Monday, October 29th 2012

DRAM Makers Disappointed in Windows 8

Still reeling with over-production, swelling inventories, and spot-prices on free-fall, the DRAM industry had been banking on Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system launch to come to their salvation. Apparently, it didn't. As is customary with each new Windows launch, orders for DRAM components go up, as PC makers announce new products, and consumers purchase new RAM to upgrade their systems. Windows 8, which is essentially based on the same (albeit slightly tweaked) kernel as Windows 7, isn't really heavier on system resources. Let alone that, Windows 8 in itself is not expected to bring consumers to get a new PC, because Microsoft made it extremely simple and cheap to upgrade Windows 7 to 8. The industry's only real hope now is for hardware makers Intel, AMD, and ARM to introduce platforms that make use of DDR4 DRAM.

Source: Tom's Hardware
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35 Comments on DRAM Makers Disappointed in Windows 8

#1
Dj-ElectriC
Keep being disappointed if all you wish is us using heavier softwares for no reason
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#2
Yukikaze
That is definitely their problem. Also, DDR4 won't solve their problem with over-production and swelling inventories for current DDR3.

I am for one happy that the new Windows is streamlined and not bloated in any way, and does not need more RAM.
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#3
avatar_raq
Please when will the HDD makers get disappointed too? I want HDDs prices to drop!
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#6
dzero
So they are mad that you aren't forced to upgrade to ddr4 ram? Ha.
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#7
RCoon
Gaming Moderator
I dont see how it's M$ fault for NOT making Win 8 RAM heavy... lots of people are now running 8GB RAM with some power users on 16 and above, and that is barely even taken up with games, and when it comes to 3D creation, thats where VRAM comes in. Getting 16GB kits became cheap, so everybody got them. Even home users all went out and got themselves 8GB kits when ordering their home desktops. If their inventories are swelled with DDR3, I would have thought they would hold off on production, surely they must have seen it coming?
As for DDR4, the only people they can complain about is MoBo manufacturers and developers for not including it. And I dare say the only people who will buy DDR4 immediately are the enthusiasts, and exactly how expensive is 16-32GB of DDR4 2133Mhz going to cost? It would probably be more cost effective to remain at DDR3 for the marginal increase in performance.
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#8
LAN_deRf_HA
Not like we need lots of ram anyways. I'm never going to use all 16 gbs I have. I'd say ram drives but outside of benchmarks they don't seem to be faster than a SSD in real world use.
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#9
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
I believe this pic best expresses the frustration that DRAM makers are currently going through....

[spoiler][/spoiler]

WARNING: Pic does contain language that is unsuitable for minors - those with young kids, please cover their eyes or ask them to go play hide and seek (they hide, you seek) before looking at the pic
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#10
SaltyFish
DDR4 support isn't likely to be supported by processors until around 2015 since memory controllers are now built into the processor and those take longer to develop.

My advice to RAM manufacturers... hardware RAM disk.
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#11
3870x2
Maybe DRAM manufacturers should be pushing RAMdisks then.
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#12
Delta6326
Honestly i think 6GB is the realistic cutoff. So 8GB will do just fine, I also wouldn't blame W8 DRAM makers need to realize most people that have a computer are not using it at 100% load all the time or even never. The only use for so much ram now is for big RAMdisk and servers...

I personally have 4GB which was the normal back in 2008 and have never gone over 3.5GB.
Though in my next build I'm going to have min. 16GB or 32GB, but if price is right than 64GB for RAMdisk.
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#13
_JP_
Oh my.
DRAM makers must furious with me, since I still use DDRII.
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#14
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
by: _JP_
Oh my.
DRAM makers must furious with me, since I still use DDRII.
you forgot to add....

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#15
TRWOV
I'll get 16GB of Vengeances. Would that appease the DRAM gods? :D
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#16
suraswami
so they don't to blame Apple?

so somebody will always complain about M$, doesn't matter if they come out with a efficient product or sucky product :laugh:
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#17
hellrazor
by: _JP_
Oh my.
DRAM makers must furious with me, since I still use DDRII.
I still use plain old DDR. I'd like to see the expressions on their faces.
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#18
Sasqui
by: 3870x2
Maybe DRAM manufacturers should be pushing RAMdisks then.
No kidding.
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#19
largon
I'm itching to upgrade from my 4GBs of DDR2. Always running out of memory. Mmmm... How about a nice LGA2011 board with 8×8GB... ¦p~
by: FreedomEclipse
I believe this pic best expresses the frustration that DRAM makers are currently going through....

[spoiler]http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n210/FinalFreedomEclipse/IvyCn.gif[/spoiler]
:D
That clip is from a finnish skit show "Kummeli", skit's name is "Jankon Betoni" (part 1).
Absolutely. Legendary. Finnish comedy.
:rockout:
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#20
p3ngwin1
by: avatar_raq
Please when will the HDD makers get disappointed too? I want HDDs prices to drop!
$150 for 3TB
$90 for 2TB

not cheap enough for ya ?
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#21
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
by: FreedomEclipse
"WHEN LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS...."

When life gives you DRAMs - you make SSDs
Love that lol. Oh well boohoo. PRices are cheap and memory is always an easy upgrade. Sheesh greedy bums.
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#22
Deadlyraver
I cannot believe that Windows 8 has been causing a lot of problems within the market's hardware industry. Because Windows 8 uses the same kernel as 7, it seems almost as relevant as upgrade Vista to 7 awhile back. Performance wise, really.
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#23
p3ngwin1
by: Deadlyraver
I cannot believe that Windows 8 has been causing a lot of problems within the market's hardware industry. Because Windows 8 uses the same kernel as 7, it seems almost as relevant as upgrade Vista to 7 awhile back. Performance wise, really.
Win8 is based on the same Kernel, but it is much improved, just as Win7's Kernel was based on Vista's, and Vista's Kernel based on XP's before it.

Why do you think Win7 ran more efficiently compared to Vista on the same hardware? with the same thing happening with Win8, albeit to a lesser extent.
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#24
Cortex
An OS shouldn't be too demanding in any way. We shall wait for super realistic Xbox next/PS4 ports, Adobe bloatware, 4k video, retina desktop displays that will run those videos...
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#25
2wicked
So they were hoping for a vista re-release to catch people needing to upgrade ram to make their OS run smooth.
Very bad business plan!
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