Thursday, January 13th 2011

Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II

Here, take some salt. AMD reportedly gave out performance figures in a presentation to its partners, performance figures seen by DonanimHaber. It is reported that an 8-core processor based on the "Bulldozer" high-performance CPU architecture is pitched by its makers to have 50% higher performance than existing processors such as the Core i7 950 (4 cores, 8 threads), and Phenom II X6 1100T (6 cores). Very little is known about the processor, including at what clock speed the processor was running at, much less what other components were driving the test machine.

Taking this information into account, the said Bulldozer based processor should synthetically even outperform Core i7 980X six-core, Intel's fastest desktop processor in the market. Built from ground-up, the Bulldozer architecture focuses on greater inter-core communication and reconfigured ALU/FPU to achieve higher instructions per clock cycle (IPC) compared to the previous generation K10.5, on which its current Phenom II series processors are based. The processor is backed by new 9-series core logic, and a new AM3+ socket. AMD is expected to unveil this platform a little later this year.Source: DonanimHaber
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424 Comments on Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II

#2
suraswami
I am going to take Yoga classes now!
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Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
all you have to do is read a few business articles of late to understand that AMD is still a mess. right now they could not manage their way out of a wet paper bag. bulldozer is most likely a great chip and the engineers should be proud of the work they have done. however, management will screw up the launch and the marketing and it will be just another flop from the consumer stand point. the only way AMD is going to change and be more competitive with intel is when they finally get some real leadership. :shadedshu
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TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: Easy Rhino
all you have to do is read a few business articles of late to understand that AMD is still a mess. right now they could not manage their way out of a wet paper bag. bulldozer is most likely a great chip and the engineers should be proud of the work they have done. however, management will screw up the launch and the marketing and it will be just another flop from the consumer stand point. the only way AMD is going to change and be more competitive with intel is when they finally get some real leadership. :shadedshu
As right as you may be I miss the old Easy Rhino. You seem more negative lately. I sense a lot of negative waves man. Would infracting me make you feel better?
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#5
LGV
I Want A Bulldozer With A Wrecking Ball!!! :rockout:
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#6
sunil
It would likely have an edge in heavily multitask ed / multithreaded environments, and that's why it will be a GREAT processor for servers.

I kind of doubt it will outperform any Core i7 8xx or 9xx for desktop applications
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#7
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
by: sunil
It would likely have an edge in heavily multitask ed / multithreaded environments, and that's why it will be a GREAT processor for servers.

I kind of doubt it will outperform any Core i7 8xx or 9xx for desktop applications
what about video encoding cause the 1090T already holds its own in that
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#8
kaneda
by: sunil
It would likely have an edge in heavily multitask ed / multithreaded environments, and that's why it will be a GREAT processor for servers.

I kind of doubt it will outperform any Core i7 8xx or 9xx for desktop applications
Desktop applications? Like what? Microsoft Word? Firefox?

core 2's will handle that as good as any nehalem/sb chip...

Photoshop/Blender/Maya/Premier Pro/ETC are for digital content creation, therefore workstation applications. Workstation applications, for the most part, benefit greatly from additional cores.
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#9
GSG-9
Thanks for the facts JF-AMD, I appreciate your jumping in and the insight into the layout an design of the new series.
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Makaveli
by: TheMailMan78
I want AMD to pull this off more then ever. Just so it will crush your e-peen.
Laugh the error in your judgement is you think i'm some kind of intel fan boy.

When i've owned more AMD system than intel.

This is only my second intel rig.

I'm sorry but I don't do wishful thinking all I care about is fact and numbers. And until I see actual benchmark numbers this is just marketing bs.

My money goes to performance not who's brand is on the chip I could careless if it said Via on the chip aslong as the performance is there and it fits my budget.
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#11
fullinfusion
1.21 Gigawatts
I cant wait to see the real time numbers, it's going to be interesting no doubt!
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#12
TheLaughingMan
Yeah! Truth and some decent info. about the server chips. Nice.

I don't know JF-AMD, but nice of him to drop by with some wisdom and correct some stuff for us (especially me).

Now, lets discuss chocolate chip cookies and how AMD should have coupons for free Chips Ahoy with every processor.
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#13
Makaveli
Has there been a solid launch date set for BD yet or is it still H2 2011?
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#14
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: Makaveli
Laugh the error in your judgement is you think i'm some kind of intel fan boy.

When i've owned more AMD system than intel.

This is only my second intel rig.

I'm sorry but I don't do wishful thinking all I care about is fact and numbers. And until I see actual benchmark numbers this is just marketing bs.

My money goes to performance not who's brand is on the chip I could careless if it said Via on the chip aslong as the performance is there and it fits my budget.
Someones e-peen is already hurting. Better get the prep-H ready.
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#15
erocker
by: TheMailMan78
Someones e-peen is already hurting. Better get the prep-H ready.
I'm about to go postal on a certain mail man. :) Keep on topic. Last warning.
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#16
Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
by: Makaveli
Laugh the error in your judgement is you think i'm some kind of intel fan boy.

When i've owned more AMD system than intel.

This is only my second intel rig.

I'm sorry but I don't do wishful thinking all I care about is fact and numbers. And until I see actual benchmark numbers this is just marketing bs.

My money goes to performance not who's brand is on the chip I could careless if it said Via on the chip aslong as the performance is there and it fits my budget.
This. I have as much love/hate for AMD as I do for Intel. I just know that Intel has given me more to be excited about over the last several years. Marketing BS is just that, BS. I really don't understand any of the fanboy mentality or allegiance to any one company. Make decisions based on performance and your own needs, then spend your money accordingly.
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#17
Makaveli
That's because the Fanboy mentality is mostly from children who feel the need to 'big up' their purchases or who suffer from buyer remorse.

At the end of the day niether intel or AMD care about you they just want your money, these are processor companies not basketball or baseball teams your loyalty is wasted on them.

But to stay on topic i'm looking forward to the upcoming battle with BD and SB-E which I believe will be the true monster in the second half of this year. So marketing BS aside we all have to wait alittle longer.
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#18
TheLaughingMan
by: Makaveli
That's because the Fanboy mentality is mostly from children who feel the need to 'big up' their purchases or who suffer from buyer remorse.

At the end of the day niether intel or AMD care about you they just want your money, these are processor companies not basketball or baseball teams your loyalty is wasted on them.

But to stay on topic i'm looking forward to the upcoming battle with BD and SB-E which I believe will be the true monster in the second half of this year. So marketing BS aside we all have to wait alittle longer.
Basketball and baseball teams don't care about you either Makaveli. They just want your money too and more of it. AMD/Intel want to sell me like 2 or 3 processors. Sports wants to sell me clothes, jerseys, drinks, drink bottles, vitamins, movies, TV commercial time, etc. Processor companies are more honest about what they want from you.
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#19
KieX
Nice to have some good informative posts from JF-AMD in here.

I do hope these Bulldozers turn out to be good enough to have direct competition against Intel across the market from the low end to the high end. If performance and cost end up with a nice balance it can only be a win situation for us consumers.
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Imsochobo
by: Makaveli
That's because the Fanboy mentality is mostly from children who feel the need to 'big up' their purchases or who suffer from buyer remorse.

At the end of the day niether intel or AMD care about you they just want your money, these are processor companies not basketball or baseball teams your loyalty is wasted on them.

But to stay on topic i'm looking forward to the upcoming battle with BD and SB-E which I believe will be the true monster in the second half of this year. So marketing BS aside we all have to wait alittle longer.
everyone caring about market wants amd to win this round...
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#21
Makaveli
by: TheLaughingMan
Basketball and baseball teams don't care about you either Makaveli. They just want your money too and more of it. AMD/Intel want to sell me like 2 or 3 processors. Sports wants to sell me clothes, jerseys, drinks, drink bottles, vitamins, movies, TV commercial time, etc. Processor companies are more honest about what they want from you.
I think there is a fairly big difference between a sports fan and someone that is a cpu fan.

One is alot more real world you follow teams with players real people, that you can connect with or even meet at games. You can bring your family to games its a good way to bond with your family and friends. You ever watched Michael jordan play a game in real life during the 90's when he was at his peek.

There is just that personal side of it you will never get with a piece of silicon.

by: Imsochobo
everyone caring about market wants amd to win this round...
I want amd to produce something competitive so everyone gets reasonable pricing I don't really care about who wins the round.

The only thing I care is my wallet wins and it matches the performance I need.
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#22
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Holy crap, an 8 Core yet to be released chip is 50% faster than a 4 core chip released a year and a half ago! Stop the presses! This is going to be so awesome!

I know this will sound like a shocker too, but did you know the latest 8 Cylinder Mustang has more horse power than the 4 Cylinder Malibu from 2005! Ford is making real breakthroughs, GM should really watch out!:rolleyes:

It is laughable that AMD would even make a big deal out of this and not just hold their heads down in shame.:shadedshu
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#23
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: newtekie1
Holy crap, an 8 Core yet to be released chip is 50% faster than a 4 core chip released a year and a half ago! Stop the presses! This is going to be so awesome!

I know this will sound like a shocker too, but did you know the latest 8 Cylinder Mustang has more horse power than the 4 Cylinder Malibu from 2005! Ford is making real breakthroughs, GM should really watch out!:rolleyes:

It is laughable that AMD would even make a big deal out of this and not just hold their heads down in shame.:shadedshu
Shut up with your damn logic. Let us have the fantasy dammit. Your like the guy in the strip club pointing out the fake boobs!
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#24
semantics
In the words of kyle Bennett from [H]
4. He trolled my review post with a fucking stupid picture of a bulldozer......yeah, keep on dreaming fanboy. I have more faith in the world ending in 2012 than I do AMD pulling off an Intel killer.
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Makaveli
by: TheMailMan78
Shut up with your damn logic. Let us have the fantasy dammit. Your like the guy in the strip club pointing out the fake boobs!
lol that is one of my friends.

In my teens I didn't really care for fake or real.

But now I do I prefer real!

by: semantics
In the words of kyle Bennett from [H]
lol I remember reading that post.
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