Monday, September 17th 2012

AMD "Oland" Radeon HD 8800 Series SKUs Unveiled

Apparently, launch of AMD's Radeon HD 8800 series is close enough for some sources to come up with specifications. The HD 8800 series, according to one source, is based on a new silicon codenamed "Oland," which is built on the 28 nm process, packing 3.4 billion transistors with around 270 mm² die-area. According to the source, the two HD 8800 series models, the HD 8870 "Oland XT" will up performance per Watt and cost-performance ratios over current HD 7800 series, while maintaining current process technologies.

The Radeon HD 8870, according to numbers provided by the source, could offer performance comparable to today's high-end GPUs. The HD 8870 is clocked at 1050 MHz with 1100 MHz PowerTune Boost frequency; while the HD 8850 is clocked at 925 MHz with 975 MHz boost frequency. The memory of both SKUs is clocked at 6.00 GHz, yielding 192 GB/s memory bandwidth. The chips hence have 256-bit wide memory interfaces.

Key details such as stream processor, TMU, and ROP counts are excluded, though the source mentions that the HD 8870 provides up to 75% higher single-precision floating point and up to 60% higher double-precision floating point performance over its prdecessor, the HD 7870. The texture fill-rate is up by 65%. The Radeon HD 8850 offers similar increases over its predecessor, the HD 7850. Find them tabled above.Sources: Read2ch, VideoCardz
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93 Comments on AMD "Oland" Radeon HD 8800 Series SKUs Unveiled

#1
dieterd
good news, but from otherside - is there anything new in gaming world that require/will require something more than one good old hd 5870 to run on ultra @1080? while there will be "newest" consoles with GPUs of XT1800 level... well you get my "optimistic" point of view
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#2
seronx
by: dieterd
good news, but from otherside - is there anything new in gaming world that require/will require something more than one good old hd 5870 to run on ultra @1080? while there will be "newest" consoles with GPUs of XT1800 level... well you get my "optimistic" point of view
Wii U => ~5670
PS4 & XB3 => ~7870/670

:o
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#3
Dj-ElectriC
xbox720 is rumored to have the GPU equivalent of the HD6670
PS4 about the same, also AMD based, maybe Fusion/
Both far from HD7870's level anyway.
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#4
hardcore_gamer
by: Dj-ElectriC
xbox720 is rumored to have the GPU equivalent of the HD6670
PS4 about the same, also AMD based, maybe Fusion/
Both far from HD7870's level anyway.
There is a chance that both M$ and Sony updated the spec when the 28nm GPUs came out.
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#5
seronx
by: Dj-ElectriC
xbox720 is rumored to have the GPU equivalent of the HD6670
PS4 about the same, also AMD based, maybe Fusion/
Both far from HD7870's level anyway.
Playstation 4 has 1120 GCN ALUs
Wii U has 400-480 ALUs

5670 -> 400 ALUs @ .775 MHz @ 40-nm
6670 -> 480 ALUs @ .8 MHz @ 40-nm
Wii U -> 400-480 @ 1.0+ GHz @ 32-nm <-- H2 2012
XBX/PS4 -> 1120-1344 GCN/Kepler @ 1.0+ GHz @ 28-nm <-- H2 2013 - H1 2014

Playstation 4 -> APU monolithic silicon (AMD²)
Xbox 3 -> APU interposer (AMD + Nvidia)
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#6
mtosev
nice nice. good to see new gfx cards coming out soon
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#7
3870x2
It kinda feels like they are competing with NV on how fast they can bring out a new series of cards.
I dont care how often they produce a new set of cards, I just want the new series to be more relevant, not just marketing.
A great example is the 5xxx to 6xxx series, where improvements were only efficiency.
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#8
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: jigar2speed
Correct, but i was talking about the new games, HD58** series has enough to play atleast 1 more year's future games (Exceptional are there but still)
I still don't get you. You mean it wouldn't work with new games if it's not "supported"? It will work perfectly.

Anyway, does this mean there will be no 76xx cards?
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#9
sic_doni
the new graphic card will be cheaper...faster...and more power efficient :nutkick:
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#10
Completely Bonkers
Just... as... I... was... about... to... put... money... down... for... 660Ti

but this is a Q1.13 launch ... so up to 6 month wait.
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#11
hardcore_gamer
by: Completely Bonkers
but this is a Q1.13 launch ... so up to 6 month wait.
We don't know yet. There is also a possibility for a holiday season launch.
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#12
3870x2
by: Frick
I still don't get you. You mean it wouldn't work with new games if it's not "supported"? It will work perfectly.

Anyway, does this mean there will be no 76xx cards?
It would be pointless now, they couldn't get them out in enough time before the marketing department said its time for a new series.
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#13
TRWOV
by: Frick
I still don't get you. You mean it wouldn't work with new games if it's not "supported"? It will work perfectly.

Anyway, does this mean there will be no 76xx cards?
There are OEM 7570 and 7670 cards but those are 6570 and 6670 rebags.
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#14
nt300
by: radrok
I am still waiting for the 7990 :p

Jokes aside, I was pretty set on a couple 7970s toxic but if specs are already coming out I guess I'll wait :)
Looking like the HD 8870 will be faster and cheaper than HD 7970. I wold wait if I were you.
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#15
renz496
^still we don't have any idea when this card will comes out. if you keep playing waiting game you'll never buy anything in the end lol. IMO the best way to get a card is to see the one that will fit your need the most not based on which is the latest one

btw if AMD really did comes out with 8800 series before 8900 series it could mean they get very nice competition from nvidia
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#16
james888
I wonder if the 8800 series will have 3gb vram
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#17
renz496
by: james888
I wonder if the 8800 series will have 3gb vram
most likely the card will come with 2 GB as standard.
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#18
Delta6326
by: jigar2speed
I hope they don't drop the balls (Support) on their HD 5*** series, My HD 5850 is still fast enough and serving in my secondary system.
Don't worry sense they dropped support for the 4*** series I get way better frames for new games.
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#19
Casecutter
by: 3870x2
It kinda feels like they are competing with NV on how fast they can bring out a new series of cards.
It kind'a appears AMD could care less about Nvidia being so tardy with their mainstream response, and are just sticking to their product development as normal. Though it does seem AMD intends to strike at the Nvidia's soft spot 660/660Ti first and grab the lions share.

I'd love to see it come before Christmas buying season and I believe they could... that would put Nvidia in the corner wearing the pointy hat!
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#20
_Flare
8850 may have:
1536 Cores (@ 2prim per clock) x 975MHz = 2.995200 TFLOPS
-------------------------------x 925MHz = 2.841600 TFLOPS
96 TMU x 975 MHz = 93.6 GT/s
---------x 925MHz = 88.8 GT/s
32 ROP x 975 MHz = 31.2 GP/s
--------x 925 MHz = 21.3 GP/s

8870 may have:
1790-1792~Cores x 1050MHz = 3.759 - 3.763 TFLOPS old 7950@800MHz is at 2.867
112 TMU = 117,6 GT/s
32 ROP = 33,6 GP/s
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#21
alexsubri
by: seronx
Wii U => ~5670
PS4 & XB3 => ~7870/670

:o
I'm pretty sure that the Wii U is running a 5770 , I may be wrong though. But that is a big step for Consoles, because XBOX was running the ATI XT series
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#22
alwayssts
I'd just like to point out (not to gloat, but to be rumor-weary) I've been saying these EXACT part would occur (right down to the freaking clock speeds) for like...six months.

It may be true, and obviously I expect it more-or-less to will be, but yeah.

Things to consider:

*Should perform like 7950 and 7970 ghz ed at stock (if not memory constrained), 8850 10% better than 7870 overall.
*Makes a lot more sense priced at 259-269/359-369 (660ti/670), because amd has been shown to really like those approx. prices at launch.
*1792sp would be bandwidth constrained with 6gbps/256-bit at around 900mhz (obviously one can overclock and the gtx600 series shows how far 6ghz ram can go)
*8850 should have one power connector and in theory could hit similar clocks to stock 8870 within 150w, perform similar to 660ti.
*die size sounds exactly what I figured it would be, as does TDP.

The two things that don't compute are the ram/shader setup and the price. Either AMD expects people to understand they will need to overclock the ram, the specs are wrong, or amd is short-sighting themselves (which benefits us).
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#23
Hilux SSRG
I know the pricing [and performance numbers] is not set in stone yet but the 8870 is still priced too high. Don't know what the performance will be like but I wouldn't shell out more than $225-250 for those 8870 levels of performance.
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#24
Atom_Anti
Nice! Hope to see soon in Kaveri APU too...?
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#25
HumanSmoke
by: Casecutter
I'd love to see it come before Christmas buying season
Why not? They did the same last year...it's just that you couldn't actually buy a card until January
by: Casecutter
and I believe they could... that would put Nvidia in the corner wearing the pointy hat!*
...then Nvidia bring out the GTX 700's and the hat gets passed back...cue AMD-angst until Catalyst 13.8 comes out...Wash.Rinse.Repeat.

Since GK110 is already shipping for revenue, I'd suspect that the rumour mills will already be touting the GTX 780's (?) performance around the time that the Sea Islands starts making its own appearance. If -as suspected, the large die GK 110 takes the GPU crown, then it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that Nvidia still sell large numbers of x50/x60 parts based on the cachet of the top part...even if the top part is in very short supply and drip-fed into the channel. Not as if there isn't ample precedent

* At least the GPU pointy hat gets passed back and forth...pity AMD have the CPU version as a permanent addition to their wardrobe.
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