Friday, September 28th 2012

AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz over LN2: Company

AMD's new A10-5800K "Trinity" APUs, launched earlier this week, are capable of extreme overclocking, something similarly-priced Intel processors can't claim, according to Adam Kozak, desktop products manager with the company. According to Kozak, the roughly $150 A10-5800K are capable of 6.50 GHz overclocked speeds, when augmented with liquid nitrogen cooling.

Overclocking capabilities give AMD's sub-$150 chips such as the A10-5800K, A8-5600K, and A6-5400K an edge over similarly-priced Intel chips. The cheapest overclockable chip from Intel's current lineup is the $220 Core i5-2500K. Based on the "Trinity" silicon, the A10-5800K ships with clock speeds of 3.80 GHz, which go up to 4.20 GHz with TurboCore. The chip features an unlocked base clock multiplier, which makes overclocking possible.

Source: TechWorld.com.au
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157 Comments on AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz over LN2: Company

#1
Harlequin_uk
would love to see them actually benchmark anything at that speed rather than just switch it on and post a screen shot....
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#2
joyman
It would be interesting to see if Trinity will be better memory clocker than Llano.
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#3
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: Harlequin_uk
would love to see them actually benchmark anything at that speed rather than just switch it on and post a screen shot....
That's not a stable speed, most likely stable enough for CPU-Z, just like any other WR clocks. Usually WR clocks and WR Benching clocks aren't at the same speeds. Just like the worlds strong bench presser we'll say, benches his max once. They don't say, "how about you use a more realistic, lower weight and do many reps", because that's not what he is there to do at that time.
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#4
Dj-ElectriC
This PR is bad and AMD should feel bad.
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#5
NC37
Didn't Llano go to 8Ghz?
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#6
HumanSmoke
by: NC37
Didn't Llano go to 8Ghz?
No. Around 6G was about it as much as I recollect. You're probably thinking of Bulldozer which cracked 8G in the lead up to it's launch...obviously AMD have processor launches to a set PR/marketing routine
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#7
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
AMD PR..... *facekeyboard*
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#8
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
I don't really see how this is bad PR. It's not awesome, but I for one think these things are pretty interesting (not practical or usable, but interesting).
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#9
renz496
can't they promote the processor way better than this? that extreme overclocking potential is useless if you can't use it on daily basis. people who are going to use this processor 'properly' are not going to break world record everyday
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#10
Dent1
by: Dj-ElectriC
This PR is bad and AMD should feel bad.
by: renz496
can't they promote the processor way better than this?
Why is everyone always on AMD's case?

Intel has 10x the resources and they promote their processors with unstable LN2 overclocks too but nobody says nothing.
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#11
mediasorcerer
I think the point of the article is, that at least for the price, it's capable of being overclocked, whereas the similar intel offering is quite a bit more expensive for the same feature, thats what i got from it.

Its a good thing intel has competition from amd, otherwise we would be paying possibly a lot more for intel chips? [Does that make sense?]
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#12
nt300
The box art looks sweet. it must be fast.
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#13
mediasorcerer
by: nt300
The box art looks sweet. it must be fast.
I got intel myself, but id reckon[guessing here pls] its probably way fast enough for 80% of mst comp users out there really.
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#14
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: Dent1
Why is everyone always on AMD's case?

Intel has 10x the resources and they promote their processors with unstable LN2 overclocks too but nobody says nothing.
+1: Yeah, and no one bashes Intel when they overclock an i7 to 7.5ghz with HTT disabled and only 1 core enabled. Give AMD a break, jeez. :banghead:
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#15
3870x2
I think I will use these for my next work computer build, simply because they are interesting.

Also, what is up with people on AMD about bad PR?
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#16
theoneandonlymrk
by: mediasorcerer
I think the point of the article is, that at least for the price, it's capable of being overclocked, whereas the similar intel offering is quite a bit more expensive for the same feature, thats what i got from it.
+1 and exactly:D

Proof then as if it were required that this Pr bumph has a point ,the same point the article mentions YOU CAN OC THESE QUITE WELL, yeh its in big but needs some highlighting for some to understand, why people have to have a dig all the time at AMd without really even haveing a reason/point is starting to get annoying and tiresome.:shadedshu



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by: Dj-ElectriC
This PR is bad and AMD should feel bad.
:wtf:

your comments bad and you should feel bad about it, its an opinion without any actual point ie why in your opinion was this bad PR anyways(no i dont actually want to know but if your going to post at least bother with an actual reason)


Fish and chips are great, but apples and pairs are horrid:wtf:
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#17
Mindweaver
Moderato®™
Great achievement! But I would rather see it do 5ghz on air or aio watercooler(H50/H80/H100 and so on...). I don't see how AMD sees this as good PR.. It's like telling some one you have a car with 600hp! BUT it only keeps up with an average 300hp car... :rolleyes:

EDIT: AWW the love/Hate relationship with me and AMD.. hehehe Tell me again how much better your product is on paper than theres?..hehehe
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#18
chimonow
On a quad per core, Awesome!

If this is every core overclocking on even LN2 then this is pretty damn AMAZING! Everyone has to take into account that most CPU overclocker's who break the world record are only oc'ing one core! To see this core break the 6.5ghz mark on all four cores within the boundries of LN2 would be a record within itself!
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#19
Konceptz
I think the whole point is that if a quad with great integrated graphics can reach that kind of speed on LN2...imagine what it can do on a good water / high end air setup. That chip costs less then $150.
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#20
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: Mindweaver
EDIT: AWW the love/Hate relationship with me and AMD.. hehehe Tell me again how much better your product is on paper than theres?..hehehe
Ever compile a full application from source using AMD's compiler optimizations? FMA3 and XOP bring a lot to the table when they're actually used, like two FP (single precision) ops per clock instead of just one per module. FMA3 is really what brings FP optimizations to forefront and next to nothing uses it. :banghead:

Instead of using Intel's compilers and libraries, give AMD's a try: http://developer.amd.com/TOOLS/CPU/Pages/default.aspx
Oh wait, they're only for Linux. Doh!
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#21
brandonwh64
Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!
These chips are not glory kings or speed demons. These chips are for someone that wants a LIGHT CHEAP gamer or HTPC/Small platform. If you want massive frame rates or low PI scores. Go with your gut and get intel SB/IB.

After that being said, I will probably pick the 5800K up for a HTPC.
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#22
LDNL
I think we all know what the current amd architecture is capable of. Those numbers never mean anything until theyve gone through the grinder.
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#23
xenocide
by: Dent1
Why is everyone always on AMD's case?

Intel has 10x the resources and they promote their processors with unstable LN2 overclocks too but nobody says nothing.
The way I see it, is that in recent years AMD has prioritized high clocks and limited releases of benchmarks--generally ones that favor them. I mean, with the Preview's they authorized sites to do GPU benchmarks (with a suggestion of games) and overclocking tests, but told them they were not allowed to do tests of the CPU itself. This is clearly AMD covering up what they already know and embracing their successes. Everyone knows the iGPU of Trinity will be substantially better than the iGPU on IB, what people are worried about is an underpowered CPU and high power consumption.

With Trinity in particular the overclocking is almost irrelevant since it is primarily going to be an entry level CPU/GPU setup for budget gamers and a good alternative for HTPC's. Neither are categories of people that would want to be running extreme overclocks. There's also the fact that since the fiasco that was Netburst, people aren't fooled by high clock rates if the performance isn't there. Netburst really proved that just because you have a CPU running at double the clock rate of your competitor, it doesn't always make it better.
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#24
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: LDNL
I think we all know what the current amd architecture is capable of. Those numbers never mean anything until theyve gone through the grinder.
Someone has to fill that grinder, software doesn't write itself so it's in the hands of the developer to optimize their software and as a developer, I tend to be lazy. Not in the sense that I write bad code, but weighing the costs and benefits. I've converted some FP calculations in code at work to run as a lower-precision integer operation just because integer ops run faster than floating-point and the level of precision that FP offers isn't necessary.

How much slower do you think 25.35 + 32.55 runs than 2535 + 3255? The only time that turns into a FP number is when the user sees it. Otherwise multiplying a integer will be fast since all you have to do is shift the bits and maybe add a single number.
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#25
Mindweaver
Moderato®™
by: Aquinus
Ever compile a full application from source using AMD's compiler optimizations? FMA3 and XOP bring a lot to the table when they're actually used, like two FP (single precision) ops per clock instead of just one per module. FMA3 is really what brings FP optimizations to forefront and next to nothing uses it. :banghead:
What does that have to do with my comment or the OP? :banghead: I said it was great.. I just want them to do 5ghz on air... I use AMD in a lot of my systems and always have.. Now go bark up someone else's tree... :p Remember you can like something and still want it to do better... You settle for shit and you'll get shit... :D

EDIT: AND before AMD people go crazy.. hehehe I'm not calling AMD shit.. Again I like/love AMD's products... :toast:
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