Monday, June 11th 2012

AMD Readies Trio of New Radeon HD 7900 Series SKUs

Apart from a few Radeon HD 7970 "X2" dual-GPU graphics cards, and a few non-reference design HD 7970, we didn't hear much about new Radeon SKUs, at Computex. AMD or its partners never even talked about the Radeon HD 7990. It appears now, that the company is working on three new SKUs that will likely replace existing ones, in a bid to replenish the competitiveness of its "Southern Islands" GPU family. The three new SKUs include the Radeon HD 7990, of which we've been hearing for a greater part of this year; the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, which we knew was taking shape for some time now; and the new Radeon HD 7930.

Launch of the Radeon HD 7990 has been facing quite a few delays. We can't imagine technical hurdles with regard to board design, but the performance yield, and performance-per-Watt figures the SKU will have to produce, to ever make it to the market. The HD 7990 has the tough task of performing within an acceptable range of the GeForce GTX 690, on both these fronts.

The Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition will be NVIDIA's bid to compete with the GTX 680, if merely lowering prices won't cut it for the HD 7970. AMD will raise the reference clock speeds for the HD 7970. Lastly, we're hearing of a new SKU, called HD 7930, codenamed "Tahiti LE". This SKU was first spotted when keen observers were poking around with driver information files. It's likely to be a cut-down 28 nm "Tahiti" GPU. It will be interesting to see how AMD prices it, seeing as how it's a tight squeeze between the HD 7870 GHz Edition and HD 7950.

According to a fresh 3DCenter.org report, launch of the HD 7990 is pushed all the way back to August (mid-Summer). The HD 7970 GHz Edition, if real, should be just around the corner, with a June launch predicted. The HD 7930, on the other hand, could be out after June, if the competition gets tough following launch of upper-mainstream NVIDIA SKUs.Source: 3DCenter.org
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64 Comments on AMD Readies Trio of New Radeon HD 7900 Series SKUs

#1
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
by: Benetanegia
No you need to put some perspective into it. First of all 200k people is next to nothing in a platform with 40 million people and in a 7 billion people world. Secodly, those 200.000 would have been much much better off buying the HD5770 for $150 than HD5830 for $250+. Performance was really close, price wasn't.

Alternatively they could have paid $300 for the 5850 which would have given them 30% more performance, so yeah, things really need to be put into perspective.
1.5 million users out of 40 million is pretty high :P

you have better odds in steam meeting a filler card user than you do meeting someone from texas if you live in rhode island...

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20:14 UTC Jun 11, 2012
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#3
Benetanegia
by: T4C Fantasy
1.5 million users out of 40 million is pretty high :P

you have better odds in steam meeting a filler card user than you do meeting someone from texas if you live in rhode island...

U.S. 313,721,729
World 7,019,279,926
20:14 UTC Jun 11, 2012
Still grasping at straws and avoiding the issue. There's no linear sales figures for those cards, where ther is for the rest of the lineup. The number of users using those cards is negligible. 1.5 out of 40 is 3.75%, for all the filler cards, where 96.25% are the non filler cards. According to you those cards are just another card in the lineup, which meet a much required demand in that range, so assuming an 8 card lineup, those filler cards should be at least 12.5% not 3%, and so that completely proves my point.
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#4
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
by: Benetanegia
Still grasping at straws and avoiding the issue. There's no linear sales figures for those cards, where ther is for the rest of the lineup. The number of users using those cards is negligible. 1.5 out of 40 is 3.75%, for all the filler cards, where 96.25% are the non filler cards. According to you those cards are just another card in the lineup, which meet a much required demand in that range, so assuming an 8 card lineup, those filler cards should be at least 12.5% not 3%, and so that completely proves my point.
thats 3.92% from only last gens sales figure for 1 month.... the other generation have also sold a fair amount of filler cards..... there is a demand for them.. get over it.. if there wasnt a demand for them then noone at all would buy them its a fact.

even to say 200k people is not a valid amount of people is retarded.
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#5
Benetanegia
by: T4C Fantasy
thats 3.92% from only last gens sales figure for 1 month.... the other generation have also sold a fair amount of filler cards..... there is a demand for them.. get over it.. if there wasnt a demand for them then noone at al lwould buy them its a fact.
We are not discussing if they sold at all or not. Put anything for sale and it will sell. Those 200k people could have bought other better cards just as well, it's not as if just because that card does not exist they can't get a card with their money. They can, and better cards, in fact. That's why they are irrelevant.

What I am discussing is if those cards should exist to begin with, and no they shouldn't (if this was a world friendly to consumers). I gave the example of the HD5830 above. It costed $100 more (66% more) than the HD5770 for a 10% increase in performance. The HD5850 costed around $50 more than the 5830 (20% more) for a 36% increase in performance.

So some people bought the HD5830, well they shouldn't, plain and simple and that's only proving my point. Of course they sell some units, that's the issue, following with the 5830 example, the issue is it sold to some people and those people got ripped off and the price of HD5850 stays very high and never comes down too much, because that small yet significant percent of people which would have become the driving force that would have pushed the HD5850 to $250, bought a much worse card at that price, instead of keeping their money until HD5850 was available at their desired price. They basically didn't exercise the most basic principle of free markets and fell for the trap.
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#6
theoneandonlymrk
by: Benetanegia
So it's not a service, not a single HDxx30 has been a good buy overall and has never been in enough quantities as to become a supply/demand force. Same for SE, LE cards or whatever Nvidia calls them.
i agree in principal ,but it dosnt matter either way, as someone Will buy it ,not everyone knows what their getting, and those that dont sell this way, will get discounted untill they do sell.

Amd like nvidia and intel add naseum all need to sell all of what they make,, even the bits that binned oddly or in odd quantities or poorly, at least amd are giving this particular card a different name and not using one monicer for this and a better card, a tactic i dislike.;):p
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#7
SonDa5
by: hardcore_gamer
What's the point in releasing 7930 when 7870 performs similar to 7950 ?
7870 is far from performing like a over clocked 7950.


What's the point of 7870 when 7850 is almost as good when over clocked?


If this 7930 cost less than HD7950 but can over clock and offer similar performance to HD7970 then it will be a good card for video card for those on a budget but who like to over clock.
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#8
acerace
by: erocker
Lastly, what does any of this have to do with three new GPU's from AMD? Perhaps this conversation should be had elsewhere.
You know who sailed the thread to the other direction. :rolleyes:
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#9
bear jesus
Will the 7970 GHz edition be pretty much the same thing as the 7970s that are clocked at or over 1ghz?

Really unless it happens to be a 2ghz model i do not understand how this will help 7970s be any more competitive than the current overclocked models, anyone want to help me understand this?
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Benetanegia
by: bear jesus
Will the 7970 GHz edition be pretty much the same thing as the 7970s that are clocked at or over 1ghz?

Really unless it happens to be a 2ghz model i do not understand how this will help 7970s be any more competitive than the current overclocked models, anyone want to help me understand this?
It will probably clock a little bit better and with lower temps. Nothing miraculous for sure, but if sold for the same price as the current one it should be more competitive.
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#11
Casecutter
Like GTX580 mainly better on efficiency which allowed for upping the clocks and holding the TDP, while finally enabling fully all the Cudas. Though Nvidia asked the same $500 MSRP for "What the GTX 480 Should Have Been". Even then only surpassing the 5870 (25-30%), which had been around some 14 months, but competition from the 6970 showed up the following month for like $130 less.

Today AMD can get from TSMC the better gate efficiency so they can hit the designed 1Ghz clocks, while staying under their original 250TDP threshold and at probably a $70 lower price! "What AMD wanted TSMC can finally deliver?"
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#12
Hilux SSRG
by: Isenstaedt
Yes! They didn't name it 7890!
So the HD 7930, codenamed Tahiti LE is the rumored 7890? And I thought it was going to be two sandwiched 7870? Too bad I couldn't wait and got the GTX 670 :toast:
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#13
N3M3515
by: Benetanegia
It will probably clock better, with lower temps and the same or lower voltage. If sold for the same price as the current one it should be more competitive.
Fixed :D
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#14
N3M3515
by: N3M3515
I'll have to disagree with you in that one, while i also think august is to late for the 7990, i definitely don't think it will be slower than the gtx690, basically because amd, if wanted could have released it months ago. But they took al this time to improve perf/watt and increase clocks, so it can be faster and consume the same (7970 vs 7970Ghz ed).
Guess what, I was right :D
oh no i was wrong, it will consume less!
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