Saturday, March 16th 2013

NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti Refresh Could Feature GPU Boost and +50% Memory Bandwidth: Report

With AMD looking to turn up the heat (pun unintended) in the sub-$200 market segment, NVIDIA is reacting with a GeForce GTX 650 Ti refresh. According to specifications reported by Bright Side of News (BSN), NVIDIA will make some pretty big changes. While the CUDA core count of 768 is unlikely to change, NVIDIA could introduce GPU Boost, a feature the GTX 650 Ti currently lacks, and increase the memory bus width to 192-bit.

The card could ship with clock speeds of 980 MHz core, 1030 MHz GPU Boost, and 6.00 GHz memory (144 GB/s), compare that to the 925 MHz core and 5.40 GHz memory of the current GTX 650 Ti. NVIDIA is making it a strategic move not to change retail name despite such a major overhaul, so buyers will have to stay on their toes when choosing GTX 650 Ti (thoroughly inspect specifications).Source: Bright Side of News
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24 Comments on NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti Refresh Could Feature GPU Boost and +50% Memory Bandwidth: Report

#1
james888
I would guess that the bios from these could not be flashed to a normal 650ti.

Why cant they just call it a 655ti.
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[502]
by: james888
I would guess that the bios from these could not be flashed to a normal 650ti.

Why cant they just call it a 655ti.
The name hasn't been set in stone. They might call it GeForce GTX650 Ultra!
With 192bit memory bus, now that would be awesome :cool:
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#3
Jorge
I always laugh at the marketing hype... A 50% increase in bandwidth might not make jack for a diff in actual performance except in synthetic benches, but it sounds impressive if you don't know any different.
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Supercrit
by: Jorge
I always laugh at the marketing hype... A 50% increase in bandwidth might not make jack for a diff in actual performance except in synthetic benches, but it sounds impressive if you don't know any different.
Isn't 650ti bottlenecked by memory bandwidth horribly?
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#5
NC37
Sigh...so AMD has a new competitive product...just reprice the others and don't bring in needless excess GPUs. Man I miss the old days of the GPU wars. Days when they didn't make a new GPU for every little thing. Gah. Now its...oh noes, we must meet their "new" product with another "new" product. Keep prices high!

Then we have tons of excess GPUs sitting around when the gen shifts. General consumers completely confused out of their mind with all the number schemes. Manufacturers can't even give them away so they start tinkering around. Come up with stuff like the dual GPU 460s and other oddball products.

I really wonder if they've ever taken a look at the cost of not only dev but also marketing/etc involved with this wasteful cycle they've gotten themselves in. Gah...just give us products that work and stand by them. No incentive to buy early when better products keep being vomited out.

/endrant
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#6
Jack1n
Wouldent this make it really close in performance to the 660?
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#7
Dj-ElectriC
Now try to think of a good name NVIDIA, after you already slapped the term "Ti" on a pathetic piece of hardware :)
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#8
zsolt_93
This sounds like a proper midrange card. I hope it will have the capability to be manufactured in low profile form too. That would demolish the 7750/7770 series not just in perf but also in usability and be worth the probably higher price.
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#9
tacosRcool
by: [502]
The name hasn't been set in stone. They might call it GeForce GTX650 Ultra!
With 192bit memory bus, now that would be awesome :cool:
Or a GTX 650 GS
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#10
xorbe
If true, that's technically a 660 non-Ti refresh with 192 shaders fused off, not a pumped up 650Ti. Should be 120~130W rating.
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#11
GamerGuy
by: zsolt_93
This sounds like a proper midrange card. I hope it will have the capability to be manufactured in low profile form too. That would demolish the 7750/7770 series not just in perf but also in usability and be worth the probably higher price.
Ummm, I may be mistaken, but I think this is nV's knee jerk reaction to AMD's upcoming HD7790.....which has been shown to be within -10% performance of the excellent HD7850.
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blibba
by: xorbe
If true, that's technically a 660 non-Ti refresh with 192 shaders fused off, not a pumped up 650Ti. Should be 120~130W rating.
Except the 650Ti is already the same silicon as the 660, just as the 660Ti is the same silicon as the 670.

Both naming systems are so far gone that it's hardly worth worrying about anymore (not sure what it says about their products when their naming system makes so little sense), but I suppose it would be clearest for the consumer if this was labelled as the 660SE or 650Ultra.
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#13
RejZoR
by: james888
I would guess that the bios from these could not be flashed to a normal 650ti.

Why cant they just call it a 655ti.
Because then you can't rape ppl over buying old and outdated graphic card thinking you're buying a new refreshed one. I bet thats always their tactic. Otherwise they would call it 655Ti.
Besides, why refreshing the least interesting chip!? Pointless. I'd sort of understand refreshing of 660Ti which is sort of interesting card but 650Ti !?
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#14
Ikaruga
192bit with 1.5GB + GPU-Boost would make a pretty decent mid range card - but since it's from Nvidia - I'm almost certain that the price will be too high again.
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#15
techtard
If it's priced the same as current GTX 650 ti cards, I might grab one for messing around on linux.
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blibba
by: techtard
If it's priced the same as current GTX 650 ti cards, I might grab one for messing around on linux.
Might as well use a $20 8800.
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xorbe
by: blibba
Except the 650Ti is already the same silicon as the 660, just as the 660Ti is the same silicon as the 670.
What I meant is that a new 192-bit 650Ti would reuse a 660 card design, not the existing 650Ti card design. ie, starting with a 660 card, there are zero changes to make -- just start bolting on those new chips with the new fuse config. Of course, it's easier to sell "650Ti with more memory bus!" versus "660 with less shaders!" despite what really happens under the hood.

by: blibba
Might as well use a $20 8800.
I didn't see what he said he was going to actually use it for, that's a bit of a leap. You know there is Steam on Linux these days ...
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#18
blibba
by: xorbe
Of course, it's easier to sell "650Ti with more memory bus!" versus "660 with less shaders!" despite what really happens under the hood.
In reality, both are true. The memory bus on the 650Ti is laser-cut from a 660 chip just like the shaders.

by: xorbe

I didn't see what he said he was going to actually use it for, that's a bit of a leap. You know there is Steam on Linux these days ...
None of the Steam for Linux games are especially demanding. I suggested something dramatically cheaper because he said it was for "messing around".
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#19
HumanSmoke
by: Dj-ElectriC
Now try to think of a good name NVIDIA, after you already slapped the term "Ti" on a pathetic piece of hardware :)
I'm hoping Nvidia troll AMD with the GTX 650 XTX Platinum Edition :)
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#20
james888
by: blibba
None of the Steam for Linux games are especially demanding. I suggested something dramatically cheaper because he said it was for "messing around".
My 9800gt is surprisingly capable. It can play a lot of games on medium settings. Not 60fps though for those 60fps or more people.
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#21
DarkOCean
by: Supercrit
Isn't 650ti bottlenecked by memory bandwidth horribly?
no, not really.
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#22
blibba
by: james888
My 9800gt is surprisingly capable. It can play a lot of games on medium settings. Not 60fps though for those 60fps or more people.
Yeah, I only recently stopped using a 9800GTX+ as my main gaming card at 2048*1152. There wasn't really anything it couldn't handle at lowered settings, even if I wanted 60FPS.
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#23
symmetrical
So it's basically going to be an overclocked 650ti?
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#24
symmetrical
by: james888
My 9800gt is surprisingly capable. It can play a lot of games on medium settings. Not 60fps though for those 60fps or more people.
I still have my trusty old 8800GTS 312mb in my nephew's computer, and since he only has a 1280x1024 monitor, he can pretty much play all the modern games just fine.

Sometimes I wish I didn't get used to the 60fps 1080p standard or else I'd get myself a low res monitor with a GTX660 or something and call it a day lol
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