Monday, October 15th 2012

Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet

An analyst with Topeka Capital, who was touring Asia, meeting sources among supply chains, brings bad news to Microsoft investors. Analyst Brian White notes that the sentiment (among vendors and parts of the supply chain) about Windows 8 remains "overwhelmingly negative." Expectations from Microsoft's new client operating system plummet, as vendors don't see much activity following the October 26 launch.

"Although October is expected to be the sweet spot for the notebook ramp for Windows 8, and further follow through is likely in November, we were warned of idle facilities in December," notes White. "One of our contacts does not expect Windows 8 to be material until the second-half of 2013," he added. In related news, the industry is also reeling from a disappointing reception from Intel's 2011-12 pet project in the client computing space, Ultrabook. "...the enthusiasm around the Ultrabook ramp has also deteriorated as the cost structure remains too high under Intel's specifications," White notes.Source: Business Insider
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231 Comments on Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet

#1
MeanBruce
by: 3870x2
asshole :D
I try.:D

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#2
Dos101
by: 3870x2
I will say that as a virtual machine, windows 8 is slow as hell (im not talking about the graphics, those are actually just fine)
I had the same issue as you, the workaround was to install it on a physical box. I used vmware workstation 8 which has some comparability issues running Windows 8.

by: Fourstaff
TPU users, no problem. Average joe, I am not so sure.
I see average joes buying Macs left right and center. If they can switch from Windows to Mac and not complain then switching to Windows 8 will be child's play.

by: james888
Some just lack faith in average joe, like myself. Maybe I am just to cynical in that regard.

We are backwards?! In terms of myself, it is not a worthwhile upgrade. I have many arguments as to why it is better than windows 7. I have lurked the win8 club. I have read about what is new. I even played with windows 8 rt a little while. There just is not enough for me to upgrade. No game performance increases. All the pros of windows 8 are just so marginal to me.
One of the big things people are missing is ecosystem. Microsoft is building an ecosystem, just like Apple and Google have. Got a Windows Phone? Got an Xbox? There's a ton of integration between all these devices (WP8 will have it more so than WP7) and that's what Microsoft is building towards.
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#3
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: Easy Rhino
fine, stick with your older and slower operating system. it took me 5 minutes to find a start menu, install it and have it working. tpuers should be ashamed of themselves for being so backwards.
You know the routine Rhino. They will cry like crazy and in 6 months they will all be using it.
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#4
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
by: PopcornMachine
Not sure why you feel you need to attack people over this. :confused:

And not sure why you are happy to use an OS you had to fix out of the box.

I don't find Win 7 to be slow. Just another argument pulled out of nowhere. I would be ashamed if I said something like that.
please dont make this overly dramatic. windows 8 is faster than windows 7. if you value a more responsive and efficient OS than upgrade to windows 8 and spend 5 minutes of your precious porntube time to install a start menu :pimp:
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#5
iLLz
For everyone complaining about the lack of Start Menu, I just don't understand what you need it for. Even Microsoft found that noone launched applications from their anymore with the exception of certain things like Control Panel, and Administrative Tasks.

Good new for those that don't know, there is a Right-Click Context Menu at the lower left hand of the screen where the Start Menu used to be.

* Move mouse of lower left hand corner where start menu used to be
* Once the popup graphic appears for the New Start Screen, simply Right Click the mouse
* A context Menu appears with the following options:

Programs and Features
Power Option
Event Viewer
System
Device Manager
Disk Management
Computer Management
Command Prompt
Command Prompt (Administrative Rights)
-------------------------------------------
Task Manager
Control Panel
File Explorer
Search
Run
--------------------------------------------
Desktop


So Microsoft still made everything that was most commonly launched at the start menu and simply put it in a context menu so Power Users can still have quick access to such things. I use it everyday and I rarely ever go into the start screen unless its to log out.
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#6
3870x2
by: Easy Rhino
please dont make this overly dramatic. windows 8 is faster than windows 7. if you value a more responsive and efficient OS than upgrade to windows 8 and spend 5 minutes of your precious porntube time to install a start menu :pimp:
I bet if you take all the time it took to both install and learn windows 8, it totals to more time than you will save waiting on windows 7 compared to 8. We will all be using windows 8 soon enough, better sooner than later I guess.

The interface looks like it could be quite intuitive, it is not terribly bad looking, and makes great use of shortcuts.

And don't bother arguing, being avid forum users you both should be used to people getting butthurt when something they like or enjoy gets attacked.
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#7
mtosev
who cares what the industry says. i will be buying win8 along with my new pc sometime in next year.
of course that everything made for vista and w7 works on 8
vista NT version 6.0
win7 NT version 6.1
8 NT version 6.2
this means that 8 is just a minor upgrade.the kernel is also probably the same
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#8
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: iLLz
For everyone complaining about the lack of Start Menu, I just don't understand what you need it for. Even Microsoft found that noone launched applications from their anymore with the exception of certain things like Control Panel, and Administrative Tasks.

Good new for those that don't know, there is a Right-Click Context Menu at the lower left hand of the screen where the Start Menu used to be.

* Move mouse of lower left hand corner where start menu used to be
* Once the popup graphic appears for the New Start Screen, simply Right Click the mouse
* A context Menu appears with the following options:

Programs and Features
Power Option
Event Viewer
System
Device Manager
Disk Management
Computer Management
Command Prompt
Command Prompt (Administrative Rights)
-------------------------------------------
Task Manager
Control Panel
File Explorer
Search
Run
--------------------------------------------
Desktop


So Microsoft still made everything that was most commonly launched at the start menu and simply put it in a context menu so Power Users can still have quick access to such things. I use it everyday and I rarely ever go into the start screen unless its to log out.
Why are you posting common sense? This is a windows hate thread. I should report you for being off topic. :laugh:

The search feature was one of the biggest cry baby moments from some users on TPU who "Spent weeks" using Windows 8. Guess Right-Click Context Menu never came to their minds......noobs.
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#9
3870x2
It does kinda feel like it clashes between traditional windows and the new UI a bit.
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#10
james888
by: Dos101
Once of the big things people are missing is ecosystem. Microsoft is building an ecosystem, just like Apple and Google have. Got a Windows Phone? Got an Xbox? There's a ton of integration between all these devices (WP8 will have it more so than WP7) and that's what Microsoft is building towards.
Windows 8 on the surface is fixable. Windows 8 in deep down is marginally different from windows 7. Little reason to upgrade for me. The big picture that you just described is probably the only thing about windows 8 worth discussing. I can admit I am unsure how I feel about having everything integrated.
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#11
PopcornMachine
by: Easy Rhino
please dont make this overly dramatic. windows 8 is faster than windows 7. if you value a more responsive and efficient OS than upgrade to windows 8 and spend 5 minutes of your precious porntube time to install a start menu :pimp:
I'm being over dramatic?

I think that's what I was pointing out about your response.

You call everyone "backwards" as if your panties are in bunch over this.

Why are you being such an ass?
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#12
iLLz
by: TheMailMan78
Why are you posting common sense? This is a windows hate thread. I should report you for being off topic. :laugh:

The search feature was one of the biggest cry baby moments from some users on TPU who "Spent weeks" using Windows 8. Guess Right-Click Context Menu never came to their minds......noobs.
Here is a screen shot for anyone interested.

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#13
3870x2
by: james888
Windows 8 on the surface is fixable. Windows 8 in deep down is marginally different from windows 7. Little reason to upgrade for me. The big picture that you just described is probably the only thing about windows 8 worth discussing. I can admit I am unsure how I feel about having everything integrated.
They could have deployed the 'ecosystem' with a service pack update.

Why do that when there is money to be made?

I am just glad our server 2012 isnt coming with metro. Hell, I might just do server 2012 instead, were it not for the price.
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#14
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
by: PopcornMachine
I'm being over dramatic?

I think that's what I was pointing out about your response.

You call everyone "backwards" as if your panties are in bunch over this.

Why are you being such an ass?
i said don't be over dramatic. i didn't say you were being over dramatic. but now you are so have fun with your old OS.


by: iLLz
Here is a screen shot for anyone interested.

http://i.imgur.com/kSGfF.png
no! right click is too much work for me! windows 7 for LIFEEEEE!
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#15
3870x2
I would like to point out that my righ click doesn't do that, anywhere. All I get is:

view, sort by, refresh, paste, paste shortcut, new, screen resolution, gadgets, and personalize.

Righ clicking on the bar I get toolbars, cascade windows, etc...

What am I doing wrong exactly?

EDIT: I should tell you I can bring this up with win+x.

Also, the search doesnt index everything like the windows 7 search. Any way to change the search to do what windows 7 search does? because it was amazing.
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#16
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: Easy Rhino
no! right click is too much work for me! windows 7 for LIFEEEEE!
Pretty much sums up the sheeple in a sentence.
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#17
Dos101
by: 3870x2
They could have deployed the 'ecosystem' with a service pack update.

Why do that when there is money to be made?

I am just glad our server 2012 isnt coming with metro. Hell, I might just do server 2012 instead, were it not for the price.
Actually no, they couldn't. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share the same kernel, which is also based off the kernel of the OS running on the Xbox 360. That's why certain apps can be shared across all 3 devices, if coded that way.

Also, I thought Server 2012 did have the Start Screen?

by: 3870x2
I would like to point out that my righ click doesn't do that, anywhere. All I get is:

view, sort by, refresh, paste, paste shortcut, new, screen resolution, gadgets, and personalize.

Righ clicking on the bar I get toolbars, cascade windows, etc...

What am I doing wrong exactly?

EDIT: I should tell you I can bring this up with win+x.
Do it in the very left corner and it should work.
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#18
PopcornMachine
by: Easy Rhino
i said don't be over dramatic. i didn't say you were being over dramatic. but now you are so have fun with your old OS.




no! right click is too much work for me! windows 7 for LIFEEEEE!
You work on Java. That explains a lot.
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#19
3870x2
BTW, I am using the 8400 build, and right click isnt doing that. Any ideas?

Also, I love java. It is a bit bloated, but not compared to c#. If Java is a whale, c# is a bloated beached whale.
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#20
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
by: PopcornMachine
You work on Java. That explains a lot.
oh no you didn't ;)
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#21
3870x2
by: Dos101

Do it in the very left corner and it should work.
I found out what my issue is:

I have dual monitor, my right monitor is VMWare with the roaming mouse option. It just moves to the next screen.

Could that be a problem if you were running windows 8 dual screen and your primary desktop was on the right? maybe I should submit a bug report.

NVM, found it. It just takes a while for the START to come up, then you right-click.

FYI WIN + X is an easier way of doing that.
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#22
Dos101
by: 3870x2
I found out what my issue is:

I have dual monitor, my right monitor is VMWare with the roaming mouse option. It just moves to the next screen.

Could that be a problem if you were running windows 8 dual screen and your primary desktop was on the right? maybe I should submit a bug report.
I'll have to try it when I get home to see if I can recreate it, but ya doesn't hurt to submit a bug report, I've found them to be much more receptive to bug reports the past few months.

EDIT: Oh ok awesome, probably cuz you're running it in a VM?
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#23
3870x2
by: Dos101
I'll have to try it when I get home to see if I can recreate it, but ya doesn't hurt to submit a bug report, I've found them to be much more receptive to bug reports the past few months.

EDIT: Oh ok awesome, probably cuz you're running it in a VM?
Thats probably it.
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#24
Kantastic
by: PopcornMachine
Not sure why you feel you need to attack people over this. :confused:

And not sure why you are happy to use an OS you had to fix out of the box.

I don't find Win 7 to be slow. Just another argument pulled out of nowhere. I would be ashamed if I said something like that.
Because he's targeting a demographic that prides itself on tweaking things out of the box...? This is a PC enthusiast forum, from the moment our parts arrive, we start thinking about how to milk it for everything it's worth. We replace coolers, we replace thermal compound, we even replace fans on replacement coolers, and we overclock the shit out of everything, from processors to monitors. Yet, after spending hours upon hours doing all of that, you're bashing Windows 8 because it requires 5 minutes to tweak to make faster than Windows 7? Really? :banghead:
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#25
KainXS
this has nothing to do with tech communities like ours who have shown resistance for whatever reason, this is about casual users(especially older ones) do not like 8, after showing it to like 11 "normal" people only 2 liked it, the did not know how to use it or did not like it, they probably did their own tests to see if "normal" people take a liking to it and the results were bad.

this is what I have seen

but for tablets it works very well, after using one.

I personally might use it though as it did give me a little boost and is a cheap upgrade, other than that thats all it is.
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