I expect to become a top celebrity and possibly a billionaire in the next year. I have plans and therefore that is news! I have some potential and as long as everyone else on earth decides to lay down and just accept the greatness that is me I must achieve my goals.

Attached is a resume and a list of places I have applied. Wow, 2011 is going to be the best year ever!

/sarcasm

I am keen to see the specs, Im hoping for some GF104's and 106's with more portions of the core enabled, or maybe even some GF110 secret sauce applied.

btarunr...Only NVIDIA GPUs support NVIDIA Optimus technology...

I'm sure as hell AMD won't be supporting NVIDIA Optimus on AMD cards...

btarunr...For performance users: GeForce GT 540M, GeForce GT 550M, and GeForce GT 555M with over four times the performance of integrated graphics and twice the DirectX 11 performance of the competition...

A bold claim right there. Would be really nice it true.

MistralI'm sure as hell AMD won't be supporting NVIDIA Optimus on AMD cards...



A bold claim right there. Would be really nice it true.

Yeah. AMD have NVIDIA beat in the mobile department. The BEST example is 2x5870 vs a GTX 480. The 5870s perform better, use less power and cost less.

Nvidia 500M series GPU, 20% of leading manufacturers decide it is not worth it to put in Nvidia Optomis.

Lower end Nvidia models only offer twice the performance of integrated video ______________ AKA brand X.


Only Nvidia offers nspin, with great features like being better than unnamed brand X, salsa named drivers, a marketing director with the same last name as Haas Avacados, leading to a spicy Tex -Mex experience only available from Nvidia.

id need to see specs on the new parts to make a judgement but i doubt there all that much faster then previous tech in the mobile sector as nvidia has been riding the G92 in the mobile scene for a long long time and even the newer parts arent much of an improvement performance wise. Altho who knows maybe ill be surprised this time around.

well as long as they don't go up in fail like the 8600m gpu's i'm sure they'll be just fine.

those claims are a trick anyway.


twice/four times the power of the competitions INTEGRATED. not their discrete mobile parts.

Posts the pics of nvidias dual gpu card. I know its there......

MrAlexYeah. AMD have NVIDIA beat in the mobile department. The BEST example is 2x5870 vs a GTX 480. The 5870s perform better, use less power and cost less.

What does your example have to do with these 500 series mobile GPU?

OT: I guess we wait to see how these laptops will perform. I'm sort of interested in building a HTPC this year and have been wondering if I might be better off buying a laptop. I hope some genuine performance comparisons come out soon.

I don't want to sound like a fanbuoy, but the 5870M from ATI smokes any nvidia chip out there. And consume less. And costs less....
nvidia on the mobile department is a BIG FAIL!!! Again, I'm not a fb, I just read at least 10 reviews on the nets....

Personally I would avoid claiming that Nvidia fails at mobile graphics, because while their top end is very power hungry, people having those graphics card are using a desktop replacement laptops anyway, so it doesnt matter at all. Also, their mid end graphics card are very decent in the power department, so AMD's advantage evaporates here. All in all, even with so much fail in desktop segment, their laptop segment is still competitive. In a way.

www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html

MrAlexYeah. AMD have NVIDIA beat in the mobile department. The BEST example is 2x5870 vs a GTX 480. The 5870s perform better, use less power and cost less.

wrong, and hardly the best example, have you seen the review of GTX460m SLi vs Mobility 5870CF?

www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460m-avadirect-x7200-sli,2799.html

an excerpt from the conclusion;

Thus, we have two conclusions, and the first one is in regards to GPU alacrity. At less than half the cost and armed with most of the performance of Nvidia's GeForce GTX 480M, the GTX 460M becomes our preferred notebook GPU at this time. A pair of these easily smashes the performance of AMD’s fastest CrossFire-based solution. So take two now, and then call the doctor in the morning if you find yourself suddenly addicted to gaming at full detail levels on a laptop.

www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-460M.33612.0.html

As I said, if they can just apply some of what they did to GF100 to make GF110, or even simply take the chips that bin for the lowest votlage and up the clocks a bit, Nvidia will be just fine in this mobile generation.

FourstaffPersonally I would avoid claiming that Nvidia fails at mobile graphics, because while their top end is very power hungry, people having those graphics card are using a desktop replacement laptops anyway, so it doesnt matter at all. Also, their mid end graphics card are very decent in the power department, so AMD's advantage evaporates here. All in all, even with so much fail in desktop segment, their laptop segment is still competitive. In a way.

www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html

it is a fail, they dont top out ati in performance, yet higher power consumtion.
Our mobile workstations at work, ATI.
we still run nvidia for desktop workstations, but nvidia have shown decreasing in its driver department.
Unfortunately :(

and wolf yea the sli wins but you did notice through the entire review your comparing the 460m with a superior cpu against the 5870m with a slower clocked inferior cpu when crossfire is known to need a bit more cpu grunt for proper scaling right? eitherway dosent matter much sure performance in on Nvidias side sadly no matter what gpu you go with not a god damn laptop on the market with a high end gpu is gonna run games that are demanding without being plugged into the wall so in that sense all the laptop fuss is pretty much a waste as far as i am concerned a mid range 5670m or nvidia 250m or w.e it is is more then enough for what a gaming laptop would be as anything higher means you might as well just use a damn desktop cause the laptops probably gonna melt a plastic table or burn your balls either of which is gonna suck :roll:

btarunrOnly NVIDIA GPUs support NVIDIA Optimus technology, which enables extra-long battery life by automatically switching on and off the GPU so that it runs only when needed. Introduced less than a year ago, NVIDIA Optimus is now designed into over 80% of 500M Series notebooks across leading OEMs.

Wut? Apple have had that for years in software...

Red_MachineWut? Apple have had that for years in software...

lol, don't fall for the marketing BS. Apple might have had equivalents (or even better) but not Nvidia Optimus.

crazyeyesreaperand wolf yea the sli wins but you did notice through the entire review your comparing the 460m with a superior cpu against the 5870m with a slower clocked inferior cpu when crossfire is known to need a bit more cpu grunt for proper scaling right? eitherway dosent matter much sure performance in on Nvidias side sadly no matter what gpu you go with not a god damn laptop on the market with a high end gpu is gonna run games that are demanding without being plugged into the wall so in that sense all the laptop fuss is pretty much a waste as far as i am concerned a mid range 5670m or nvidia 250m or w.e it is is more then enough for what a gaming laptop would be as anything higher means you might as well just use a damn desktop cause the laptops probably gonna melt a plastic table or burn your balls either of which is gonna suck :roll:

Yep, you got it. there is little point in comparing the performance of laptops that can only function in a refrigerator.

damn right i mean im sure that i can find a use for one of these hot running bastards maybe i can use it to make a grilled cheese? set the laptop on top for a few minutes flip the sandwich do the other side or hell maybe if i want warm poptarts for breakfast... you know what i want a rediculously hot pile of shit laptop with dual gpus just so i can cook shit under it while i game.

Imsochoboit is a fail, they dont top out ati in performance, yet higher power consumtion.
Our mobile workstations at work, ATI.
we still run nvidia for desktop workstations, but nvidia have shown decreasing in its driver department.
Unfortunately :(

Hmmm, I saw a benchmark for workstation using ATi and Nvidia card some time ago, it showed that the 5xxx based ATi consistently losing to the Fermi based Nvidia by a huge margin (but of course, Nvidia is about $1000 more expensive). If you follow the link, you will see that the Nvidia's top end GPU beats the Ati's top end GPU, and TDP is limited to 100w in both cases, actual power consumption I am not sure. I am pretty sure that the GF104 based Nvidia Mobile is much better than the desktop counterparts due to binning process though.

but again in the reviews posted above they paired the 5800m with a cpu with HALF the ability at least when looking the sandra tests.

and it seriously depends on app fourstaff but in general I can go spend $40 on a 3850 soft mod it to a Fire GL card and make any regular hd 4000 5000 6000 or nvidia gt200 or 400 or 500 look like shit lol its all semantics really when it comes to workstation performance


good example of what i mean
v8800 is $1160 - basically a 5870 with 2gb of memory with special drivers aka 1600 shaders
quadro4800 $1550 basically based off the GTX 260 192core model
now depending what 3d app your using 1 card tends to wallop the other substantially at least in workstation situations where these cards are targeted that send no regular desktop card gets anywhere close performance wise simply do to drivers. It should also be noted in that price segment when AA is added for 3d work loads the ATI/AMD card tends to decimate Nvidia soundly
www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=893&type=expert&pid=4

so again depends on what you need want and can get in that sense price wise nvidia is a full DX generation behind and loses badly at the same high end workstation price point. which is why i find it funny on these forums everyone and there mom in other threads keeps recommending Nvidia for 3d work when if i look above its not as landslide as there little mind thinks granted what do i know i use those apps daily :roll: That said this is a mobile gpu situation and in that market Nvidias Quadros are more widespread on the mobile platform then FireGL and yes in that sense they wallop AMD up down and sideways.

www.tomshardware.com/reviews/quadro-fx-4800,2258-5.html

even at the highest end of workstation cards in Maya the most dominate 3d Platform in terms of the movie industry and special effects in general the ATi cards hand nvidia there asses but if we swap to 3dsmax it changes again depends on APP should be noted that Maya 3dsMax XSI etc all are created and marketed by Autodesk but each has a different render engine under the hood displaying everything we see and like a game engine it responds to some hardware better then others.

also pay close attention to the V7700 as the 3850 could be softmodded via drivers into a v7700 and that means that $40 softmodded card can still go toe to toe with the $3000 big boys just it lacks the memory which is the only major draw back.

not trying to jump down your throat Fourstaff just figured you might find some of this interesting as i do.

but yea no one doing workstation projects would use any regular gpu for that situation a quadro 4800 is based on the GTX 280 but in that same sense in the same 3d work loads the quadro is 10x faster then the gtx 280 same applies to current gen cards as well a gtx 580 will still lose in workstation situation to a softmodded 3850 which is about the cheapest way to get a workstation gpu :toast: