Monday, November 12th 2012

No DirectX 11.1 for Windows 7?

It looks like Microsoft is using the old DirectX limitation trick to push PC enthusiasts to buy its latest operating system. According to a Hardware Info report that cites a post on Microsoft Answers Forum by Microsoft employee Daniel Moth, the company may restrict DirectX 11.1, of which the newest generation of GPUs from AMD and NVIDIA are compatible with, to Windows 8. Windows 7 users will have to make do with DirectX 11. The move could be a little harsh, as each new version of Windows has access to at least two new DirectX versions. Windows XP saw DirectX 8 and 9.x, Windows Vista DirectX 10 and 11. Microsoft DirectX 11.1 adds a few new features to its Direct3D component. In addition to a vendor-neutral stereo 3D platform, it adds a host of 3D API features.

Source: Hardware.info
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94 Comments on No DirectX 11.1 for Windows 7?

#1
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Wasn't this known already? It feels like I've read about it before.
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#2
natr0n
This is not going to happen being that user base is too large on 7.

Also, not many games are on DX 11 as it is. 11.1 update will be miniscule.
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#3
Completely Bonkers
DX should be separated from Windows, just like Internet Explorer ;)

The only reason to "tie" DX editions down to Windows versions is monopolistic control.

In other news, EU fines MS to help bail out Greece.
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#4
Drmark
Well what else can MS do? Not like they can roll out the "It ain't vista" to sell millions of copies. I have yet to see one reason to upgrade.
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#5
Filiprino
Hahaha, DX11.1 will go the way DX10.1 went. No one will use it.

OpenGL 4.2 all the way.
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#6
Prima.Vera
I am curious about DirectX 12. It will come to Win 7 or not??
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#7
jgrahl
ethically wrong, financially right, wtg micro$oft.
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#8
marsey99
more reason to help steam and origin switch to linux if you ask me.
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#9
eidairaman1
MS makes me laugh honestly, drivers get broken each Windows version, now making it where DX isnt updated (XP had DX8-DX9C). Most Users wont move to 8 Unless if they have a means of removing the Start Screen, most dont appreciate having to buy a software program just to restore Windows 7 Functionality which worked! Also testing here proved to amount no gain in gaming performance over 7, It actually fell a couple of points.
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#10
SaltyFish
by: natr0n
This is not going to happen being that user base is too large on 7.

Also, not many games are on DX 11 as it is. 11.1 update will be miniscule.
Hmm... didn't we get this exact same thing a while back with DX10 and XP? I suspect that, desire for backwards-compatibility, and programmer laziness are the three main reasons why that most games are still on DX9.
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#11
Mindweaver
Moderato®™
Wait.. What? Windows 7 won't get DX 11.1 to play DX 9 console ports? :eek: Well f@ck me.. :roll: and the new consoles will use DX 11 at most... Unless they are saying XBox 720 will use DX 11.1, but still it's a whole year for Windows 8 to flop... I'm using Win8 on a laptop and like it in some ways, but hate it in others.. I just found out Saturday that I would have to purchase the $10 Microsoft Media Player Upgrade to play DVD's.. :banghead: You can get around that by using other players like VLC player, but still the fact that M$ remove DVD playback is still f@cked up.. :banghead:

@[USER=101084]Filiprino[/USER] - I agree with you and think this will go the way of the DX 10.1.. and believe OpenGL 4.2 for the win! :toast:
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#12
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: eidairaman1
MS makes me laugh honestly, drivers get broken each Windows version, now making it where DX isnt updated (XP had DX8-DX9C).
Drivers are the manufacturers responsibility as well as MS. Blame them too.

by: SaltyFish
Hmm... didn't we get this exact same thing a while back with DX10 and XP? I suspect that, desire for backwards-compatibility, and programmer laziness are the three main reasons why that most games are still on DX9.
Wasn't there actual technical reasons for DX10 not making it to XP?
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#13
RejZoR
Only thing they'll achieve with such behavior is to push more users to Linux...
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#14
Dent1
by: Mindweaver
Wait.. What? Windows 7 won't get DX 11.1 to play DX 9 console ports? :
Dude Don't jump the gun.

by: btarunr
Microsoft employee Daniel Moth, the company [SIZE="4"]may [/SIZE]restrict DirectX 11.1
by: RejZoR
Only thing they'll achieve with such behavior is to push more users to Linux...
That won't happen. The choice is stick with Windows 7 and play games just fine under DX10, DX10.1 or DX11 with virtually the same level of detail or run to Linux with a limited support for old games. Which sounds more attrative to gamers?
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#15
RejZoR
Just wait for Steam to hit Linux...
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#16
zAAm
by: jgrahl
ethically wrong, financially right, wtg micro$oft.
+1

As a consumer you still have a choice. If you don't want to move to Win8, don't buy titles that only support DX11.1? It's not like you signed a contract with Microsoft that forces them to provide legacy support... ;) It's all economics...
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#17
dir_d
This article is speaking half truth. Another article stated that DX11.1 needed WDDM 1.2 which is only in windows 8 and is tied into the kernel. It would make perfect sense why DX 11.1 was not offered to windows 7. Also DX11.1 offers some pretty good advantages and will be used when the next generation of consoles comes out.
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#18
DRDNA
lol Microsoft is funny...they will implement DX11.1 into Win 7 as Win 7 Came with DX11 and its 2nd DX update will be DX 11.1 no doubt there at all for me. It may be a little late to the game for Win 7 users but they will get their just reward of 11.1. YOU WILL SEE...;)
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#19
semantics
by: RejZoR
Just wait for Steam to hit Linux...
And the flood of 1 game a year that supports linux to hit steam for linux. You act like steam spurred AAA titles for windows.
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#20
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: RejZoR
Only thing they'll achieve with such behavior is to push more users to Linux...
I don't think so.
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#21
Dj-ElectriC
Dear microsoft :)
F*ck you. Have a nice day :)
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#22
nickbaldwin86
I will stick with W7 and DX11.... DX11.1 isn't worth the wasted efforts that W8 entails. so but I don't need that start button to be 1/3 of my screen :slap:
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#23
Totally
What the big deal? DX releases after 10 are just incremental supersets
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#24
Animalpak
if all you are sure it is not true :mad:... So DAFQ is this news ??? :banghead:
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#25
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
Clearly this is another reason to leverage OpenGL 4 as well as subsequent releases.
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