Thursday, January 24th 2013

AMD "Richland" Desktop APU Lineup Detailed

AMD's A-series "Trinity" line of APUs may have helped make the APU outsell CPUs in 2013, but it won't be long before they're replaced by the new "Richland" A-series APUs for desktops and mainstream notebooks. "Richland" is a tweaked version of "Trinity" which sees AMD stick to the 32 nm process, and retain the "Piledriver" CPU micro-architecture, but increase CPU clock speeds, add a faster DDR3-2133 MHz dual-channel IMC, and integrate a Radeon HD 8000 series Graphics CoreNext iGPU into the silicon. Desktop APU models will take up with A##-6000 series numbering scheme.

The series will be led by AMD A10-6800K, which features every component on the "Richland" silicon unlocked, which includes two "Piledriver" CPU modules amounting to four x86-64 cores, and all stream processors on the iGPU unlocked, with the highest CPU and iGPU clock speeds enabled in the lineup. The iGPU model for this chip is Radeon HD 8670D. The A10-6800K features unlocked multipliers, making overclocking a breeze. Trailing it is the A10-6700, which features all physical components unlocked, but with slightly lower clock speeds, and locked BClk multipler. It features the same iGPU as its bigger sibling, the HD 8670D.

The AMD A8-6000 series consists of the A8-6600K and A8-6500, both of which feature four CPU cores, but slightly toned down iGPU cores, labeled Radeon HD 8570D. The A8-6600K features unlocked BClk multiplier. The next APU in the lineup is the A6-6400K, which is dual-core, features a further scaled down iGPU, bearing the model number Radeon HD 8470D, and unlocked BClk multiplier. Lastly, there's the A4-6300, an entry-level dual-core APU with Radeon HD 8370D graphics. All models with -K extension feature rated TDP of 100W, others 65W.

Moving on to the platform itself, it's known that "Richland" APUs will be built in the same packages as "Trinity," and as such existing A55, A75, and A85X chipset-based motherboards should be able to run them with BIOS updates, yet AMD plans to launch a trio of new FCH chipsets. Leading the pack is the A88X (eight SATA 6 Gb/s ports), followed by A78 (six SATA 6 Gb/s ports), and A68 (probably four SATA 6 Gb/s ports, entry-level).Source: Expreview
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64 Comments on AMD "Richland" Desktop APU Lineup Detailed

#1
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: HumanSmoke
Really? You managed to infer quite a bit didn't you. Pity it was off the mark. Aside from a tongue-in-cheek jab at the propensity that AMD has for PPS/timetable revisions, I don't see anything defensive or supercilious about my post. But if you're willing to ascribe motivation to myself, maybe I should return the favour...so, if anything you're the one getting defensive-You've just noted that you don't know what ยตarch Richland is...yet blast me for using an educated guess, and AMD's own literature.

Actually, it should be the other way around :rolleyes: - and probably what xorbe was attempting to convey to you. VLIW5 predates VLIW4 in DX11 capable GPUs.
The VLIW5 HD 5870 (Cypress GPU) launched 23 Sept, 2009 was the first DX11 card. The VLIW4 HD 6970 (Cayman GPU) launched 15 Dec., 2010.
You would be surprised at how much a ":shadedshu" changes the tone of a post. You're right, they came in the other order, which just adds to the ambiguity of what AMD means by first and second gen DX11 chips, but it does make VLIW4 likely. Either way, we'll have to wait and see. I'm blasting you for using "AMD literature" and making it sound like it's all true, but its a decent guess. I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just saying there is that possibility that you're wrong and we don't know enough to stem that fact.

You're right though. Didn't think about when VLIW4 and 5 were released, you got me on that one. :o
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NeoXF
So apparently desktop Richland APUs are comming out on the 19th of March, Notebook/ultraportable notebook Richland parts on the 7th of May. Kabini in late May, same for Temash it's led to be believed. Also supposedly new FX Piledriver CPUs in June as well.

This according to a news article on Softpedia, who's source is OBR-Hardware at least...

Sounds good to me, was hoping (and speculating) for a faster than June release of desktop Richland anyway. Kinda surprised that desktop parts are releasing first tho.
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#3
HumanSmoke
@[USER=102461]Aquinus[/USER]
The new Richland A-Series APUs are best described as improved Trinity APUs. They're based on the same second-generation "Piledriver" compute cores that had their APU debut in Trinity, and their GPU remains based on the AMD "Cayman" VLIW4 (very long instruction word) architecture.

AMD's Graphics Core Next, which we heard so much about at the company's 2011 Fusion Summit, doesn't make its appearance in Richland..
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#4
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: HumanSmoke
@Aquinus

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So you revived a thread that has been dead for how long to tell me something that was already discussed in this thread why again?
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HumanSmoke
by: Aquinus
So you revived a thread that has been dead for how long to tell me something that was already discussed in this thread why again?
Because your last post seemed to based around proof, or lack of - I thought it was pretty obvious really:
by: Aquinus
I'm blasting you for using "AMD literature" and making it sound like it's all true, but its a decent guess. I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just saying there is that possibility that you're wrong and we don't know enough to stem that fact
So, seeing as how the proof (that seemed to be your point of contention) hasn't actually been presented in the thread, I am now supplying said proof...it also stems from "AMD literature".
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Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
by: HumanSmoke
Because your last post seemed to based around proof, or lack of - I thought it was pretty obvious really:


So, seeing as how the proof (that seemed to be your point of contention) hasn't actually been presented in the thread, I am now supplying said proof...it also stems from "AMD literature".
Seeing how I already admitted defeat, all you're doing is pissing me off.

The thread is over a month old. Look before you post next time and read the entire thread if you're going to do it at least.

by: Aquinus
You're right though. Didn't think about when VLIW4 and 5 were released, you got me on that one.
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HammerON
The Watchful Moderator
Alright you two (HumanSmoke and Aquinus) - Agree to disagree and move along.
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#8
bigbrave
I'm not sure why AMD released Richland as Kaveri will be released later this year. Richland is a refresh of Trinity with better graphics (like they needed them), a little better clock performance and a little better power consumption. Kaveri will be the true replacement for Trinity.

For those of you who (who are Intel fanboys) need to understand, AMD's APUs are faster and much better than the i3s can dream of being. In fact, I would take an A10 or A8 over a Core i7 anyday.

Read this: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1838/1/

You all base your claims on WORTHLESS benchmarks. I base everything on real world results.

This is why in March of 2012 I took back an ASUS (Sandy Bridge) Core i5 and replaced it with an HP AMD A8 (Llano) 3520. The AMD downloaded things much faster and the streaming video was much better. The only down fall to this was giving up an ASUS for an HP. lol Futher more, another example of AMD's real world results would be the link I posted. AMD wins in real world results which is why I tell my customers to buy them over Intel. Too bad Intel pays everybody to not sell many of them.

One thing you Intel fanboys need to understand is if AMD's APUs were half as bad as you all think they are, then why as Intel been copying the idea for the last three years?!
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ur6beersaway
by: bigbrave
I'm not sure why AMD released Richland as Kaveri will be released later this year. Richland is a refresh of Trinity with better graphics (like they needed them). Kaveri will be the true replacement for Trinity.

For those of you who (who are Intel fanboys) need to understand, AMD's APUs are faster and much better than the i3s can dream of being.

Read this: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1838/1/

You all base your claims on WORTHLESS benchmarks. I base everything on real world results.

This is why in March of 2012 I took back an ASUS (Sandy Bridge) Core i5 and replaced it with an HP AMD A8 (Llano) 3520. The AMD downloaded things much faster and the streaming video was much better. The only down fall to this was giving up an ASUS for an HP. lol Futher more, another example of AMD's real world results would be the link I posted. AMD wins in real world results which is why I tell my customers to buy them over Intel. Too bad Intel pays everybody to not sell many of them.

One thing you Intel fanboys need to understand is if AMD's APUs were half as bad as you all think they are, then why as Intel been copying the idea for the last three years?!
FM-2+ socket,(Kiveri), so in a FM-2 board we see no gain? Iv'e about had it. Haswell wins.:banghead:
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#10
erocker
by: ur6beersaway
FM-2+ socket,(Kiveri), so in a FM-2 board we see no gain? Iv'e about had it. Haswell wins.:banghead:
Thing is, they're not really competing to begin with. I got a 5800K a few days ago and I love it. Completely different beast (for the lack of a better term) than Ivy Bridge/Haswell.
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#12
bigbrave
Why did you post a link to newegg for the A10? What's the purpose?

I think you're closer than 6 beers from being a dumb drunk if you think Haswell is in the same class as AMD's APUs. Why compare apples to oranges? Although AMD is a better deal for most people. In fact, unless you just want an awesome fast GAMING system, AMD is the best way to go. However, you Intel fanboys are going to be disappointed because Intel won't build processors that you can overclock very well any more.


SteamRoller will bring a lot of enthusiasts back due to it's high IPC and over clock ability. Also, it's redesigned by Jim Keller who led AMD past Intel back in 2003. He left Apple last August and returned to AMD where he belongs.
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#13
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
by: bigbrave
Why did you post a link to newegg for the A10? What's the purpose?

I think you're closer than 6 beers from being a dumb drunk if you think Haswell is in the same class as AMD's APUs. Why compare apples to oranges? Although AMD is a better deal for most people. In fact, unless you just want an awesome fast GAMING system, AMD is the best way to go. However, you Intel fanboys are going to be disappointed because Intel won't build processors that you can overclock very well any more.


SteamRoller will bring a lot of enthusiasts back due to it's high IPC and over clock ability. Also, it's redesigned by Jim Keller who led AMD past Intel back in 2003. He left Apple last August and returned to AMD where he belongs.
Steamroller was designed well before Jim Keller came back. The same line was fed before bulldozer and piledriver came out neither was able to perform.
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#14
bigbrave
True, SteamRoller was already designed, but Jim made changes to the design as soon as he got back to AMD. That's why it was delayed so the changes could be made.

BullDozer IS a good processor. Try reading the above link and having an open mind doing it. More gamers chose the BullDozer FX 8150 over the Sandy Bridge Core i7 2700k.
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