suraswamiRule No.1 - When you see posts like this, just disregard it, or you are going have a headache like this :banghead:

Another person that did NOT READ my last post!
#1 Rule - When posting PLEASE READ! :banghead:

so they got a screen of of it booted into windows at 7Ghz big woop they had to run 2.0v and disable two cores to get it ...
seriously btarunner quit posting these nobody here cares and amd needs to be made to understand they we don't care else they won't ever fix the problems
I am betting I it would be quiet easy to get a 2500k to post at 7.5Ghz the reason you don't see it is because unlike AMD intel did there jobs correctly and there chips don't need to clock 10Ghz to get acceptable performance and they don't draw 500 Watts while doing it

tricksonOkay you missed my point. I think that as it is cool and all it is impractical if you can not use it. Is this OC being used for 24/7 use? NO IT IS NOT! It can not even run a BM! So other than the Epeen what is the real gain? I just do not see it. This also goes for any INTEL chip being overclocked beyond what you can USE it at! It is worthless! Nothing more. Yeah I can AND DO use mine 24/7 with the OC I have, It is WORKING and I see it as a good thing. This however is nothing more than an Epeen OC. :respect:
Oh and I do not recall me being offended at any thing you said. I took all the advice that was given and it worked out great for that I thank You all!

The point is; To show the architecture/technology is capable of achieving those speeds. At the pricepoint this chip is in I think it's quite the feat :cool:

I thought this was a tech forum? :confused:

OneMoarso they got a screen of of it booted into windows at 7Ghz big woop they had to run 1.8v and disable two cores to get it ...
seriously btarunner quit posting these nobody here cares and amd needs to be made to understand they we don't care else they won't ever fix the problems

+1! :toast:

m1dg3tThe point is; To show the architecture/technology is capable of achieving those speeds. At the pricepoint this chip is in I think it's quite the feat :cool:

I thought this was a tech forum? :confused:

Okay. But what GOOD is it if you can not use it? I Just see no point.

AMD is probably using hand picked samples and I would bet my next paycheck that they are having to make quiet a few attempts to get it to boot into windows long enough to start cpu-z submit the validation

OneMoarits not capable of these speeds
the first time you apply ANY-LOAD at that voltage/speed its either gonna
1: crash
2: smoke the chip
I can post my old AM2+ machine at 4.2Ghz if I run 1.6v though the crappy old Althlon II
this is why AMD gets away with this garbage is because people see a screen shot and don't understand that getting it to boot for the 15 seconds it takes to click CPU-z Validate's button is very easy
what CPU-Z needs todo is add a Mild-stress test routine to the validation check say .... 60 seconds at full load .... should be enough to stop this kind of asshattery

I agree. It is NOT capable of running at them speeds.

let me put it another way
if I put a gaming machine up on TPU: for sale and said
this machine comes pre overclocked to to 4.6Ghz on the cpu and 1200Mhz on the gpu
you get it and it crashes in every single benchmark and game and only boots 50% of the time
what would you do ? I be pissed for having been sold something that wasn't what I was tould it was ... this is what AMD is doing ... there taking advantage of people that don't know any better

AND to add insult to injury the chips from intel are just as fast as this one that is with its two core gimped ness and 7Ghz(assuming you could even get it to survive a 3Dmark run )
1. not stable
2.won't last
3.draws Probably close to X3 the power that a 3750k would
4.has two of its cores disabled
just makes no sense for AMD to post this garbage they seem to think we are idiots ...
the tech community needs to band together and say enough is enough
AMD needs to get back to hand building chips and letting there engineers do there jobs

OneMoarso they got a screen of of it booted into windows at 7Ghz big woop they had to run 2.0v and disable two cores to get it ...
seriously btarunner quit posting these nobody here cares and amd needs to be made to understand they we don't care else they won't ever fix the problems
I am betting I it would be quiet easy to get a 2500k to post at 7.5Ghz the reason you don't see it is because unlike AMD intel did there jobs correctly and there chips don't need to clock 10Ghz to get acceptable performance and they don't draw 500 Watts while doing it

Speak for yourself fanboy.
I personally DO want to see ridiculous overclocks like these because it's cool to see. I'm glad that you fap to your 2500k. What you fail to realize is that a lot of the wonderful things you use and take for granted today WAS CREATED BY AMD (64bit and the integrated memory controller most notably) and makes Intel what it is today.

OneMoarlet me put it another way
if I put a gaming machine up on TPU: for sale and said
this machine comes pre overclocked to to 4.6Ghz on the cpu and 1200Mhz on the gpu
you get it and it crashes in every single benchmark and game and only boots 50% of the time
what would you do ? I be pissed for having been sold something that wasn't what I was tould it was ... this is what AMD is doing ... there taking advantage of people that don't know any better to add insult to injury the chips from intel are just as fast as this one that is
1. not stable
2.won't last
3.draws Probably close to X3 the power that a 3750k would
4.has two of its cores disabled
just makes no sense for AMD to post this garbage they seem to think we are idiots ...
the tech community needs to band together and say enough is enough

Funny I thought this was a tech forum where people overclock and try and set new records. Your arguing that a 7.4GHz machine isn't 24/7 is about the dumbest shit I've read on a tech based forum IN YEARS! When I read your posts I seriously wanted to facepalm.
The point of the overclock is to show the possibilities of the chip and that it can clock seriously high. Only an idiot would argue about stability at that clock speed. Stupidest argument in years......seriously.


You should have your techie status removed and replace it with Intel fanboy.

BlackOmegaSpeak for yourself fanboy.
I personally DO want to see ridiculous overclocks like these because it's cool to see. I'm glad that you fap to your 2500k. What you fail to realize is that a lot of the wonderful things you use and take for granted today WAS CREATED BY AMD (64bit and the integrated memory controller most notably) and makes Intel what it is today.




Funny I thought this was a tech forum where people overclock and try and set new records. Your arguing that a 7.4GHz machine isn't 24/7 is about the dumbest shit I've read on a tech based forum IN YEARS! When I read your posts I seriously wanted to facepalm.
The point of the overclock is to show the possibilities of the chip and that it can clock seriously high. Only an idiot would argue about stability at that clock speed. Stupidest argument in years......seriously.


You should have your techie status removed and replace it with Intel fanboy.

WOW, I remember a time (Here on TPU) that people would say if your OC is NOT stable 24/7 than it is NO good. Now AMD comes out with this and you say it is all good? Makes me think just what we have become! My Chip can reach speeds of 4.5GHz but was not stable and was at one time discounted as a "True" Over clock. But NOW since this is an AMD chip it some makes it a true over clock.
Name calling and degrading others is not allowed on TPU, so lets all play nice.
The only thing that would make me change my mind about this AMD over clock is if it was stable on ALL CORE AND 24/7 as well. This means NOTHING at all and does not show any one just how well it really will OC on ALL CORES!

tricksonWOW, I remember a time (Here on TPU) that people would say if your OC is NOT stable 24/7 than it is NO good. Now AMD comes out with this and you say it is all good? Makes me think just what we have become! My Chip can reach speeds of 4.5GHz but was not stable and was at one time discounted as a "True" Over clock. But NOW since this is an AMD chip it some makes it a true over clock.
Name calling and degrading others is not allowed on TPU, so lets all play nice.
The only thing that would make me change my mind about this AMD over clock is if it was stable on ALL CORE AND 24/7 as well. This means NOTHING at all and does not show any one just how well it really will OC on ALL CORES!

My patience runs thin with fanboy's. Doesn't matter which side they're on.

Regardless, it's fairly obvious that what the guy did was a suicide run. Nothing more and nothing less. Literally seeing what could be pulled out of said chip. I would never deem that a "true" or stable overclock. So don't assume that that's what I meant.

Neither the title nor the first post mentioned anything about stability, just stating the speed.

BlackOmegaMy patience runs thin with fanboy's. Doesn't matter which side they're on.

Regardless, it's fairly obvious that what the guy did was a suicide run. Nothing more and nothing less. Literally seeing what could be pulled out of said chip. I would never deem that a "true" or stable overclock. So don't assume that that's what I meant.

Neither the title nor the first post mentioned anything about stability, just stating the speed.

But it is misleading. It gives people a false sense that if they had this chip they would reach heights never before seen and be able to use it. Witch is just NOT the case at all.
Now why not enable all the cores and do this and see just what it can do in reality not just some useless CPU-Z BS. And Yes CPU-Z is BS. Validating a TRUE over Clock is what should be allowed not some thing like this.

BlackOmegaSpeak for yourself fanboy.....a lot of the wonderful things you use and take for granted today WAS CREATED BY AMD (64bit and the integrated memory controller most notably) and makes Intel what it is today.

Before you get totally carried away by the capslock addiction, it's also worth noting that AMD exists now because they started out reverse engineering Intel processors. AMD pretty much took off as an IHV because of Intel licences (8086/8088).


Anyhow, nice OC. I'm sure it should balance out the news of AMD's impending Q3 loss quite nicely.

Dent1You make no sense! Why would you compare a highend CPU with a budget CPU?

Piledriver cores...which are going in the new refreshed line of FX CPU's, I was just making the point that even these new,supposedly improved cores are still going to suck in the non budget AMD range CPU's.

I am trying to figure why Intel chips make any difference to an AMD record who cares if Intel X, Y, Z is better. This is an AMD feat if this bothers that its not stable or not benchmarkable or whatever STOP POSTING YOU MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT.

tricksonBut it is misleading. It gives people a false sense that if they had this chip they would reach heights never before seen and be able to use it. Witch is just NOT the case at all.
Now why not enable all the cores and do this and see just what it can do in reality not just some useless CPU-Z BS. And Yes CPU-Z is BS. Validating a TRUE over Clock is what should be allowed not some thing like this.

Come on now, you've been around long enough to know that any ridiculously high overclock is not stable no matter how much LN2 or LHE you throw at it.
While it may mislead some newbies, anyone that's been around longer than a month will know that.
And yes, CPU-z is BS. Most world records have to, at least, run Super-Pi.

HumanSmokeBefore you get totally carried away by the capslock addiction, it's also worth noting that AMD exists now because they started out reverse engineering Intel processors. AMD pretty much took off as an IHV because of Intel licences (8086/8088).


Anyhow, nice OC. I'm sure it should balance out the news of AMD's impending Q3 loss quite nicely.

Well technically, I'm not sure if they actually reverse engineered anything. From what I know, IBM, at first, commissioned intel to make their CPUs'. So technically Intel is/was using IBM technology. And because IBM didn't want to get stuck having only one developer, they commissioned AMD to make their chips as well.

WHY DON'T YOU LIKE CAPS?????? ;)

cdawallI am trying to figure why Intel chips make any difference to an AMD record who cares if Intel X, Y, Z is better. This is an AMD feat if this bothers that its not stable or not benchmarkable or whatever STOP POSTING YOU MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT.

Bingo. :toast:

When Usain Bolt broke 100m record i don't think people said "pffff... i bet he can't run like that for 5 miles"

Cmon unthuseists, this is competitive overclocking.

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OneMoarso they got a screen of of it booted into windows at 7Ghz big woop they had to run 2.0v and disable two cores to get it ...
seriously btarunner quit posting these nobody here cares and amd needs to be made to understand they we don't care else they won't ever fix the problems
I am betting I it would be quiet easy to get a 2500k to post at 7.5Ghz the reason you don't see it is because unlike AMD intel did there jobs correctly and there chips don't need to clock 10Ghz to get acceptable performance and they don't draw 500 Watts while doing it

intel most definatly did this.....it just so happened sandy bridge hits a cold wall and does not do well under sub zero conditions....

pushing things is what we do as humans....you say why.....i say why not

tricksonWOW, I remember a time (Here on TPU) that people would say if your OC is NOT stable 24/7 than it is NO good. Now AMD comes out with this and you say it is all good? Makes me think just what we have become! My Chip can reach speeds of 4.5GHz but was not stable and was at one time discounted as a "True" Over clock. But NOW since this is an AMD chip it some makes it a true over clock.
Name calling and degrading others is not allowed on TPU, so lets all play nice.
The only thing that would make me change my mind about this AMD over clock is if it was stable on ALL CORE AND 24/7 as well. This means NOTHING at all and does not show any one just how well it really will OC on ALL CORES!

Do you really see the need to keep on about these ocs every time, its a pr stunt obvious, and avg joe wont even see this pr so calmner

badtaylorxintel most definatly did this.....it just so happened sandy bridge hits a cold wall and does not do well under sub zero conditions....

The only thing Sandy Bridge hits is a maximum multiplier of 59 (57 with the original board BIOS's) and a clock generator that ties every bus (PCI-E, RAM, DMI, cache, SPI, PCI, SATA, USB as well as core ) to a 100MHz default. Overclocking limitation is more a product of the multiplier cap and the inability to independently overclock core frequency- as evidenced by the compressed frequency range at the top of SB's OC rankings.

I would have thought that these limitations would be fairly well known by now.

And yes, if there is PR at stake you can guarantee that Intel-as well as any other processor producer and board maker will gladly reap some free marketing/advertising.

CES 2012: Intel demos DX11 on Ivy Bridge based Ult...

:D

HumanSmokeThe only thing Sandy Bridge hits is a maximum multiplier of 59 (57 with the original board BIOS's) and a clock generator that ties every bus (PCI-E, RAM, DMI, cache, SPI, PCI, SATA, USB as well as core ) to a 100MHz default. Overclocking limitation is more a product of the multiplier cap and the inability to independently overclock core frequency- as evidenced by the compressed frequency range at the top of SB's OC rankings.

I would have thought that these limitations would be fairly well known by now.

And yes, if there is PR at stake you can guarantee that Intel-as well as any other processor producer and board maker will gladly reap some free marketing/advertising.

hence the need for the cap.....

This thread is full of douchebaggery. It is almost overwhelming.


That is all.

tricksonMan that is so incredible! Way to go Intel! Say what you will this was a great run for the chip!

OK if Intel uses liquid nitrogen and doesn't quite hit 7Ghz on a chip cos its Intel? Or because you are obviously a fanboi?

tricksonNo it was not! They also used LN not air. No test were done at the 8+GHz at all! Show me some that were done! At least they ran a test on this one at the speed they got. Also they ran ONE CORE on the BD not all of them!

Careful, the nets don't forgets. ;)



On a serious note, my impression of the Trinity in the new laptop is good. I haven't started overclocking it yet though. But boost speed of 3.2Ghz in a laptop, and hard use of flash and the laptop ran for 5 hours.

SteevoThis thread is full of douchebaggery. It is almost overwhelming.


That is all.




OK if Intel uses liquid nitrogen and doesn't quite hit 7Ghz on a chip cos its Intel? Or because you are obviously a fanboi?



Careful, the nets don't forgets. ;)



On a serious note, my impression of the Trinity in the new laptop is good. I haven't started overclocking it yet though. But boost speed of 3.2Ghz in a laptop, and hard use of flash and the laptop ran for 5 hours.

Hmmm. You may not have noticed but at least it (The Intel Chip) made it through a supper-Pi BM !!!!! This (AMD Chip) however did nothing more than make it through a CPU-Z validation!
Sorry sir but you missed that!