Monday, May 20th 2013

GeForce GTX 780 Pictured Some More

It turns out that NVIDIA's upcoming high-end graphics card, the GeForce GTX 780, is indeed based on the GK110 chip, and to the extant of featuring the same reference-design PCB and cooling solution as the GeForce GTX TITAN. Chinese portal IT168 posted press-shots of the card. If you overlook the "GTX 780" embossing on the cooler, half the number of memory chips, and another very subtle difference, you will easily mistake the GTX 780 for a GTX TITAN.

Pictures reveal the card to feature an ASIC bearing the number "GK110-300-A1," which is rumored to feature 2,304 CUDA cores, 192 TMUs, 48 ROPs, and a 384-bit wide memory interface. Given that the card features just twelve 2 Gbit memory chips, the total memory amount should be 3 GB. The card is said to feature clock speeds of 863 MHz core, 902 MHz GPU Boost, and 6.00 GHz memory, which belts out 288 GB/s memory bandwidth. It draws power from a combination of 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe power connectors. The 4-way SLI-capable card gives out display from a pair of dual-link DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort connectors.
Sources: IT168, Videocardz
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61 Comments on GeForce GTX 780 Pictured Some More

#4
arbiter
by: Casecutter
@2650x 30% is Titan territory now. Figure 15-20%
um, if you look at specs comparison between the 2 cards, 780 is clocked same, only difference its 300 or so less cuda cores so 780 should only be a 5-10% tops slower. more likely 5%.

2304 CUDA cores vs 2688
224 TMU's vs 192

really atm what is limiting most nvidia gpu's atm is memory bandwidth not.

by: radrok
Nvidia is focused on its proprietary compute language, which is CUDA, no wonder they did leave OpenCL so behind.
Opencl was for most part unused, cept for like bitcoin. It was kinda like Opengl.
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#5
Maban
by: radrok
It gave the same impression to me. :toast:
In another thread he says "Lights up too :)"
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#6
Casecutter
by: arbiter
um, if you look at specs comparison between the 2 cards, 780 is clocked same, only difference its 300 or so less cuda cores so 780 should only be a 5-10% tops slower. more likely 5%.
Um, spec's are not confirmed but going off what you said Cuda/TMU are reduced 15% and reference clock is one thing, but where it tops out under boost is where it matters the most.. But, okay Nvidia is giving 5% less than a Titan.... For what price $950 (5% less) as that's only fair to those would ante-up for a Titan 2 months ago, now wouldn't it! :confused:
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#7
ShockG
20 to 25% faster than 680. Titan is still a little too far to catch though, no matter. Custom cards look great and some are already overclocking well enough to close the gap a little.
Neat cards these, but the true gem is GTX 770. Low power draw and some mighty impressive memory clocking in the tune of 8GHz :o Fun times ahead:toast:
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#8
theoneandonlymrk
No suprises, looks good and given they have had reasonable quantities of titan I think nvidia should have sufficient supply.
Hope the price isn't as epic as its spec.
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#9
Fluffmeister
Should be a decent card, hopefully reasonably affordable until AMD bring some real competition early next year.
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#10
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
by: Fluffmeister
hopefully reasonably affordable until AMD bring some real competition early next year.
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#12
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
the 'reasonably affordable' part because Nvidia has already stated that it will cost more than $500


TPU Link - TPU seems to be having some issues at the moment so the link might not work.

Tomshardware - working link
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#13
buggalugs
by: FreedomEclipse
the 'reasonably affordable' part because Nvidia has already stated that it will cost more than $500


TPU Link - TPU seems to be having some issues at the moment so the link might not work.

Tomshardware - working link
haha NVidia will charge a fortune for this. They have to, because they already charged a fortune for titan. But then again its Nvidia, maybe they will just laugh at people who paid $1000 for titan around the world.

Lets just ponder what NVidia has done here. They released titan for an exhorbitant price while planning to release basically the same card as a mainstream card a few weeks later.

Personally I think it sucks, how they kept quiet about the 780, even hinting that titan would be it until the end of the year because AMD are sticking with the 7970 Ghz edition. They would have had both cards being manufactured at the same time. It just shows a total disrespect for customers imo.

I have a NVidia 680 at the moment so Im not a AMD fanboy but NVidia as a company stinks, they pull this stuff time and time again.
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#14
Vlada011
It's time and for me to change graphic card, 5870 go in retirement.
I will look for 780 non-reference but I NVIDIA can drop price little.
It's not fair anymore, PC games are not optimized good and their cards are more and more expensive.
People cross on consoles because optimization of PC games and price of hardware for free gaming.
They would earn more on Titan with 700$ price than 1000.

NVIDIA is real jerks, GTX480(400$)GTX580(500$),GTX680(600$),GTX780(700$),tITAN(1000$) GO TO HELL NVIDIA.
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#15
Fluffmeister
by: FreedomEclipse
the 'reasonably affordable' part because Nvidia has already stated that it will cost more than $500


TPU Link - TPU seems to be having some issues at the moment so the link might not work.

Tomshardware - working link
Well the 7970 costs more than $500 when it launch too, besides it already seems what I consider to be reasonably affordable is different from you. :D

And with Titan selling just fine they really have no need to give these things away either.
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#16
Jacez
by: Vlada011
It's time and for me to change graphic card, 5870 go in retirement.
I will look for 780 non-reference but I NVIDIA can drop price little.
It's not fair anymore, PC games are not optimized good and their cards are more and more expensive.
People cross on consoles because optimization of PC games and price of hardware for free gaming.
They would earn more on Titan with 700$ price than 1000.

NVIDIA is real jerks, GTX480(400$)GTX580(500$),GTX680(600$),GTX780(700$),tITAN(1000$) GO TO HELL NVIDIA.
I've got two problems with nVidia:

1.) Prices keep going up. Unlike in the GTX 295 days, where the newest card was 500-600$ and the older card went down to 250-300$.. these days the older card remains at 500-600$ and the newer card goes up to 1,000$. WTF:wtf:

2.) The name. Seriously? Titan? Why? Every other card they've ever created has been numbered and now all of a sudden.. Titan? This goes hand-in-hand with my first point to say that nVidia is seriously high on their own farts right now.
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#17
Vlada011
I don't know price of 600$ and 650$ for non-reference models is more than enough for NVIDIA.
But why they do this, I don't know.
It's not good today in this economic situation they give price over 700$ for non-reference single GPU card. That is abnormal behavior, no excuse for that.
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#18
radrok
by: buggalugs
But then again its Nvidia, maybe they will just laugh at people who paid $1000 for titan around the world.
As much as I would've liked Titan to be 300-400 usd/eur cheaper I can honestly say that card is still a bargain, yes a bargain.

Why? It is essentially an uncrippled CUDA card that otherwise would've costed 3k.

I can probably bet that the biggest part of the Titan volume sold by nvidia has been bought for compute.


by: buggalugs

Lets just ponder what NVidia has done here. They released titan for an exhorbitant price while planning to release basically the same card as a mainstream card a few weeks later.

Personally I think it sucks, how they kept quiet about the 780, even hinting that titan would be it until the end of the year because AMD are sticking with the 7970 Ghz edition. They would have had both cards being manufactured at the same time. It just shows a total disrespect for customers imo.
I don't think that Titan customers will feel scammed even after a GTX 780 release. I surely won't. Why?

Titan and the GTX 780 are essentially in a different position, while they may seem very similar they are hugely different.

6 GB VRAM really helps you to set up a high poly scene while rendering, I often go in excess of 4-5 GB when working with complex scenes.

I also happen to play games at a higher resolution than most people and I often see more than 3GB used and the additional horsepower Titan provides, even if 10-15%, is more than welcomed.

If nvidia released the GTX 780 and the Titan the same day I would still have bought Titan and I bet I'm not the only one.


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#19
TheHunter
by: radrok
As much as I would've liked Titan to be 300-400 usd/eur cheaper I can honestly say that card is still a bargain, yes a bargain.

Why? It is essentially an uncrippled CUDA card that otherwise would've costed 3k.
So was 580GTX and yet it sold for you know how much..
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#20
Fluffmeister
by: TheHunter
So was 580GTX and yet it sold for you know how much..
Double precision performance is restricted on consumer orientated GeForce cards.
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#21
Casecutter
by: buggalugs
Lets just ponder what NVidia has done here.
I'm seeing the same way...
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2897972#post2897972

And noooo-one (of use) knows how strong or many Titans have sold at the point. If Nvidia offered-up 10% in Titian units, that they’ve sold of GTX680’s, I'd be surprised.

So it's speculation to say it's a truly "viable" profit product for Nvidia, and may well been entered into the market for its marketing "justification" of the bins of geldings they absolutely need to divest of. If move (780's) at say something of just 20% of what has been GTX680 units sales, while getting 45-50% more for them... mission accomplished.
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#22
theoneandonlymrk
by: buggalugs
haha NVidia will charge a fortune for this. They have to, because they already charged a fortune for titan. But then again its Nvidia, maybe they will just laugh at people who paid $1000 for titan around the world.

Lets just ponder what NVidia has done here. They released titan for an exhorbitant price while planning to release basically the same card as a mainstream card a few weeks later.

Personally I think it sucks, how they kept quiet about the 780, even hinting that titan would be it until the end of the year because AMD are sticking with the 7970 Ghz edition. They would have had both cards being manufactured at the same time. It just shows a total disrespect for customers imo.

I have a NVidia 680 at the moment so Im not a AMD fanboy but NVidia as a company stinks, they pull this stuff time and time again.
Only the uninformed could be blind to this happening, heads up for ya gk110 and in general keplar type gpus (different bins thereoff) are going to be nvidias mainstay for quite some time yet , maxwell gpu architecture is slipping down their schedule so fast its painfull to watch.
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#23
Fluffmeister
by: theoneandonlymrk
Only the uninformed could be blind to this happening, heads up for ya gk110 and in general keplar type gpus (different bins thereoff) are going to be nvidias mainstay for quite some time yet , maxwell gpu architecture is slipping down their schedule so fast its painfull to watch.
Source?
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#24
theoneandonlymrk
by: Fluffmeister
Source?
I'm not one of those hunt the interwebz for you kinda Speculators , do your own hunting , semiacurate seams to have a cob on with nvidia for a start but I read so much tech news from so wide a range of site's id struggle to find some of it again as ive been watching for years as have many and if a few others haveing contacts are saying exactly what im deduceing then its the gk110 version of the g92 era.

But for clarity these be my opinion! Mostly:).
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#25
TheHunter
by: Fluffmeister
Double precision performance is restricted on consumer orientated GeForce cards.
So is GK110 geforce chip according to nvidia, only Telsa version has its max DP perf., same case was with GF110 geforce variant.
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