Thursday, November 10th 2011

Everything You Need To Know About GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores

On the 29th of this month, NVIDIA will launch its newest graphics card SKU, the GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores. We got our first sniff of it last month. Today we present to you all the specifications that matter: clock speeds, voltages, device IDs, etc., but first a brief history. NVIDIA launched the original GeForce GTX 560 Ti back in January, based on its spanking new GF114 silicon. It packed 384 CUDA cores, a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface, 1 GB of memory, high clock speeds, and fairly decent overclocking potential. AMD's Radeon HD 6870 was "pwned" (NVIDIA's words). But then, AMD managed to work closely with its partners to create a 1 GB version of its Radeon HD 6950 graphics card. Coupled with diligent component cost balancing, AMD was able to neuter GTX 560 Ti to a good extant. With the upcoming winter shopping season, NVIDIA does not want to take any chances with its competitiveness in the $250-ish "sweetspot" segment, and hence it had to redesign the GTX 560 Ti.

The new GeForce GTX 560 Ti will come with "448 Cores" brand extension, and as it suggests, the GPU now has 448 CUDA cores as opposed to 384 cores on the original. The new SKU will use the same silicon on which the GTX 570, GTX 580, and dual-GPU GTX 590 are based: GF110. The chip will carry the marking "GF110-270-A1". Apart from the 448 CUDA cores, the new SKU will have a memory bus width of 320-bit, and standard memory amount of 1280 MB, just like the GTX 570. The GTX 560 Ti Core 448 has clock speeds of 732 MHz core, 1464 MHz CUDA cores or shaders, and 950 MHz actual (1900 MHz DDR, or 3.80 GHz GDDR5 effective) memory clock speed. So the only thing that sets the new GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores from GTX 570 is the CUDA core count (448 vs. 480 on the GTX 570).

Moving on to core voltage NVVDD, the GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores has a similar range to the GTX 570, that's 0.950V to 1.100V ± 1%. The card will draw power from two 6-pin connectors. It's not likely that there will be a NVIDIA-reference board design, but even if there is, it will use a cost-effective cooler, similar to EVGA's GTX 570 HD. As for price, SweClockers suggests that it would be exactly in the middle of the price points GTX 560 Ti 384 cores and GTX 570 occupy.Source: SweClockers

Update: After our post on Nov 08, we realised our table could ruffle some feathers at NVIDIA. So we momentarily took the story down and waited for some other source to post news with information resembling ours (yet not citing us). We could count on our pals at SweClockers for something like that.
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38 Comments on Everything You Need To Know About GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores

#1
borden5
so they want to compete with their own 570 basically ?
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#2
Scatler


That's all i have to say.
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#4
yogurt_21
so it's essentially a gtx 470+

if it clocks well it should be a solid performer.
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#5
arroyo
NVIDIA "The Way It's Meant To Be Renamed"

I just hate when they do that!
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#6
arnoo1
I, want, benchmarks!!! And price in euro's
The card will be awesome!
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#7
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Made visible again, with updated info.
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#8
devguy
This is the nVidia thing to do when the competition gets too fierce for a certain part.

1) 2900XT vs 8800GTS 640 - The 8800GTS was the better performer when the 2900XT launched, but better drivers from AMD eventually led to a match, and nVidia rereleased the 8800GTS with 112 shaders (but at least they told partners to label it the SSC edition)

2) 4870 vs GTX260 - The GTX260 launched first, and not expecting the powerful card that was the 4870 (which got even better with newer drivers), nVidia freaked out and rereleased the GTX260 with 216 shaders (no new name or suffix)

3) Now the same deal with the 1GB 6950 is freaking nVidia out as it is priced similarly to the GTX560 TI, and often is able to outperform it.

This tactic is certainly nice for people who purchase the card later in its lifetime, but it certainly is confusing, and I bet if I was an early adopter of these cards, I might be a little miffed by this.
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Trackr
by: devguy
This is the nVidia thing to do when the competition gets too fierce for a certain part.

1) 2900XT vs 8800GTS 640 - The 8800GTS was the better performer when the 2900XT launched, but better drivers from AMD eventually led to a match, and nVidia rereleased the 8800GTS with 112 shaders (but at least they told partners to label it the SSC edition)
No, AMD took the 2900XT from 80nm to 55nm and called it 3870.
That's what made nVidia release the G92 cards, the 8800 GT with 112 SPs and the 8800 GTS 512 with 128.

by: devguy

2) 4870 vs GTX260 - The GTX260 launched first, and not expecting the powerful card that was the 4870 (which got even better with newer drivers), nVidia freaked out and rereleased the GTX260 with 216 shaders (no new name or suffix)
Yes, but in this case, there is a GTX 270 (GTX 570).

There is really little point to releasing a GTX 560 Ti with as many SPs as a GTX 570 and calling it a GTX 560.
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#10
yogurt_21
by: Trackr
No, AMD took the 2900XT from 80nm to 55nm and called it 3870.
That's what made nVidia release the G92 cards, the 8800 GT with 112 SPs and the 8800 GTS 512 with 128.
no, both of those came after what he's talking about and nvidia had no reason to worry then, the 8800gt was more than enough to beat the 3870
http://www.gpureview.com/geforce-8800-gts-112-card-545.html
640MB, 112 shaders, launched well before the 8800gt and 512MB 8800gts

by: Trackr

Yes, but in this case, there is a GTX 270 (GTX 570).

There is really little point to releasing a GTX 560 Ti with as many SPs as a GTX 570 and calling it a GTX 560.
gtx275 is what you're looking for and again that came well after the gtx260 216 shader version (as opposed to the original 192 shaders)

also the GTX560 TI has 448 shaders, the same amount as the GTX470, the GTX570 has 480 shaders, the same amount as the GTX 480

the 570 is a blend of the shader count and TMU count of the GTX480 with the memory amount, memory bitrate, and thus ROP count of the GTX470.

The GTX 560TI is essentially a redesigned GTX470 with upped clock speeds

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4051/nvidias-geforce-gtx-570-filling-in-the-gaps
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#11
Casecutter
This has nothing to do with "competition getting fierce", unless you mean "Tahiti"...
Just a way to clear out some binned chips while they have value. But this should've been done Sept-Oct!
It's a little late now... hardly worth dropping $250 when in 1-2 months the GTX570's will be close to that. ;)
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#12
mastrdrver
For $250 you can get a brand new Galaxy GTX 480 on Newegg.
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#13
white phantom
sweet was extremely considering getting a gtx 560ti to retire my wee 9600gt lol but now a might hold off until the new cards and the prices start to roll downwards
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Recus
by: arroyo
NVIDIA "The Way It's Meant To Be Renamed"

I just hate when they do that!
And what have they renamed?
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#15
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
The voices are telling me $270~$290.

by: borden5
so they want to compete with their own 570 basically ?
They want to compete with HD 6950 2GB that are in the $279~$299 range. It will be tough for AMD to drive 2GB's cost below that much (due to memory costs and the basic VRM design required for that GPU).
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#16
badtaylorx
this is stupid.........

X60 lineup should stick to the the gf1X4 chips.......this is just a gimped 570,,,,not a ballz 560
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#17
erocker
by: btarunr
The voices are telling me $270~$290.
Those voices are correct. This card fits in between the 560Ti and the 570.
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#18
EastCoasthandle
What this says to me that nvida isn't ready to release a next gen this year. And they are countering AMD next gen cards.
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#19
Casecutter
by: btarunr
The voices are telling me $270~$290.
Some nice GTX570 are only $20 more than that on Egg right now!

by: EastCoasthandle
What this says to me that nvida isn't ready to release a next gen this year. And they are countering AMD next gen cards.
Well this is less to counteract the competition, but just dumping inventory while it has some merit, and bolster anymore erosion of the 570 - 580 price structure.
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#20
yogurt_21
to me it says "lets burn off some stock" after all once a new gen launches these chips won't be worth much so they're trying to move them out before that happens. These are likely 570's that didn't make the cut or they might even be 570's that did but were crippled. We'll have to see if unlocking is a possibility
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#21
EastCoasthandle
by: Casecutter
Well this is less to counteract the competition, but just dumping inventory while it has some merit, and bolster anymore erosion of the 570 - 580 price structure.
Nah, it's about competition. In this case they are changing sku's here not just making a addition to the lineup. The 6000 series is reaching EOL so it makes no sense for them to compete with it now. What I see is that they are lining up their skus for the 7000 series. I don't see the 560 as the only card getting a new sku.

Furthermore, they could have dump inventory without creating a new sku. ;)
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#22
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
I'll bet money those cores can be unlocked with a simple BIOS update, or not much more. They'll do anything to beat AMD.

Who's with me?
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#23
DarkOCean
Why dont they call this gtx 565 it would make alot more sense.
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#24
_JP_
by: qubit
I'll bet money those cores can be unlocked with a simple BIOS update, or not much more. They'll do anything to beat AMD.

Who's with me?
Stop dreaming. :slap:
This is nVidia we're talking about. If my RAM serves me correctly, as of now, that technique is doable with 3 ATi models (9550 -> 9600; X800PRO -> X800XT and recently HD6950 -> HD6970). I can't recall any nVidia card that could do this.

by: DarkOCean
Why dont they call this gtx 565 it would make alot more sense.
^This.
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#25
Casecutter
by: EastCoasthandle
Nah, it's about competition. In this case they are changing sku's here not just making a addition to the lineup. The 6000 series is reaching EOL so it makes no sense for them to compete with it now. What I see is that they are lining up their skus for the 7000 series. I don't see the 560 as the only card getting a new sku.

Furthermore, they could have dump inventory without creating a new sku. ;)
How do you sell crippled "Cuda Core" chips without a new SKU?

As to unlocking, I don't recall any previous chips (aka GTX260 Core 216) allowing that. While if they where chips that had a full shader count available, Nvidia wouldn't go through the hassle of shut them off, along with going through the trouble of a new release? They’d just dump them on the AIB's and let them go into "de-contented" boards selling them for less but more profits. As for this GTX460 ti 448 version it sounds like what they’ll do to PCB and power section as the article said "It's not likely that there will be a NVIDIA-reference board design". So I read that as de-contented non-reference board and cooler, right there is approximate $25 savings.
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