Wednesday, April 25th 2012

AMD FX-8150 Price Drops Like a Rock

AMD's FX-8150 was only mildly competitive with previous-generation Intel processors such as the Core i5-2500K, but to make matters worse, Intel launched its new "Ivy Bridge" Core processors that promise small but sizable performance improvements over its predecessors. The Core i5-3570K, for example, will be priced on par with FX-8150, if its price is left to itself. AMD has apparently cut prices of FX-8150 in Europe. Price aggregator Geizhals shows that the FX-8150 is available for as low as 179 EUR (incl. taxes). The PIB chip is now packed in a more cost-effective paperboard box, instead of the tin box AMD launched the SKU with.
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24 Comments on AMD FX-8150 Price Drops Like a Rock

#1
Zubasa
Meh, the 8150 is still too overpriced to be considered.
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#2
Dj-ElectriC
Too late... just too late AMD...
And yes, IMO 180 euros is still somewhat expensive. 160 euros will be a more balanced price.
This thing still costs 250$ at newegg
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#3
NC37
8150 vs 3570K...yeah I think the only area those two will compete is on heat :D.
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#4
Zubasa
by: NC37
8150 vs 3570K...yeah I think the only area those two will compete is on heat :D.
Not even that, the 3570K's temperature seems high because the heat is more concentrated on a smaller die, the Bulldozer still puts out much more heat than any IB.
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#5
DarkOCean
Still too expensive for what it is.
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#6
dieterd
phenom II preformance for phenom II price - then AMD would get to his own 2010. level. after that they should increase preformance or decrise price to get more competitive.
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#7
HossHuge
The price has dropped here about $50us.
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#8
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
I wonder how long until AMD will be paying us to buy them?
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#9
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
And for some reason they are pretty popular. At €160 the 8120 is a decent buy imo, if you for some reason have an AM3+ motherboard and a lower end CPU.
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#11
repman244
by: NC37
8150 vs 3570K...yeah I think the only area those two will compete is on heat :D.
Just a FYI, heat != temperature


Anyway, this price should of been the launch price, too late I guess...
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#12
zargana
That was inevitable and too late... And because of that AMD loosed a lot of ground in the market...
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#13
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: zargana
That was inevitable and too late... And because of that AMD loosed a lot of ground in the market...
I'm not to sure about that. Anyone have any info on how many Bulldozer's they've sold?
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HTC
by: Dj-ElectriC
Too late... just too late AMD...
And yes, IMO 180 euros is still somewhat expensive. 160 euros will be a more balanced price.
This thing still costs 250$ at newegg
And it costs $299.5 (cheapest i found was 226.76€) here in Portugal: wanna switch?

@ Btarunr: please suggest the use of a bigger rock ...
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#15
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: HTC
And it costs $299.5 (cheapest i found was 226.76€) here in Portugal: wanna switch?

@ Btarunr: please suggest the use of a bigger rock ...
€190 here. :)

EDIT: Scratch that, €180.
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#16
happita
by: btarunr
The PIB chip is now packed in a more cost-effective paperboard box, instead of the tin box AMD launched the SKU with.
When I saw that BD was going to be shipped in tin boxes I thought to myself..."Maaaaaan, it's probably going to factor into the cost, why the hell don't they just ship it in cheap paper boxes like they used to?"...Oh, I know now...it's cuz BD was crap and they wanted to polish that turd enough so people who don't know much about CPUs will look at the shiny box and go..."I want that one!! It looks cool!!!" :laugh:
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#17
tehehe
God damn AMD. Release piledriver/trinity with pcie3.0 already. Intel is too expensive to me.
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Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: happita
When I saw that BD was going to be shipped in tin boxes I thought to myself..."Maaaaaan, it's probably going to factor into the cost, why the hell don't they just ship it in cheap paper boxes like they used to?"...Oh, I know now...it's cuz BD was crap and they wanted to polish that turd enough so people who don't know much about CPUs will look at the shiny box and go..."I want that one!! It looks cool!!!" :laugh:
A lot of people in the know got one as well.
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#19
suraswami
8150 is sold for $230 @ MC. Those things don't seem to stay on shelf for long. They seem to sell faster than an hot fresh bread!!.

Right now 8120 is best priced @ $150 at MC with a free mobo too.
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#20
Andy77
by: suraswami
8150 is sold for $230 @ MC. Those things don't seem to stay on shelf for long. They seem to sell faster than an hot fresh bread!!.

Right now 8120 is best priced @ $150 at MC with a free mobo too.
Americans... and that offer seems to be over, all I saw was FREE for 6100 and below.
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#21
KainXS
I'm still looking to rebuild my system after it . . . . . blew but still not touching bulldozer for 250 dollars . . . . . . power consumptions too high for me personally vs its performance.
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#22
zargana
by: Frick
I'm not to sure about that. Anyone have any info on how many Bulldozer's they've sold?
If you have the number why don't u share it? Probably you missed the news-flash a few days ago.

Here it is...

by: Cristian_25H
AMD today announced revenue for the first quarter of 2012 of $1.59 billion, net loss of $590 million, or $0.80 per share, and operating loss of $580 million. The company reported non-GAAP net income of $92 million, or $0.12 per share, and non-GAAP operating income of $138 million. First quarter non-GAAP net income excludes: the previously disclosed charge of $703 million for a limited waiver of exclusivity of certain 28 nanometer (nm) APU products from GLOBALFOUNDRIES Inc. (GF) related to the 2012 Amendment to the Wafer Supply Agreement; amortization of acquired intangible assets of $1 million; a restructuring charge of $8 million; SeaMicro, Inc. (SeaMicro) acquisition costs of $6 million, and a tax benefit related to the SeaMicro acquisition of $36 million.

"AMD delivered solid results in the first quarter as we remain focused on improving our execution, delivering innovative products, and building a company around a strategy to deliver strong cash flow and earnings growth," said Rory Read, AMD president and CEO. "A complete top-to-bottom introduction of new APU offerings, combined with ample product supply resulting from continued progress with our manufacturing partners, positions us to win and grow."

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-04-19/amd_q1_results_01_thm.jpg

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Quarterly Summary

- Gross margin was 2 percent due to the previously disclosed charge of $703 million for a limited waiver of exclusivity for certain 28nm APU products from GF.
- Non-GAAP gross margin was 46 percent, flat sequentially.
- Cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities balance, including long-term marketable securities, was $1.71 billion at the end of the quarter.
● Cash payments in the quarter included $281 million related to the SeaMicro acquisition and $150 million related to the limited waiver of exclusivity of certain 28 nm APU products from GF.
- AMD's first quarter of 2011 had 14 weeks of business compared to 13 weeks for the first quarter of 2012.
- Computing Solutions segment revenue decreased eight percent sequentially and was flat year-over-year. The sequential decrease was driven by seasonally lower sales in the Client business.
● Operating income was $124 million, compared with $165 million in Q411 and $100 million in Q111.
● Microprocessor ASP decreased sequentially and was flat year-over-year.
● AMD announced and began shipping the follow-on to its essential notebook platform "Brazos," its bestselling platform ever. The new essential notebook platform, codenamed "Brazos 2.0," delivers improved performance, extended battery life and many new features. Systems based on "Brazos 2.0" are expected to be available in the second quarter.
● AMD ramped volume production of its second generation A-Series APU, codenamed "Trinity," in anticipation of global notebook availability from leading OEMs in the second quarter. "Trinity" delivers twice the performance-per-watt compared with AMD's current generation A-Series APU. Systems powered by "Trinity" will enable outstanding entertainment and gaming performance with superior battery life.
● Dell, Tyan, MSI and Fujitsu are among the partners that introduced systems based on AMD Opteron 3200 processors targeting hosting customers who require enterprise-class reliability at desktop-class price points. The new server platform delivers price-performance and power-per-core advantages compared to competitive offerings.
● Telus, a leading Canadian Telecommunications provider, selected the AMD Opteron 6200 Series processors to power its latest offering, the TELUS AgilIT Virtual Private Cloud.
● AMD announced two new heterogeneous computing milestones, both with the objective of enhancing the user experience and nurturing future software development. AMD announced an investment through AMD Ventures in Nuvixa, Inc., a developer of gesture-based video communication and presentation solutions, and the first AMD Fusion Center of Innovation was established at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
- Graphics segment revenue was flat sequentially and decreased 7 percent year-over-year. GPU revenue was up in a seasonally down quarter, due to higher improved desktop GPU ASP in the channel, offset by seasonally lower game console royalty revenue. The year-over-year decrease was primarily driven by lower demand for desktop and mobile graphics.
● Operating income was $34 million, compared with $27 million in Q411 and $19 million in Q111.
● GPU ASP was flat sequentially and increased year-over-year.
● AMD reached a major milestone with worldwide availability of its full line of next generation 28 nm AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series desktop GPUs in less than three months. In addition to the AMD Radeon HD 7950 Series GPU, AMD introduced the first graphics card to break the 1 GHz barrier, the AMD Radeon HD 7770 GPU. AMD also launched the AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series GPU featuring 2 GB of GDDR5 memory for serious gamers.
- Corporate
● AMD announced an amended Wafer Supply Agreement with GF that established a negotiated wafer pricing based on a take or pay arrangement in 2012 and established a framework for wafer pricing in 2013. AMD transferred its remaining ownership interest in GF to GF and GF waived the exclusivity arrangement for AMD to manufacture certain 28 nm APU products at GF for a specified period.
● AMD acquired SeaMicro, Inc., a pioneer in energy-efficient, high-bandwidth microservers. The acquisition accelerates the company's strategy to deliver disruptive server technology and positions AMD to expand its current server offerings to provide customers and partners with low-power, low-cost, high-bandwidth server solutions.

Current Outlook

AMD's outlook statements are based on current expectations. The following statements are forward-looking, and actual results could differ materially depending on market conditions and the factors set forth under "Cautionary Statement" below.

AMD expects revenue to increase 3 percent, plus or minus 3 percent, sequentially for the second quarter of 2012.

For additional detail regarding AMD's results and outlook please see the CFO commentary posted at quarterlyearnings.amd.com.
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Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: zargana
If you have the number why don't u share it? Probably you missed the news-flash a few days ago.

Here it is...
I want to know how many units they have sold.
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#24
zargana
by: Frick
I want to know how many units they have sold.
I think not much. Because the bad reputation... Maybe the cpus wasn't bad at all but it was too below expectations. We have an old saying in Turkish which is "If your name became 9 doesn't drop to 8". That actually happened with amd's bulldozer series.

Also AMD "extreme price" strategy (because tried to sell to us a FX as the past) turned was totally wrong. If AMD had adopt a "mild price" strategy maybe the things today with all those numbers was so different.

I think AMD should consider the price policy of their products from scratch and open his ears to the consumer market and listen...

Maybe sometimes we demand impossible things but there is always a middle solution.
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