Tuesday, December 6th 2011

AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series Single-GPU Graphics Card Price-Points Surface

AMD is on course to releasing its latest "Southern Islands" GPU family, and a fleet of desktop graphics card SKUs based on it, which will be led by a new high-performance GPU, codenamed "Tahiti", which will make up Radeon HD 7900 series; followed by performance GPU "Pitcairn", on which HD 7800 series will be based; "Thames" and "Lombok" making up the rest of the lineup. According to a report by DonanimHaber, HD 7970 (working name) is expected to be competitive with (or outperform) GeForce GTX 580, and priced at US $499. The HD 7950 will be competitive with (again, or outperform) GeForce GTX 570, being priced at US $399.

Things get interesting with Pitcairn, which is the successor of "Barts". This performance GPU is designed for sweet-spot SKUs, such as HD 7870 and HD 7850, which will be competitive with GeForce GTX 560 Ti / GTX 560, and priced at US $299 and $199, respectively. The Radeon HD 7670 will be particularly expensive, priced at US $179, followed by HD 7650 at $119. Further, it was reported that HD 7970 and HD 7950 will have a standard memory size of 3 GB.Source: DonanimHaber
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85 Comments on AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series Single-GPU Graphics Card Price-Points Surface

#1
DannibusX
I went through and changed every mention of a 7 series card in my head to Bulldozer and every mention of nVidia to Sandy Bridge E.

Yup, it was fun. Almost like travelling through time.
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#2
BrooksyX
I wonder the power usage will be like. Hopefully I will be able to run one of these with my oced 2500k on my 500w psu.
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#3
btarunr
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by: AltecV1
this is the worst recession after WW2 and these MORONS are ...........
.....giving you GTX 570-like performance under $200. Where's the issue?
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#4
kid41212003
It feels like Call of Duty lately.

New series little improvement.
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#5
WarraWarra
by: AltecV1
are they f..king INSANE...this is the worst recession after WW2 and these MORONS are ...........OMG this pisses me off :mad:
+100
Yup they expect us to pay in for their f* up FX-8150 that is selling like hot cake.
If they keep this up I will seriously start buying NVidia again.
I expect AMD will have the worst Christmas sales because of these prices and their F*upX-8150's.

AMD-tanic "titanic" :banghead:
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WarraWarra
by: btarunr
.....giving you GTX 570-like performance under $200. Where's the issue?
BT, You mean low end NV560 $200 or IGP equivalent ???
The HD 7950 will be competitive with (again, or outperform) GeForce GTX 570, being priced at US $399.
HD 7870 and HD 7850, which will be competitive with GeForce GTX 560 Ti / GTX 560, and priced at US $299 and $199
I can not see anyone stupid enough to buy a weaker card than what they already have and pay $299/$399 for it, that does not make any sense at all. Maybe they can not produce enough volume so they try to price hog the cards until enough products is available.

So much for their 5Dec launch instead of original 9Dec launch.
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#8
phanbuey
this might be true... since this is a new architecture, the performance is probably not huge.

The father of the 5xxx/6xxx GPU series... the 2900XT was a bit similar. Usually new architectures are shaky (post netburst intel excluded).

Prices at launch mean nothing anyway - they are just betting that kepler will be delayed and that they can get a boost off an early launch like with the 5xxx series, they are just gouging a bit since... well... they can. lol.
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#9
xenocide
by: phanbuey
Prices at launch mean nothing anyway - they are just betting that kepler will be delayed and that they can get a boost off an early launch like with the 5xxx series, they are just gouging a bit since... well... they can. lol.
But when Intel or Nvidia do that it's lunacy...
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#10
u2konline
next 2 cards to buy = GTX 550TI 2GB, Diamond 6850.
My current card 5750 can play any game on the market with ease.

The 7000 series are just minor upgrades with a high price. Save your money folks, the 6000 or the 5000 series of cards are not outdated.
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#11
Super XP
by: WarraWarra
+100
Yup they expect us to pay in for their f* up FX-8150 that is selling like hot cake.
If they keep this up I will seriously start buying NVidia again.
I expect AMD will have the worst Christmas sales because of these prices and their F*upX-8150's.

AMD-tanic "titanic" :banghead:
I don't understand your logic :rolleyes:
Benchmarks be damed My FX-8120 is running just fine and does everything it's suppose to do whether it be gaming or video editing. It does it great and it does it fast. And I did not have to pay an arm/leg for it.

The HD 7970 sounds like a lot of money, quite different from the AMD we know of the past. This tells me these cards are going to be bloody fast. I can easily see one single HD 7970 take out a HD 6990 with ease :D
by: u2konline
next 2 cards to buy = GTX 550TI 2GB, Diamond 6850.
My current card 5750 can play any game on the market with ease.

The 7000 series are just minor upgrades with a high price. Save your money folks, the 6000 or the 5000 series of cards are not outdated.
You mean the HD 6000 series was a minor upgrade from the HD 5000 series but with better performance and price. The HD 7000 series is brand new, built from the ground up according to everysingle website and article/blog I've read. If it's a fast card you are looking for it should be the HD 7970's or the NV Kepler a few months after Radeon's release :cool:
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#12
Lionheart
That's an awful card comparison --_--
I don't understand your logic
Benchmarks be damed My FX-8120 is running just fine and does everything it's suppose to do whether it be gaming or video editing. It does it great and it does it fast. And I did not have to pay an arm/leg for it.

The HD 7970 sounds like a lot of money, quite different from the AMD we know of the past. This tells me these cards are going to be bloody fast. I can easily see one single HD 7970 take out a HD 6990 with ease
I agree with you totally ^_^
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#13
1nf3rn0x
I would laugh so hard if someone bought a 7950 with a 32 bit operating system!
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#14
Boomstick777
by: saneyl
Even the GTX590 "3GB" has actually only 1.5GB of vRam. + If you SLi a 1.5GB and 3GB GTX580, you're only gonna use 1.5GB of vRam.
Not sure is serious :wtf:

The GTX 580 '3GB' does have '3GB'!

If you were to crossfire GTX 3GB with GTX 1.5GB it would use the specs of the lower card as this is what happens in Sli/Crossfire it matches the speeds/specs to the lesser card. What your saying is misleading.

The GTX 580 '3GB' still actually has '3GB'. If you were to use 2 x GTX 580 '3GB' than both cards would use the full 3GB each...
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#15
Lipton
I'm getting a SB -> IVB vibe here. Slight increase in performance while cutting the power usage. Let me explain why.

First we need to remember these are 28 nm and that will (hopefully, at least) bring major power savings over 40 nm. Secondly if they can increase performance by 10-15% over the current generation, while cutting the TDP in half (let's hope so :P), that will translate into a huge spike in performance per watt. And people are getting more and more concision about efficiency - it's a good sell. Thirdly from a pure performance/enthusiast standpoint; with crossfire that would mean you get more than double the performance at the same TDP (assuming the above) over the former gen. The 7990 will be truly insane in this regard, I bet.

The vibe from AMD I get with this 'news' is, if they can position themselves at #1 in performance (just slightly) and #1 in efficiency at the same time, they will be very sought after cards. This is also why I believe the prices may be correct (they're #1 in performance) and they need all the margins they can (#1 in efficiency, cheaper to produce thanks to 28 nm) to fill out their bank account. I almost expect a little bigger crossfire/eyefinity push with these cards as well.

And with Nvidia more or less a year away with their next generation, I think they're trying to sell as much as they can to the highest price possible while they're on top.

Though in the end this story may be pure bollocks. :laugh: Would love to get some feedback on my little theory, however. :p
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#16
MatTheCat
by: Lipton
Would love to get some feedback on my little theory, however. :p
U probably hit the nail right on the head.
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#18
Boomstick777
by: saneyl
Maybe you should read my messages more carefully, I stated that a GTX[b]590[b] "3GB" only has 1.5GB of vRam, I didnt talk about GTX580 3GB.
My message was not misleading, you're just a dumb kid.
Yeah I read your message just fine, your forgetting the rest of your post where you say the GTX 3GB doesn't have 3GB, now your trying to make out you didn't say it, you obviously don't what your talking about, just another moronic internet warrior who types a load of BS. and then trys to convince you they didn't.

Keep typing internet warrior :rockout:
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#19
reverze
by: Boomstick777
Yeah I read your message just fine, your forgetting the rest of your post where you say the GTX 3GB doesn't have 3GB, now your trying to make out you didn't say it, you obviously don't what your talking about, just another moronic internet warrior who types a load of BS. and then trys to convince you they didn't.

Keep typing internet warrior :rockout:
he is actually completely correct in what he said, maybe you shouldnt run your mouth when you dont know anything.
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#21
Vancha
by: Boomstick777
Yeah I read your message just fine, your forgetting the rest of your post where you say the GTX 3GB doesn't have 3GB, now your trying to make out you didn't say it, you obviously don't what your talking about, just another moronic internet warrior who types a load of BS. and then trys to convince you they didn't.

Keep typing internet warrior :rockout:
8 and 9...They're different numbers.
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#22
theoneandonlymrk
by: Vancha
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomstick777
Yeah I read your message just fine, your forgetting the rest of your post where you say the GTX 3GB doesn't have 3GB, now your trying to make out you didn't say it, you obviously don't what your talking about, just another moronic internet warrior who types a load of BS. and then trys to convince you they didn't.

Keep typing internet warrior

8 and 9...They're different numbers.
bit off topic and i think your missunderstanding each other a gtx590 with 3 gig (really split into 2x1.5 per gpu tied to a gtx580 3gig in sli(tri) to my thinking too should downgrade the 580 to 1.5 so all 3 gpus have the same vmem im no nvidia guru but sounds about right

and im expecting the 7970 to get about 10%higher performance then a gtx580 as the new archtecture isnt aimed at improveing gfx capabillities as much as it is compute power from what i have read on it:) no great leap just good prep for the future:)
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#23
Lionheart
by: theoneandonlymrk
bit off topic and i think your missunderstanding each other a gtx590 with 3 gig (really split into 2x1.5 per gpu tied to a gtx580 3gig in sli(tri) to my thinking too should downgrade the 580 to 1.5 so all 3 gpus have the same vmem im no nvidia guru but sounds about right

and im expecting the 7970 to get about 10%higher performance then a gtx580 as the new archtecture isnt aimed at improveing gfx capabillities as much as it is compute power from what i have read on it:) no great leap just good prep for the future:)
Lol 10% improvement over the GTX 580, I doubt it, but if that's the case AMD can go SUCK IT! :)
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#24
Casecutter
by: btarunr
.....giving you GTX 570-like performance under $200. Where's the issue?
by: WarraWarra
BT, You mean low end NV560 $200 or IGP equivalent ???

I can not see anyone stupid enough to buy a weaker card than what they already have and pay $299/$399 for it, that does not make any sense at all. Maybe they can not produce enough volume so they try to price hog the cards until enough products is available.

So much for their 5Dec launch instead of original 9Dec launch.
Well if we're to believe that a 78X0 will be on the whole an enhanced version "Cayman", and that presently flanks either side of the GTX570, it's fairly convincing that on 28Nm it will leapfrog the GTX570. With this saying a 7870 is an MSRP of $299; while the 7850 at $199, if those prices hold (normally will adjust down a little after initial release) you see what btarunr said, wouldn’t be that far off base.

Take into account the GTX570 released a year ago "today the 7th", and "supposedly" at $330; although if memory serves me, they were exceptionally difficult to find for the first couple months at anything less than $350-360, while only just lately being sometimes $300'ish after steep rebates. So in about a year’s time AMD has beat what Nvidia offered for the $350 performance mark... does it sound all that great no... But for what will surely be like $270 in couple of months after its release it's good progress for the mainstream. While consider for $170 you’ll have cards that basically equal a reference GTX 570, while doing in with much better perf/watt, things are looking much better for the average gamer.
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#25
Casecutter
Oh another thing... these prices also probably reflect that TSMC's was to increase their price for wafers manufactured using the 28nm process, so there’s that to contend along with their lackluster yields. :cool:
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