Thursday, September 8th 2011

November 15 Launch Date for Sandy Bridge-E

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Even as AMD struggles to get its FX series processors out, and into to the market, Intel seems to be doing the opposite: trying to get Sandy Bridge-E (enthusiast) out as quickly as possible. The new high-end desktop/workstation platform was slated for December, and then there was news that chipset delays could push it into 2012. Fresh news pin-points the launch date to Week 46 of 2011, more specifically, November 15. On that day, Intel will have processors as well as compatible Desktop Board products (Intel-branded motherboards) out in the markets, ready for purchase. Ideally, motherboard vendors should have their socket LGA2011 products stocked up by then, too.

Intel will begin the Sandy Bridge-E platform with Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 6-core Unlocked processor, Core i7-3930K 6-core Unlocked processor, and Core i7-3820 4-core processor. Intel X79 Express is the De facto desktop chipset. The first compatible Intel Desktop Board products include DX79SI, and DX79TO.
Source: DonanimHaber

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77 Comments on November 15 Launch Date for Sandy Bridge-E

#27
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Yup, Intel piling on the pressure, even before Bulldozer comes out and even if it doesn't perform that well.

This is why the advice is to wait until the Bulldozer series have all been released and the prices have settled.

I just wish that Intel and AMD were equal competitors rather than AMD being so much weaker and being forced into the "value" range. You'd then see leapfrogging performance with each generation and strong competition.
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#29
ensabrenoir
What is this nonesense! Early relases? Actual release dates? Bench marks? Unheard of!!!! Intel ....what u doing? Someone must get to the bottom of this!!! Where is my pain? Where is my heartbreak? Where is my disapointment? Where..... is my credit card! This so rules! :rockout:
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#30
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
SAS integrated into the chipset? Hot damn! :D
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#31
HossHuge
pantherx12Why is this bit even in a news post?

AMD didn't even release an actual date right so who's to say their struggling, we all get told to stop speculating and yet the speculation is in the very news posts we read :laugh:.
Gotta agree with you pantherx12. News people should not give their opinions in stories.

I hope this drives the prices of the current generation cause I might go Intel soon. Depending of course on the price/preformance of BD.
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#32
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
HossHugeGotta agree with you pantherx12. News people should not give their opinions in stories.
He's sentence was factual, we have heard multiple launch dates in the past from AMD themselves, but they have consistently pushed those dates. As opposed to Intel that has been keeping very tight lips on most details, we are just now hearing a solid launch from them for Sandy Bridge-E.

I think the tick-tock cycle really helps Intel a lot.
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#33
brandonwh64
Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!
socket 2011 will be great along with bulldozer. will this change things, yes! If they release at the same time then AMD may have some issues with sales unless they lower prices a good bit.
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#34
Crap Daddy
There will be no connection between sales for SB-E and BD, they are in different leagues. All the hints we had until now is that top desktop bulldozer will retail at around 300$ while I expect that the cheapest SB-E launched this year will be well over this price point. We can only speculate that BD can't smoke SB (hence the price asked) but will compete on a fair level. SB-E is high-end and comes with a price.
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#35
HossHuge
CDdude55He's sentence was factual, we have heard multiple launch dates in the past from AMD themselves, but they have consistently pushed those dates.
If BD comes out and blows everything away, would you say that they were struggling to release it?

Now, I have now idea if this the case but until it happens it is speculation/opinion.
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#36
jpierce55
1/2 or more of the BD news posts have been FUD, nothing official. Nearly all of them should have been locked after a few posts because of the crazy and wild speculations.

In no way shape of form do I believe BD will compete with SB-E, but since the giveaway said a $300 value I am hoping it is a competent performer for the price.
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#37
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
HossHugeIf BD comes out and blows everything away, would you say that they were struggling to release it?
Yes i would still say the same thing, because performance is irrelevant. If BD comes out and is a performance monster, that'd be great. But what is factual is factual, they've been slipping in terms of a solid market launch.

Performance wise, as mentioned before, they're really catering towards different markets, AMD has been a hit with regards to price for performance as opposed to Intel where you're getting a lot of power for a higher cost. It's been that way since about the Core 2 Duo era, and only AMD has the power to change that, but from the looks of it, i think that BD will be able to compete well with Sandy Bridge, but that the Socket 2011 Sandy Bridge chips will once again rule over AMD in terms of performance
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#38
faramir
HossHugeIf BD comes out and blows everything away, would you say that they were struggling to release it?

Now, I have now idea if this the case but until it happens it is speculation/opinion.
If BD was capable of "blowing everything away" as you put it they would have released it back in early summer. AMD's own claims put BD IPC performance roughly on par with previous generation, with speedup in total processing power coming from extra cores (proportional to the number of cores added). If that is indeed the case there won't be much blowing everything away, it'll be just blowing.

I *really* hope this additional delay will allow BD to improve in a manner similar to Phenom -> Phenom II transition (squashing the TLB bug). This would imply better IPC than previous generation, higher clock rate and more cores. If they manage to keep power consumption at bay they can still compete with Intel.
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#39
Red_Machine
CDdude55From the looks of it, i think that BD will be able to compete well with Sandy Bridge
It was intended to compete with the Nehalem chips. I imagine AMD would have done something to change that by now, but as it is, Intel will have released Sandybridge-E by the time Bulldozer comes out (and, if AMDs release date reputation still holds, maybe even Ivy Bridge) which will make it several generations late to the party.
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#40
xenocide
Intel is putting AMD between a rock and a hard place. It's already noticeable on these forums, an increasing number of people are just tired of waiting and buying Intel CPU's already, and if BD isn't on par for SB CPU's, AMD really has no corner on any part of the market (aside from APU's for Laptops\Netbooks).
Red_MachineIt was intended to compete with the Nehalem chips. I imagine AMD would have done something to change that by now, but as it is, Intel will have released Sandybridge-E by the time Bulldozer comes out (and, if AMDs release date reputation still holds, maybe even Ivy Bridge) which will make it several generations late to the party.
AMD--Generation's behind, Month's later, but only 80% the cost!

:shadedshu
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#41
Damn_Smooth
faramirIf BD was capable of "blowing everything away" as you put it they would have released it back in early summer. AMD's own claims put BD IPC performance roughly on par with previous generation, with speedup in total processing power coming from extra cores (proportional to the number of cores added). If that is indeed the case there won't be much blowing everything away, it'll be just blowing.
Show me where AMD said this. I could save you the time and tell you that you are making this up on your own but I find it funnier to send you on an endless internet search that will stop you from posting nonsense for a while.
I *really* hope this additional delay will allow BD to improve in a manner similar to Phenom -> Phenom II transition (squashing the TLB bug). This would imply better IPC than previous generation, higher clock rate and more cores. If they manage to keep power consumption at bay they can still compete with Intel.
This delay has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with making enough product.

O.T. When was the last time Donanimhaber posted something credible?
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#42
[H]@RD5TUFF
Awesome sauce I am saving my nickels and dimes now, I see trouble looming in November for AMD.
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#43
kenkickr
Depending on how Bulldozer does when the gates open I might have an Intel system in my house for the first time in 12 years.
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#44
Millennium
Will X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over :)
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#45
[H]@RD5TUFF
MillenniumWill X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over :)
No, 2 very different platforms.
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#46
n-ster
MillenniumWill X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over :)
Ivy Bridge will come to X79 in a year or so apparently
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#47
arnoo1
MillenniumWill X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over :)
Nope , new socket, new chip new architecture
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#48
[H]@RD5TUFF
n-sterIvy Bridge will come to X79 in a year or so apparently
source ?
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#49
repman244
[H]@RD5TUFFsource ?
Ivy is more or less a die shrink of SB, and will probably come to X79 eventually.
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#50
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
MillenniumWill X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over :)
Ivy Bridge is for LGA 1155 socket and X79 will be LGA 2011 so they aren't compatible.
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