory but also other performance relevant figures. The reduction of memory size is achieved by installing less memory chips on the card which reduces the bus width of the GPU from 256-bit to 192-bit on the 768 MB version. Since the ROPs are coupled to the memory interface this also results in less ROP units.
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#6
assaulter_99
Always wondered what SE meant, I think I got my answer. *suck edition*
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#7
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Seems like they are taking a page from ATi's book with the naming and making a Sucky Edition.:nutkick:

Should actually be a decent card though if priced right, and I think I would take this over a 768MB variety if I was looking to play modern games, because the 768MB was proving to be a problem in some modern games at 1080p+ resolutions.(Dirt2 and Metro2033 both go beyond the 768MB memory and start to stutter, for example). Though I was hoping they would just release a GTX460 1.5GB version.

by: Cheeseball
What's the ROP count?
Should be 32 since they are tied to the memory controllers active.

by: NastyHabits
Probably just a way to get rid of chips that don't make the grade.
Yeah, that is my guess as well. I'd like to see the price on this though, because in the past slightly crippled cards that were released as a way to get rid of chips that didn't make the grade were some of the best valued cards around. GTX260, 8800GT/9800GT, 8800GS/9600GSO, 8800GTS 320/640MB all crippled cards that were amazing values.
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#8
MxPhenom 216
Corsair Fanboy
Whats the point of this card? whos its competition?

Nvidia bring us the fully unlocked dual GF104 card we have been waiting for 'GTX590'
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#9
NdMk2o1o
Wow so now there are 3 460 cards, 4601Gb, 768mb and now the SE :rolleyes:
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#10
AltecV1
i think its meant to be direct competitor to the best selling ati card the HD 5770 but it just my guess
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#11
assaulter_99
by: NdMk2o1o
Wow so now there are 3 460 cards, 4601Gb, 768mb and now the SE :rolleyes:
Competition for the dumb customer is great man! That market is thriving! :laugh:
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#12
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
by: nvidiaintelftw
Whats the point of this card? whos its competition?

Nvidia bring us the fully unlocked dual GF104 card we have been waiting for 'GTX590'
It is supposed to perform just under the GTX460 768MB, so I'd guess it is meant to compete directly with the HD5770...I mean HD6770.:laugh:

But I'm guessing performance will be closer to the GTX460 768MB, especially in newer DX11 games at higher resolutions as I said. So it seems they are filling a spot that doesn't really have a card anymore since the HD5830 has been EOL'd. Smart if it is priced right. If the prices are right at H5770 prices, or ever so slightly higher this card will be a great value.
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#13
JrRacinFan
Served 5k and counting ...
Wouldn't consider this exactly as a "dumb" move, it will just mean nV will be competing with itself & 5770. I'm suspecting this to put between 5770/6770 & 460 768MB flavor.
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#15
a_ump
first thought that i got was they might remove the 768mb version and just keep the GTX 460 1gb and 1gb SE. just kinda makes more sense to me than keeping all 3 versions.
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#16
newtekie1
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by: a_ump
first thought that i got was they might remove the 768mb version and just keep the GTX 460 1gb and 1gb SE. just kinda makes more sense to me than keeping all 3 versions.
I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
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#17
Cheeseball
Thanks for the info about the ROPs guys.

With this, they may actually get rid of the 768MB/192bit and replace it with the SE. Having two GTX 460s with the same name (but differing memory) is confusing.
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#18
Over_Lord
News Editor
by: assaulter_99
Always wondered what SE meant, I think I got my answer. *suck edition*
LMAO !!!! :toast:

Well, the core count is 288 AFAIK, and if they really wanted to sell a "cheap" (emphasis on 'c' word), they why did they not settle for 192-bit ???

nVidia = a very confused group of techmaniacs
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#19
a_ump
won't it make manufacturing easier if they only have to implement a handicapped core instead of different PCB(memory) layouts of the 768mb and 1gb version. So if they phase out the 768mb version then they'd only need 1 assembly line so to speak.
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#20
u2konline
Is any of these SE cards one 6 pin?
if not, what is the point in releasing lower performance 460 cards, at high prices?
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#22
Semi-Lobster
by: hayder.master
they should call it GTX455
Yah or the GTS 550 or something. What was the point of jumping to the GTX 580 when you're not even done with the previous generation?
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#23
newtekie1
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by: a_ump
won't it make manufacturing easier if they only have to implement a handicapped core instead of different PCB(memory) layouts of the 768mb and 1gb version. So if they phase out the 768mb version then they'd only need 1 assembly line so to speak.
The PCB on the 768MB version was the same as the 1GB version, it just was missing two memory chips.

by: hayder.master
they should call it GTX455
I think they are reserving that name for the fully enabled GF106.
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#24
PopcornMachine
Looking forward to reviews to see how the changes affect performance.
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#25
a_ump
by: Semi-Lobster
Yah or the GTS 550 or something. What was the point of jumping to the GTX 580 when you're not even done with the previous generation?
too true. Nvidia really can suck on my balls, 2 times. They went from GTX 285>GTX 480>GTX 580 in a year. To anyone on the outside that isn't too tech savy that would appear they've improved by 3 generations when they've only moved one. GT200>Fermi.

And what the hell happened to the 300 series? i heard it was supposed to be OEM but i still have no idea of any 300 series cards there are. I originally thought that their was going to be a respin on the GT200 to be made into the 300 series, but that would make sense.

Honestly....how in the FUCK is Nvidia so retarded to be jumping up their naming scheme ladder so dam fast. I know middle schoolers that could have done their naming scheme more logically. It should have gone GTX 285>GTX 380(GTX 480)>GTX 385(GTX 580). I see AMD with their recent change of the X8XX range being mid-hig/mid range instead of their top single chip perf line but that really doesn't compare to how fast Nvidia is jumping up theirs.

Not tryin to be anti-nvidia but it frustrates me to see a company full of more intelligent people than myself doing something this simple in an illogical way. What's the world coming to :banghead:
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