Tuesday, October 9th 2012

Call of Duty Under Religious Fire

All the turmoil in the middle east seems to be overflowing into the world of video games. Shack News has reported that the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 map 'Favela' and the re-release of 'Favela' in a Modern Warfare 3 DLC has been pulled from normal rotation for a texture "mishap" that quotes the phrase "Allah is beautiful and He loves beauty,". This isn't an inflammatory remark in unto itself. However the phrase's location in the level itself has been called into question. Some people apparently found it offensive that Allah was mentioned in a picture frame located in the level's bathroom.

To avoid any backlash from the Muslim community Infinity Ward promptly pulled the level and is scouring the rest of the game for the texture to be patched out in the near future. "We apologize to anyone who found this image offensive," Activision said in a statement. "Please be assured we were unaware of this issue and that there was no intent to offend." Activision also said, "Activision and our development studios are respectful of diverse cultures and religious beliefs, and sensitive to concerns raised by its loyal game players. We thank our fans for bringing this to our attention." and our development studios are respectful of diverse cultures and religious beliefs, and sensitive to concerns raised by its loyal game players. We thank our fans for bringing this to our attention."

Source: Shacknews
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111 Comments on Call of Duty Under Religious Fire

#1
m1dg3t
I don't play COD anyways.

:o

This is however a start to a very downward spiralling situation, and NO I do not agree with it.

As a Catholic I don't like the fact the Jews had the Pagan Romans murder my "saviour" but here we are. 2000 years later...

Everyone should smoke some grass and get nekkid! Thats what the world needs; GLOBAL ORGY :rockout:
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#2
happita
by: Steevo
So to prove that Muslims are OK with the rest of the world and secure the first thing they do is to threaten others. Good job.



If you can't take the heat stay out the kitchen. Even if it were intentional, who cares besides a few people who need to grow up anyway? Religion is a personal choice, and I for one feel it should be kept that way, no more any religion favored over any other.
Believe it or not, SOME things cannot be reasoned with words, and anyone who thinks otherwise is not realistic at all. I don't care if your Gandhi, EVERYONE has a tipping point, only in his case, he decided to put himself in harms way.

Secondly, they never asked to be put "in the kitchen". If people wanna get on different sides of a fence and decide to insult each others' ideas and beliefs, that's fine. Just don't go making it public by plastering a flyer on a wall and then feel bad once someone recognized what it said/meant. It's not cool. The freedom of speech argument in this instance is just stupid. Unless it's done to me, I absolutely NEVER use my freedom of speech to make someone or a group of people feel bad. That's just not right.
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TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: m1dg3t

Everyone should smoke some grass and get nekkid! Thats what the world needs; GLOBAL ORGY :rockout:
Americans tried that in 1967. Only thing that came out of it was incurable herpes.
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#4
m1dg3t
by: TheMailMan78
Americans tried that in 1967. Only thing that came out of it was incurable herpes.
And a MailMan :roll:
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#5
Capitan Harlock
by: omnimodis78
But it's OK for arabs to fly planes into buildings in the name of allah...or is it ahmed, muhamad sorry what's the guy's name they keep killing people for (including their own)?

Ok that was the most ignorant comment I've ever written but I just had to. Sorry.
you are a BIG BRAINWASHED, you seriousli think tha the 9/11 was made by 6 guys ? is made by usa himself and petrol company and the prove are billions and you think is true the show made on tv and by shitbush? you are crazy.
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#6
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
I take no pride in this as a member of TPU... :shadedshu *PMs btarunr*
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#7
Jizzler
^ He's right, get this over to GeneralNonsense, stat! Every post is like writing on a bathroom wall there :D
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Rahmat Sofyan
ahh I've cancel my sleep :D..

by: xorbe
They are worried about a game texture, meanwhile they're okay with shooting 14yo girls in the head:
http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-girl-spoke-against-taliban-shot-wounded-095818763.html

Apparently we are going to let them roll right over everyone else's culture, because we are afraid of their violent temper tantrums. This is not going to end well, eventually.
sorry man, you should dig more about who is taliban, I'm really limited how to say all about it in english, that's is very long story, shortly they are a not a muslim as they should and totaly there is no taliban culture or lecture in our Quran, and IMO that is only kind of stupid government rule.

by: Vinska

'cept that it's not. I won't go into details myself, 'cause others already did a pretty good job in it here Allah on Wikipedia
Especially the third sentence in the article and these paragraphs: usage in Christianity and usage in Judasim

We need an emoticon for "mind blown" here.
I'm sorry again, I don't need wiki to understand word "Allah" :), you know it I guess, what I mean about one religion, this is so need much time for me to explain about it and why I say one religion.

but simply in my concept, Allah is God, but God is not Allah. :)..

BTT, maybe in this case COD is one of the famous FPS game around the world and so many people play it, and maybe some of them are muslim, and for that to avoid bad effect and I hope to respect each other Activison give that act. Just in this game what I say..no other thing :)
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#9
happita
by: Rahmat Sofyan
ahh I've cancel my sleep :D..



sorry man, you should dig more about who is taliban, I'm really limited how to say all about it in english, that's is very long story, shortly they are a not a muslim as they should and totaly there is no taliban culture or lecture in our Quran, and IMO that is only kind of stupid government rule.
I got the jist of what you mean. Basically the taliban aren't real muslims, they are extremists who further their political agenda by pretending to be the best muslims. The book they have is probably misinterpreted (by design), so they could recruit younger people who don't know any better.

by: Jizzler
^ He's right, get this over to GeneralNonsense, stat! Every post is like writing on a bathroom wall there :D
^
I agree, this should def go to GN
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#10
Solaris17
Creator Solaris Utility DVD
by: piotrekhc
Stop Islamization of the world, or we will get to the point with no return propably WW3. They now taking down vending machines in hospitals clinics etc coz islam peopels feel offended what kind of bulshit is that building mosc trying force theirs own culture in countries like UK France etc. The only option is to say stop and push them back where they come from let them shit in thiers own gardens.

Peace !
what am i reading? what happened to this thread? why is this even a pole? this is inciting a religious argument. A pole was put up on whether or not removing a religious insult (in some religions) was ok?

who cares? i played MW2 for a long time both on the Pc and the PS3 and i never even noticed it i guess i was busy doing other things then checking out the bathroom. that said what does it matter if its taken out? are you going to be sad that you cant hear it?

super mods?
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Rahmat Sofyan
by: happita
I got the jist of what you mean. Basically the taliban aren't real muslims, they are extremists who further their political agenda by pretending to be the best muslims. The book they have is probably misinterpreted (by design), so they could recruit younger people who don't know any better.
yeah you got what I mean man :toast:...
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#13
happita
by: piotrekhc
Freedom of speech
That doesn't exist.
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#14
m1dg3t
by: piotrekhc
Freedom of speech
Is NOT an international thing.

We all need to be respectfull of eachother, otherwise what does that say about society?
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#15
the54thvoid
Request that a mod formally shuts this anti-Islamic thread down.

It's about a games company pulling content because it offended someone.

Islam has nothing to do with this. No more than the time the guy that murdered doctors who carried out abortions was about christianity.

Anyway, it's COD ffs. POS anyway.
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#16
Rahmat Sofyan
by: piotrekhc
Stop Islamization of the world, or we will get to the point with no return propably WW3. They now taking down vending machines in hospitals clinics etc coz islam peopels feel offended what kind of bulshit is that building mosc trying force theirs own culture in countries like UK France etc. The only option is to say stop and push them back where they come from let them shit in thiers own gardens.

Peace !
by: Steevo
So to prove that Muslims are OK with the rest of the world and secure the first thing they do is to threaten others. Good job.



If you can't take the heat stay out the kitchen. Even if it were intentional, who cares besides a few people who need to grow up anyway? Religion is a personal choice, and I for one feel it should be kept that way, no more any religion favored over any other.
this is what we scare, the false paradigm about the muslims.

ah man, I'm not saying I'm a very good muslim but AFAIK there is no Islamization around the world, only the media blew it some crispy news with some seasoning on it, you know.

I guess we must stay on the topic only about the game, and why that words need to remove, that's what I'm trying to share.
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#17
Shihabyooo
by: D4S4
he has a point there. muslims behave like fucking fanatics.
You do realize that the a great deal of Muslims are uneducated simple minded people ? I say that as a Muslim, and as someone living in one of earth hell holes. And by education I don't just mean academic education. Most of us Muslims don't know the most fundamental parts of our religion.
I realize you're post is targeting people not religion, but I had to make this fact clear.

The part where you speak about the change of time, it's actually one of the biggest issues with how we practice our religion today. Many scientists (literal translation, you know them better as Clergy men, but I kinda loved the irony in the literal translation. Point to be noted though, we do consider them to be men of science) argue that some (not all) of the lesser fundamental practices and teachings are era-bound (Though not in the exact argument). The problem relies with defining the changes that should be applied. A very grieve matter in Islam that is.



by: sergionography
however I sure wont go out of my way to defend christianity because its not my faith, thats up to christians to do and I sure wont blame them if they do(offcourse aslong as its in good manners and without crossing anyone elses boundaries just like this video). .
I would though. Two reasons:
A- Islam forbids insulting other religions.
B- Standing against what is wrong is one of our tasks.

Of course, Wisdom and Common sense also apply here, I wouldn't go staging riots, but if it was an argument with -say- a friend or a colleague, or even with a fellow Muslim online, I'd definitely stand for what's right.


by: TheMailMan78
I doubt they knew. I bet some artist typed in "Muslim picture frame" into google images and found a picture. Made a texture and uploaded it to the server having NO IDEA what it says.
Reminds me of the Resident Evil 5 incident, when Quran was allegedly found thrown on the floor .
Capcom stated that the book was NOT an imitation of Quran. But then again, it's all a western conspiracy against Islam, or at least that's what many Muslims think. Hell, no one even cared to remember that Capcom is Japanese :banghead:


by: omnimodis78
But it's OK for arabs to fly planes into buildings in the name of allah...or is it ahmed, muhamad sorry what's the guy's name they keep killing people for (including their own)?

Ok that was the most ignorant comment I've ever written but I just had to. Sorry.
You may have noticed that it is ignorant. But sadly, the majority out there doesn't.
Will save you a 757 and accept the apology ;)


by: Steevo
So to prove that Muslims are OK with the rest of the world and secure the first thing they do is to threaten others. Good job.
Oi! Don't group us all in the same category! I'm a Muslim and I'm two thirds a pacifist (outside Video games, that is)



by: piotrekhc
Stop Islamization of the world, or we will get to the point with no return propably WW3. They now taking down vending machines in hospitals clinics etc coz islam peopels feel offended what kind of bulshit is that building mosc trying force theirs own culture in countries like UK France etc. The only option is to say stop and push them back where they come from let them shit in thiers own gardens.

Peace !
:rolleyes:
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#18
Shihabyooo
Subject related:

I'm quite surprised Activision caved in so easily! I never thought of them as a company that actually cared for customers demands. >_>
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#19
chinmi
wo wo wo.... i never had any problems when any christian related stuff were put in the closet by any game developer in their games... why does the moslems have to make it a problem with theirs...

if i got no problems with mine, they should have no problems with theirs... right ?
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#20
eidairaman1
you know there is always going to be someone who will be offended by something so fuck em. There is a reason why most of those countries dont have things others do. So If the Muslims that are in the 1st world countries are crying about it, well dont buy the games then.
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#21
Shihabyooo
by: chinmi
if i got no problems with mine, they should have no problems with theirs... right ?
2 Persons interviewed on the street, the first doesn't mind his face being shown, the other does. Both are well within there freedom of choice, no ?

Of course, the second fella can always refuse to be interviewed all together. In this case, the interviewer will have to remove him completely from the aired footage. After which the interviewed has no right what so ever to complain.

Do pardon the poor example :o
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#22
XNine
CaseLabs Rep
The last good COD, was COD 2. That's right. I said it. Truth hurts. :b
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#23
eidairaman1
by: Shihabyooo
2 Persons interviewed on the street, the first doesn't mind his face being shown, the other does. Both are well within there freedom of choice, no ?

Of course, the second fella can always refuse to be interviewed all together. In this case, the interviewer will have to remove him completely from the aired footage. After which the interviewed has no right what so ever to complain.

Do pardon the poor example :o
at a Restaurant up north news were trying to interview service members I turned down the interview because i didnt want to be disturbed while I was eating. Also most media love to twist peoples words, or say they say this organization endorsed this person speaking their mind.

For Service members being interviewed the news has to go through Public Relations Department of the Military.
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#24
Rahmat Sofyan
by: chinmi
wo wo wo.... i never had any problems when any christian related stuff were put in the closet by any game developer in their games... why does the moslems have to make it a problem with theirs...

if i got no problems with mine, they should have no problems with theirs... right ?
by: eidairaman1
you know there is always going to be someone who will be offended by something so fuck em. There is a reason why most of those countries dont have things others do. So If the Muslims that are in the 1st world countries are crying about it, well dont buy the games then.
AFAIK this is not about one or a country problem, this is found by one of players and maybe a big fans of COD, and maybe they contact the activison and they ask activison whether could they remove that words.

but you know since the mw release , the story begin in somewhere middle east and I believe that's in muslim country, but no complain about that, BF 3 too... but because in this case there is name of God, maybe some fans feel little bit annoyed.. just maybe, anyway this is just a game buddy, we must know why activision do that and share each other what is the possible reason for that.

ahh yeah in my country, one of the biggest muslim country if may I say .. actually the government and the people don't really care about this issues, because this is not very essential problem :) and perhaps they don't really know at all :D

there is no news about it on our national television, instead I've found it in local game forum. but notting really big reaction about it.

In all, I'm really appreciate the move from activision, they were really care with their fans.

@Shihabyooo : where are you comefrom man :) ?
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#25
KissSh0t
I think Activision don't want to incite anything..

These extremists are insane, you don't wan't to mess with them because they tend to kill people.. Like the 14 year old girl Malala Yousafzai recently shot in the head for speaking out against the Taliban in Pakistan.

They are not normal people, There is seriously something wrong with them.
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