Monday, March 21st 2011

Single-Slot, Slot-Powered Radeon HD 6850 Surfaces in Asia

Unknown to the west, Hong Kong-based graphics card manufacturer, AFOX, that caters to Far-East markets such as Japan, unveiled a new AMD Radeon HD 6850 1 GB graphics card that sports a single-slot design, and completely relies on the PCI Express slot for power. Most, if not all, Radeon HD 6850 graphics cards feature double-slot coolers, and require a 6-pin PCI-E power input, which is not the case with AFOX' new card.

The AF6850-1024D5S1 from AFOX features a red PCB, a black single slot cooler that covers all of the board's obverse side, and looks to feature a dense heatsink to which air is circulated by a blower. The card uses reference clock speeds of 775 MHz core, 1000 MHz (4.00 GHz GDDR5 effective) memory. The HD 6850 is rated by AMD to have 127W typical max power draw. It would be interesting to see how the card is managing to run the GPU with the slot's 75W. What's more, the card doesn't compromise in the display connectors department, packing one each of DVI, full-size HDMI 1.4a, full-size DisplayPort 1.2, and mini-DisplayPort 1.2. In Japan, the card is priced at 19,780 Yen, which converts to US $245.

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41 Comments on Single-Slot, Slot-Powered Radeon HD 6850 Surfaces in Asia

#1
SetsunaFZero
by: entropy13
OT: Have you checked and posted in a certain nation in the TPU club forum? :p
now i have :D
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#2
newtekie1
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I wouldn't trust this in any motherboard. This card is going to draw way to much power through the PCI-E slot.

I don't see why they didn't just put the PCI-E power connector on the PCB, it has the holes for it already there. Now people are going to be buying the card and then wondering why their PCI-E slots, or ATX Power connector, fried.
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#3
Kitkat
by: Fourstaff
I have a feeling the underclock penalty is going to be quite substantial.
yep. And i don't understand why ppl think they can turn it up when there is no proper cooling sure its cool that its single slot but that's no reason to dance in the street even if your htpc past a certain card its not gonna matter. And if your slots block electrically that doesn't mean previously blocked slots can be used as YOU intend. Always interesting to see but mass appeal is always low.
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#4
Undead46
Why can't you plug a PCI-E power cable to a single-slot GPU?
My 8600GT is single-slot and requires a PCI-E power cable...
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#6
newtekie1
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by: Undead46
Why can't you plug a PCI-E power cable to a single-slot GPU?
My 8600GT is single-slot and requires a PCI-E power cable...
You can, you just can't plug one into this single slot card because there is no connector on it.
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#7
m4gicfour
Was it EVGA that released a slot-power booster? There may finally be an app for that :laugh:

Lol Yep. EVGA.

See HERE
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#8
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
by: m4gicfour
Was it EVGA that released a slot-power booster? There may finally be an app for that :laugh:

Lol Yep. EVGA.

See HERE
does it actually work though. thats the main important question
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#9
m4gicfour
EVGA's adapter? Or the card?

If you're talking about EVGA's adapter, sure it does. There's just never been a need for it till now, or at least only need in specific situations.

This assumes you know nothing about it:
All the EVGA adapter does is provide another path (i.e. more capacity for current) for electricity to flow between the PCIe devices and the PSU, bypassing the already near overloaded ATX connector. If you're overclocking your CPU and have many fans, PCI and PCIe bus powered devices (or out-of-spec PCIe bus-powered devices), it's not unheard of to melt the ATX connector. That's why you don't want to use a 20-pin PSU on a 24-pin mobo. Those extra 4 pins are just more copper for current to flow through, not different rails or anything.

Now we just need to worry about the PCIe slot melting from over-current :roll:

Although AFIK the PCIe connector is over-specced for the current allowed in the PCIe spec.
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#10
Hayder_Master
by: pantherx12
Nice, no power connector is best part.

Hope these get released west side as well, not necessarily by this manufacturer.
in fact i see no PCI-e power connector is most fail point, cuz it's mean take whole power from the motherboard and i don't know what will be happen to performance when u do extreme overclocking for the CPU and RAM, much power mean more load on capacitors and mosfets so that's give u more heat and make those dead as lower than life time expect, only extreme motherboards can help in this case cuz it's have too many capacitors and mosfets.

by: SetsunaFZero
too bad 6850series have only one cf connector
yeah so some products do some mods, as i hear galaxy will do GTX460 with tri SLI so things like this kill high end card's cuz u didn't need to upgrade just adding more cards.
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#11
TIGR
by: hayder.master
make it run as quad crossfire and it will be useful
Except that you'd be asking for trouble making the motherboard power four of these.
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#12
Mussels
Moderprator
by: TIGR
Except that you'd be asking for trouble making the motherboard power four of these.
yep. you'd need a board with extra power to the PCI-E slots for sure.

thankfully, those are fairly common.
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#14
Hayder_Master
by: TIGR
Except that you'd be asking for trouble making the motherboard power four of these.
by: Mussels
yep. you'd need a board with extra power to the PCI-E slots for sure.

thankfully, those are fairly common.
right and i point for that in post 36

by: hayder.master
in fact i see no PCI-e power connector is most fail point, cuz it's mean take whole power from the motherboard and i don't know what will be happen to performance when u do extreme overclocking for the CPU and RAM, much power mean more load on capacitors and mosfets so that's give u more heat and make those dead as lower than life time expect, only extreme motherboards can help in this case cuz it's have too many capacitors and mosfets.



yeah so some products do some mods, as i hear galaxy will do GTX460 with tri SLI so things like this kill high end card's cuz u didn't need to upgrade just adding more cards.
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#15
TIGR
by: hayder.master
in fact i see no PCI-e power connector is most fail point, cuz it's mean take whole power from the motherboard and i don't know what will be happen to performance when u do extreme overclocking for the CPU and RAM, much power mean more load on capacitors and mosfets so that's give u more heat and make those dead as lower than life time expect, only extreme motherboards can help in this case cuz it's have too many capacitors and mosfets.
To the best of my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong), 12v (and 3.3v) power for the PCIe slots does not go through any caps or MOSFETS on the motherboard—those are for CPU, RAM, etc. The main problem here is that you can only channel so much power through the 4pin/8pin adnd 20pin/24pin motherboard power connectors, as well as through the motherboard traces. Some boards have supplemental power connectors for those running multiple high-draw PCIe cards.
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#16
Hayder_Master
by: TIGR
To the best of my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong), 12v (and 3.3v) power for the PCIe slots does not go through any caps or MOSFETS on the motherboard—those are for CPU, RAM, etc. The main problem here is that you can only channel so much power through the 4pin/8pin adnd 20pin/24pin motherboard power connectors, as well as through the motherboard traces. Some boards have supplemental power connectors for those running multiple high-draw PCIe cards.
maybe, and maybe in wrong :confused:
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