Thursday, February 24th 2011

Thunderbolt Technology: The Fastest Data Connection to Your PC Just Arrived

Intel Corporation today announced the availability of Thunderbolt technology, a new high-speed PC connection technology that brings together high-speed data transfer and high-definition (HD) display on to a single cable. Running at 10 Gbps, Thunderbolt technology can transfer a full-length HD movie in less than 30 seconds. This Intel-developed technology is coming to market through a technical collaboration with Apple, and is available first on Apple's new line of MacBook Pro laptop computers.

The vision for Thunderbolt technology (formerly codenamed "Light Peak") is to move media faster, simplify connections between devices, and foster new and exciting ways to build and use PCs. Combining high-speed data and HD video connections together onto a single cable is instrumental to achieving that vision. Thunderbolt technology delivers this via two communications methods, or protocols -- PCI Express for data transfer and DisplayPort for displays.
PCI Express has the flexibility to connect to almost any type of device, and DisplayPort can drive greater than 1080p resolution displays and up to eight channels of audio simultaneously. Thunderbolt technology is compatible with existing DisplayPort displays and adapters. All Thunderbolt technology devices share a common connector, and let individuals simply daisy-chain their devices one after another, connected by electrical or optical cables.

Thunderbolt technology is designed to meet the demands of serious HD media creators. For example, videographers can unleash their creativity using high-bandwidth audio and video capture/mixing devices, and get both low latency and highly-accurate time synchronization for real-time processing. At 10Gbps, larger media files are transferred faster so there's less time spent waiting to watch and edit videos. Data can be backed up and restored quicker, so there's less waiting for archived content. For mobile PC users, it means having a single connector on their ultra-thin laptop that extends their high-speed media and HD display capabilities at home or in the office. Thunderbolt technology is complementary to other I/O technologies that Intel continues to support.

"Working with HD media is one of the most demanding things people do with their PCs," said Mooly Eden, general manager, PC Client Group, Intel. "With Thunderbolt technology, Intel has delivered innovative technology to help professionals and consumers work faster and more easily with their growing collection of media content, from music to HD movies. We've taken the vision of simple, fast transfer of content between PCs and devices, and made it a reality."

"We're thrilled to collaborate with Intel to bring the groundbreaking Thunderbolt technology to Mac users," said Bob Mansfield, Apple's senior vice president of Mac Hardware Engineering. "With ultra-fast transfer speeds, support for high-resolution displays and compatibility with existing I/O technologies, Thunderbolt is a breakthrough for the entire industry and we think developers are going to have a blast with it."

Thunderbolt technology is powered by an Intel controller chip, and uses a small connector suitable for mobile devices that will be included in products supporting the technology. Several innovative companies have announced Thunderbolt technology-based products, or currently plan to support Thunderbolt technology in upcoming products, including Aja, Apogee, Avid, Blackmagic, LaCie, Promise, and Western Digital. Intel is working with the industry on a range of Thunderbolt technology-enabled products including computers, displays, storage devices, audio/video devices, cameras, docking stations and more.
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76 Comments on Thunderbolt Technology: The Fastest Data Connection to Your PC Just Arrived

#51
inferKNOX
I thought that's supposed to be a "don't open this device or you'll get zapped" symbol that Intel has apparently trademarked there. Intel... you plagiariser!!:laugh:
Is there a shortage of design ideas for simple logos for connectors? Seriously though, that means something like 'electric shock'.

I wonder how many n00bs are going to get zapped thinking it's "thunderbolt" and how soon after the law suits will come. I mean... if you can sue Nintendo (Wii) for throwing your control through the TV, then Intel is in for some fun with this...:nutkick:
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#52
Fourstaff
I think we will have to wait for 5 years before we know for sure whether Thunderbolt will be a success or not. My definition of successs: Get all the major producers to use Thunderbolt, from AMD to ZTE.
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#53
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
yeah, thunderbolt only wins out if intel lets everyone use it, much like how third party board makers used addon cards for USB 3.0.



i want magic like the following:

PC is connected to HDTV via DP/TB.
TV is connected to speakers, games consoles, and all else shiny via DP/TB.

i want them to link up like HDMI can these days - so that those devices can all control each other. the consoles get internet acess via the networked DP devices (PC, in this case). the PC, TV and consoles can all control the volume on the speakers.


I WANT A MAGIC ALL IN ONE CONNECTION THAT TRULY INTEGRATES DEVICES. If TB doesnt deliver this, i'll just have to wait another 15 years or so, i guess...
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#54
SvB4EvA
inferKNOXI thought that's supposed to be a "don't open this device or you'll get zapped" symbol that Intel has apparently trademarked there. Intel... you plagiariser!!:laugh:
Is there a shortage of design ideas for simple logos for connectors? Seriously though, that means something like 'electric shock'.
www.safety.vanderbilt.edu/training/hazcom/images/symbol_electricshock.gif
I wonder how many n00bs are going to get zapped thinking it's "thunderbolt" and how soon after the law suits will come. I mean... if you can sue Nintendo (Wii) for throwing your control through the TV, then Intel is in for some fun with this...:nutkick:
LOL, so much this... :rockout:
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#55
inferKNOX
PVTCaboose1337That is really, really dumb. I don't wanna connect my mouse to a printer.
PVTCaboose1337Ports, ports everywhere. The future of computing, from the perspective of Intel, and your future motherboard:

techPowerUp! Forums
Ahhh... ha ha ha ha!! :roll: You've given me a good laugh today!
On a serious note though, at least this will help Displayport 'infiltrate' the market at last.
However, if Intel intends to drive this in a direction as to challenge Ethernet, they're going to make Cisco and the like go ballistic!
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#56
OneCool
Screw all this high speed wired shit.


I want high speed WIRELESS connections please!!





The technology is there why their not utilizing it is beyond me :rolleyes:
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#57
Taer
OneCoolScrew all this high speed wired shit.


I want high speed WIRELESS connections please!!


The technology is there why their not utilizing it is beyond me :rolleyes:
This is mostly for people who want the extra bandwidth.

The maximum you'd get with wireless is 300-500Mbps. That's slower than USB 2.0.
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#58
Fourstaff
TaerIt's called theorizing. Intelligent people can do it. ;)
Its called deluding oneself. Helpless fanboys and lunatics does that all the time.
OneCoolI want high speed WIRELESS connections please!!
Plenty of reason for that, reliability and convenience being the top 2. And also, we have not found a way to efficiently transmit power wirelessly, even though Tesla once tried to do it.
TaerThe maximum you'd get with wireless is 300-500Mbps. That's slower than USB 2.0.
Use MIMO. Your point is invalid.
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#59
OneCool
TaerThe maximum you'd get with wireless is 300-500Mbps. That's slower than USB 2.0.
Yeah now. What would happen if Intel would have invested all this "light peak" money into it.

I think we would be a little further along than 300-500Mps
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#60
freaksavior
To infinity ... and beyond!
TaerHey, I'm new here. I just don't want to get picked on.
Not trying to be a jerk to ya man, and if you thought I was, I really am sorry.Rarely is btarunr, that's all i'm saying.
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#61
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
freaksaviorYou are the one who said this


There is no Firewire at 6,400Mbps
We have no idea what possible specs of usb 4 are, don't start talking about it.
Also you confused the shit out of me. Please just stop talking.

btarunr is right, you are wrong just except it.
accept would be the correct word there
TaerThis is mostly for people who want the extra bandwidth.

The maximum you'd get with wireless is 300-500Mbps. That's slower than USB 2.0.
well to use your words i theorize i could get 400-700Gbps you know smart people can do that
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#62
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Taer:wtf:

Okay, I see who I am talking to here.
So do I. So long, weer.
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#63
hellrazor
I wonder if the HTC ThunderBolt will work with this?
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#64
Unregistered
Does it have fiber optics cables made with copper wire??? :nutkick::nutkick::nutkick::D:D:D:laugh::slap:
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#65
Fourstaff
TAViXDoes it have fiber optics cables made with copper wire???
lol, they decided to use copper cables to start with to simplify the adoption. I think they will migrate to fibre once demand starts to kick in.
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#66
Unregistered
Demand? lol. Even cheapo USB 3.0 is not even 50% used today, what do you need that extra bandwitht for?? External graphic cards??
OneCoolScrew all this high speed wired shit.

I want high speed WIRELESS connections please!!

The technology is there why their not utilizing it is beyond me :rolleyes:
High speed wireless exist from a long time. Just not for average user. Sure, you can have a 10Gbps wireless router in your house, but in less than 2 year you would develop cancer, leukemia, impotence, hear loss, and other nice "effects" from the nice electromagnetic radiation. Hehe. Trust me, I work in the field and studied all those e.m. effects.
No thanks. I'm not even using a 802.11n router in house, not near the baby anyways. ;)
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#67
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Fourstafflol, they decided to use copper cables to start with to simplify the adoption. I think they will migrate to fibre once demand starts to kick in.
The optical and electrical variants are incompatible (because ports on the devices and connectors on the cables have conventional electrical contacts). Once the electrical one is spread across the industry, Intel would have to redo everything all over again to get the optical variant out. Maybe Intel is sand-bagging, maybe the optical variant is better suited for enterprise IO for now, or maybe they got very close to achieving optical-like performance on electrical medium, and opted for electrical since it's more durable.
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#68
[H]@RD5TUFF
TaerI couldn't agree more.

We're going from USB to.. Thunderbolt. Unbelievable.
I'm sure Intel will come up with an acronym for it perhaps LIC (light based interface connector) or some such, which will lead to string of sexual harassment lawsuits in the work place because IT personal will be telling people "hmmmm your LIC port seems to be malfunctioning I will have to play with it a little".:wtf:
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#71
hellrazor
So we're all agreed that there is no reason for thunderbolt to exist?
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#72
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
I continue to disagree. USB 3.0 is already bottlenecked. The evolution of USB 2.0 to USB 3.0 (10x increase in bandwidth) was way too late, and 10 Gb/s sounds like the ideal device interconnect bandwidth for a 2011~2015 setting.

I also don't buy into the "but USB 3.0 is a familiar-looking port with backwards compatibility" argument. If your devices need 5 Gb/s bandwidth, you're anyway going to create a hardware environment around it (i.e. buy a USB 3.0 controller card and compatible devices). So Thunderbolt is no more "unique" than USB 3.0. Besides having 10x less bandwidth doesn't make backwards compatibility a big factor. So USB 3.0's backwards compatibility isn't a huge plus.
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#73
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
i just look at TB as a replacement for E-sata, and it fits nicely with that idea. the extra stuff is just a nice bonus.
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#74
laszlo
nice tech. but as i see i won't be thunderbolted in the next years...
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#75
Fourstaff
btarunrThe optical and electrical variants are incompatible (because ports on the devices and connectors on the cables have conventional electrical contacts). Once the electrical one is spread across the industry, Intel would have to redo everything all over again to get the optical variant out. Maybe Intel is sand-bagging, maybe the optical variant is better suited for enterprise IO for now, or maybe they got very close to achieving optical-like performance on electrical medium, and opted for electrical since it's more durable.
They can always add a dongle in front to convert the electrical signal to optical. I think that's possible anyway. Still, once you have the framework to deal with the Thunderbolt, there is relatively little to change from electrical to optical, just some signalling parts.
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