Wednesday, April 18th 2012

Core i7-3770K Retail Boxes Pictured, TDP 95W, Overclocks Worse Than Sandy Bridge?

Here are the first pictures of retail boxes of Intel's Core i7-3770K "Ivy Bridge" processors in the LGA1155 package. Pictured below are boxes sourced from a Chinese distributor. Regional branding aside, the box-art hasn't changed from that of the 2nd Generation Core processor family, even the die-shot CGI in the center hasn't changed, which is a missed opportunity. Intel could have used art inspired by the Ivy Bridge silicon, which could have helped identify the new chips easier. The box simply marks the model number "3770K" and socket type "LGA1155" on the key sticker.

The side sticker is where the action is. We know from countless earlier reports, including Intel's RetailEdge marketing material that the TDP rating of "Ivy Bridge" quad-core parts, including the i7-3770K, was rated to be 77W. The sticker on retail i7-3770K, however, tells a different story. The TDP is rated at 95W, on par with previous-generation parts such as i7-2700K. The S-spec number is revealed to be "SR0PL". Before such an important CPU launch as "Ivy Bridge", it's hard to control pre-launch proliferation of retail parts to people who are not NDA signatories. Such people have put the i7-3770K through overclocking, and voices are getting louder that the i7-3770K is a worse overclocker than previous-generation "Sandy Bridge". The chip was found to get too hot, too soon, when overclocking.

Sources: Semi Accurate (forums), NordicHardware
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80 Comments on Core i7-3770K Retail Boxes Pictured, TDP 95W, Overclocks Worse Than Sandy Bridge?

#2
Sasqui
by: Aquinus
You mean it will disappear when Haswell comes around, and even then I don't think that will be the case. You can't break the laws of physics unfortunately.
I suspect a few revs into the IB cycle itself. And typically, you can't break the laws of physics, but you can make new ones up.
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#3
brandonwh64
Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!
I hope intel creates a second stepping like with the I7 920 so the second revision fixes these issues.
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#4
cadaveca
My name is Dave
Good Core2 chips were E0(slacr stepping)

Good 1366 were D0

good SB-E chips are C2

IVB stil lnot great @ E1 says that there are issues, no doubt, but I'm stil lseeing lower-clocked chips performing better than higher clocked SB chips.


At the same time, running hot...I don't care. It's the power consumption, and longevity with those temps that matter, and if these chips can run 105C @ 4.6 GHz for 5 years, but only consumes 125W, then who cares?


Temps coudl simply be faked higher by an DTS offset so that these chips never hit REAL dangerous temps, for all we know that 98C reported is really 68C.
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#5
marsey99
new revision should fix this, i mean its not like its the first time intel have sent out es which did 1 thing and then retailed another revision, nor is it the first time they have sold a hot running monster which was later tamed with a new revision either.

@tehpoll

no if they are the same perf clock for clock but yes if it does enough more with the slower speed to outweigh the difference :thumb:

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by: cadaveca
Good Core2 chips were E0(slacr stepping)

Good 1366 were D0

good SB-E chips are C2

IVB stil lnot great @ E1 says that there are issues, no doubt, but I'm stil lseeing lower-clocked chips performing better than higher clocked SB chips.


At the same time, running hot...I don't care. It's the power consumption, and longevity with those temps that matter, and if these chips can run 105C @ 4.6 GHz for 5 years, but only consumes 125W, then who cares?


Temps coudl simply be faked higher by an DTS offset so that these chips never hit REAL dangerous temps, for all we know that 98C reported is really 68C.
was g0 kents and e1 on the yorks i think as both of those where great es, shit retail then revised.
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#6
cadaveca
My name is Dave
AH, yeah, that could be it, long time ago in the tech world.
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#7
treboRR
2600K will stay in my mobos socket for a while!:nutkick:
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#8
Octavean
All I know is that Microcenter was selling the Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K for ~$200 USD. I would have jumped on it too if I had been in town and able to use my own secure network / connection to make the order. As it stands now the price went back up to ~$279.99 for the 2600K.

So for now I might as well wait to see were prices will be once the Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770K hits retail. If its between ~$200 for the 2600K or ~$279 to ~$320 for the 3770K I think I would go for the 2600K every time.

If they drop the prices for the Sandy Bridge Core i7 3930K a little more though all bets are off,…. Microcenter currently has the Core i7 3930K for ~$499. MSRP is something like ~$555.
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#9
N3M3515
by: Dj-ElectriC
I cannot confirm the same results ATM but all i can say is that my 2500K will stay in it's socket safe and sound.
That's right 2500K bro! :toast:
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#10
Dent1
It's funny how Trickson, the local Intel fanboy has disappeared when there is Intel related bad news?

But he makes an appearance in every AMD thread that pops up just to bash Bulldozer.
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#11
GC_PaNzerFIN
With this mainstream IB being disappointment and graphics card prices off the sky it feels terrible time to even think of getting new hardware. How did it go so bad compared to last year?

Part of me wants to just stick with this 2500k and gtx 460 and shut off my browser so I can't see the new stuff for few months haha. By then I can afford 3930K + X79 + fastest graphics card + new SSD.
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#12
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: Dent1
It's funny how Trickson, the local Intel fanboy has disappeared when there is Intel related bad news?

But he makes an appearance in every AMD thread that pops up just to bash Bulldozer.
Thats forum nature man. Trolls and fanboys will always be that. I just ignore or counter troll. I'm not saying Trickson is one. Just saying its the nature of forums and people in general.

Anyway my 2600K tears up anything I throw at it. Unless its a MASSIVE jump I don't have any reason in the world to change to an Ivy. I mean I was very happy with a 1090T. Got a Sandy now and I couldn't be happier. More then enough for a long time IMO.
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#14
N3M3515
by: GC_PaNzerFIN
With this mainstream IB being disappointment and graphics card prices off the sky it feels terrible time to even think of getting new hardware. How did it go so bad compared to last year?

Part of me wants to just stick with this 2500k and gtx 460 and shut off my browser so I can't see the new stuff for few months haha. By then I can afford 3930K + X79 + fastest graphics card + new SSD.
Why in the world would you change a 2500K?
Massive performance jumps will come from the generation after Ivy B.
That's my point of view, change hardware when there are big differences in performance.
As for graphic cards i change them whe there is something 200% better at the same price or max $30 pricier.

I don't see the point in changing to something 10 - 15% better.
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#15
ensabrenoir
Sandy bridge e looking better and better.......just hoped intel didnt intentional nerf ivory just so it wouldnt out perform sbe and render it irrellevant. Amd ..........naaah still at least 2 years away and focusing on other things right now.
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#16
fullinfusion
1.21 Gigawatts
by: TheMailMan78
Thats forum nature man. Trolls and fanboys will always be that. I just ignore or counter troll. I'm not saying Trickson is one. Just saying its the nature of forums and people in general.

Anyway my 2600K tears up anything I throw at it. Unless its a MASSIVE jump I don't have any reason in the world to change to an Ivy. I mean I was very happy with a 1090T. Got a Sandy now and I couldn't be happier. More then enough for a long time IMO.
I second that! :toast:
Buuuut... not to the Trickson comment though!... Never know! Mabey he got killed and that's why he's not typin away. :eek: :shadedshu
Why even bring him up, I thought this thread was about how kick ass Intel cpu's are!
I remember Mailman and his Amd rig. Me too when I owned mine, we just enjoyed what we had... But now ! HOLY HECK BAT MAN!!! Amd can try again and that's all. Oh btw, I'm keeping my 2700k and also going to grab the 3770k for the hell of it :D Never know, may luck out on a great clocker ;)
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#17
GC_PaNzerFIN
by: N3M3515
Why in the world would you change a 2500K?
Massive performance jumps will come from the generation after Ivy B.
That's my point of view, change hardware when there are big differences in performance.
As for graphic cards i change them whe there is something 200% better at the same price or max $30 pricier.

I don't see the point in changing to something 10 - 15% better.
This current rig was built bang for buck in mind with max one graphics card. Now things changed and I no longer have same kind of budget limitation so what was previously out of my reach started to look quite a bit tempting and can't do that with this mATX board. Which one would you get: Z77 board or equally priced X79 board?

It is easy to see why the X79 platform starts to look tempting.

Trying to figure out what is the best way to spend that additional money. One GTX 690 now to this rig and mATX is no longer a problem, maybe SB-E + SLi...?
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#19
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: Dent1
It's funny how Trickson, the local Intel fanboy has disappeared when there is Intel related bad news?

But he makes an appearance in every AMD thread that pops up just to bash Bulldozer.
...and I'm sure if roles were reversed and AMD was doing better than Intel, Trickson would have the same thing to say about you. I think you have to stop looking for a flame war and when you post, ask if you're actually posting to contribute to the thread or to start a war with another user. At least Trickson doesn't go out of his way to make a point about you, so my recommendation for you would be: Stop trolling and stay on topic. :banghead:

by: sneekypeet
It will be fine, just get it cold! http://www.tweaktown.com/news/23638/intel_core_i7_3770k_overclocked_to_a_whopping_6_616_ghz/index.html
I shouldn't have to turn my AC into a phase change cooler to get a decent overclock, as cool as it would be. :ohwell:
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#20
sneekypeet
Unpaid Babysitter
Yeah it was more or less messing around, it sucks to have to go to that extreme, but it does show that there is potential, just you have to pay much more to cool it to get it there;)
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#21
HammerON
The Watchful Moderator
Was thinking of finally upgrading my i7 970, but it looks like I will wait:(
Maybe the next stepping...
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#22
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: sneekypeet
Yeah it was more or less messing around, it sucks to have to go to that extreme, but it does show that there is potential, just you have to pay much more to cool it to get it there;)
I thought my SB-E ran hot, but you're absolutely right. I'm interested to see what IVB-E brings to the table when that comes around. I'm sure that will cost a pretty penny to cool.

by: HammerON
Was thinking of finally upgrading my i7 970, but it looks like I will wait:(
Maybe the next stepping...
To IVB? The 970 is still plenty fast, I would wait for Haswell with a rig like that unless you're really itching for an upgrade but I don't see it benefitting you unless you go with a SB-E and a 3930k.
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#23
fullinfusion
1.21 Gigawatts
Just like Bulldozer 3870 vs Thurban 1090/1100T Dumb ass :slap: I ment the 8150 vs 1090/1100T

Take the Bulldozer at 4.5 ghz and match it up against the 1090T at 3.4Ghz... The dozer was neck n neck, clock per clock, soooo, Who cares about if the new IB dont clock as high as the SB! It's the clock per clock that's going to shine especially being a 3D gateway transistor ;)

I'm sure ppl wont be disappointed with this chip :rockout:

I know I wont!

And your welcome :pimp:
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#24
Dent1
by: Aquinus
...At least Trickson doesn't go out of his way to make a point about you, so my recommendation for you would be:
He couldn't if he wanted to because I don't go around bashing Intel.

And to answer the main question of the thread, I was planning on upgrading to Ivy Bridge this year, but these TDP stuff is worrying me slightly.
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#25
fullinfusion
1.21 Gigawatts
by: Dent1
He couldn't if he wanted to because I don't go around bashing Intel.

And to answer the main question of the thread, I was planning on upgrading to Ivy Bridge this year, but these TDP stuff is worrying me slightly.
No,! You just go around BASHING.... >>>>>> Period :wtf: :slap:
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