Thursday, June 23rd 2011

PCI Takes on Thunderbolt, Big Worries for its Promoters

Did you know what lies behind the USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt controller? It's of course the bus that connects it to the rest of the system, PCI-Express. It is the 500 MB/s per lane interconnect that is indirectly responsible for the awesome bandwidth that today's plug and play interfaces such as eSATA 6 Gb/s, USB 3.0, and Thunderbolt 10 Gb/s enjoy. What if you could eliminate the protocol overhead that comes with any of those protocols, and make PCI-Express directly an interconnect? So thought the PCI Special Interest Group (SIG), the body that decides the fate of PCI. The SIG is planning to create a cabled version of PCI-Express Gen 3, that has no secondary protocol overhead, not even of the kind Infiniband has.

A single PCI-Express 3.0 lane can provide 8 Gbps (1 GB/s) of bandwidth in each direction, the new cabled interconnect can supply bandwidth of four Gen 3 lanes, totaling 32 Gbps, over three times that of the current version of Thunderbolt. Apart from that bandwidth, cabled PCI-E will be designed to supply 20W of power to its devices, plenty of power for even a small 3-bay HDD rack. The connector itself will be designed to be very compact and flat, so it can be fitted into notebooks and tablets. PCI SIG plans to have the first specifications of cabled PCI-Express ready before June 2013. By 2013, Intel will be about 2 years away from releasing its proposed 50 Gbps version of Thunderbolt, but even then, Thunderbolt is an additional protocol that sits over the system bus (again, PCI-Express), unless Intel designs Thunderbolt controllers to somehow talk to CPU over QPI.
Source: EETimes
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28 Comments on PCI Takes on Thunderbolt, Big Worries for its Promoters

#26
Yukikaze
OneCoolAnd there never will be if they keep blowing all the investment money on stupid crap like this.
Do you have any idea what is being developed, by whom and where, or do you have anything to help you prove that high speed interconnects prevent funds from reaching high-speed wireless communications research?

Blanket statements are cheap and plentiful, but provide little basis for discussion.
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#27
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
OneCool:laugh:


Little bit late in the game to worrying about that dont you think?
That's what aluminium foil hats are for! :D
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#28
Thatguy
FordGT90ConceptPCI Express is meant for data transfer distances of 1 foot or less. It also rapidly consumes IRQs. The reason USB and Thunderbolt exists is to allow data transfer over the distance of yards, not feet, and also reduce the load on internal components of the computer by making each hub handle some of the load. I can't see a PCI Express "cable" working very well for these reasons.
Yeah I always have my machine 40 feet from the device I am using. wait a minute, I don't.

I only see one real good application for thunderbolt. High resolution cameras streaming to the pc for video capture.
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