Sunday, June 16th 2013

Microsoft Pulls a Fast One with E3 Xbox One Demos

With its focus on on-demand entertainment at the expense of gaming prowess, Xbox One didn't impress gamers at E3, who instead flocked to Amazon to pre-order their PlayStation 4, which not only features faster hardware, that could translate to better visuals in gaming, but is also a whole 20 percent cheaper ($499 vs. $399). At E3, Microsoft tried to pull a fast one. It set up several gaming stations allegedly powered by Xbox One, where gamers could play unreleased Xbox One games using the new Xbox One controller, just to get a feel of how rich and smooth the graphics really are. Some of them fell for it, others didn't. When these peeping toms didn't find the screens wired to an Xbox One main unit, they yanked open the cupboards below, only to find a full-fledged Windows 7 gaming PC.

How full-fledged you ask? Keen observers across the forumscape made out a rig powered by an Intel LGA2011 processor, which could at least be a Core i7-3820, and an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 700 series reference design graphics card, which could at least be a GeForce GTX 770. Such a system would obviously give you a rich and smooth gaming experience.

Microsoft Xbox One features a custom-designed application processor by AMD, which combines eight 64-bit x86 cores based on the "Jaguar" micro-architecture, with a GPU that packs 768 Graphics CoreNext stream processors, and a unified quad-channel DDR3-2133 memory interface, holding 8 GB of memory. This memory is cushioned by a large 32 MB SRAM cache on-die. In comparison, Sony's PlayStation 4 features a custom-designed application processor, too, which features the same CPU portion, but a bigger graphics core with 1,152 stream processors, and a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface, holding 8 GB of RAM, which can be used as both main and graphics memory. On top of all that, the PlayStation 4 is $100 cheaper, at $399.Source: Gaming Blend. Many Thanks to Fluffmeister for the tip.
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161 Comments on Microsoft Pulls a Fast One with E3 Xbox One Demos

#1
Prima.Vera
Win 8 runs 2x times better on laptops than Win 7. Specially on older ones. Just saying...
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scoutingwraith
by: MatTheCat II
This would be really funny if it happened.

I would install it and game on it just to spite Microsoft. I am p1ssed with them right now for forcing me to use Windows 8 on my new laptop.
You know somebody will try if they can get their hands on the OS image or source code for it. I am positive that somebody will try to emulate it if they can. The question will all come down to how to manage the difference in how the X1 and PC are different in architecture in both the OS and system.
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MatTheCat II
by: Prima.Vera
Win 8 runs 2x times better on laptops than Win 7. Specially on older ones. Just saying...
Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, that doesn't change the fact that the only way to make Windows 8 tolerable, is to use a 3rd party program that enables the user to circumnavigate all the Metro UI and its nonsense apps and proprietary stores that Microsoft is trying to ram down our throats.
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Prima.Vera
by: MatTheCat II
Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, that doesn't change the fact that the only way to make Windows 8 tolerable, is to use a 3rd party program that enables the user to circumnavigate all the Metro UI and its nonsense apps and proprietary stores that Microsoft is trying to ram down our throats.
Agree. I just use the free Classic Shell program which have all the tools required to make Win 8 just the way should be. Works flawlessly. ;)
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rtwjunkie
by: MatTheCat II
the only way to make Windows 8 tolerable, is to use a 3rd party program that enables the user to circumnavigate all the Metro UI and its nonsense apps and proprietary stores that Microsoft is trying to ram down our throats.
Couldn't agree more! I use Start8 and ModernMix on my W8 testbed, and it's made it a fairly nice operating system.
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#6
Ahhzz
by: Prima.Vera
Win 8 runs 2x times better on laptops than Win 7. Specially on older ones. Just saying...
:roll::roll::roll::roll:

I've noticed that win 7 runs better than win 8 on laptops. Just saying...

Just out of curiosity, what makes win8 a better os for standard PC's than win7? (not tablets, not win-phones, not touchscreen laptops, standard, home-use, gaming or otherwise).
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#8
AsRock
TPU addict
Frame rate meter on that PS4 vid looks like it's fake, how ever the game they were playing seemed to play nicely which should be the main concern.
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#9
Prima.Vera
So is true that the PS4 have a frame cap at 30fps??????
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newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
by: AsRock
Frame rate meter on that PS4 vid looks like it's fake, how ever the game they were playing seemed to play nicely which should be the main concern.
It was added later using analysis tools that analysed the footage to figure out the framerate.

And the Need for Speed footage didn't look that smooth, but that seems like a frame syncing issue.

by: Prima.Vera
So is true that the PS4 have a frame cap at 30fps??????
Probably, but as long as the games look smooth I don't care. It will actually look smoother to have the games locked at 30FPS then it will to have them jumping back and forth between 60 and 30FPS.
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#11
Black Knight77
by: YogurtMaster
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. The Alpha dev kits were using similar components. The game will look the same. It's a common practice in the INDUSTRY!

You guys are killing me with your ignorance. This happens at EVERY LAUNCH E3, it is standard stuff.

They are not trying to trick anyone. E3 is at a weird time of the year when the code is not finished or even near finished. All the developers are still working on the game while E3 is going on, they just needed to provide a stable branch of code and probably used a development kit or a pseudo development kit to run the code.

Every person here should

1) learn how to code games
2) Should go behind the scenes at E3 and find out what is really going on behind the curtains.

E3 is really an awkward time for developers because they are still using old hardware and still providing either demos to take time out of coding for the game for weeks to just provide a simple demo that may not be in the final game and is on old pieces of hardware.
Ok let me put this simply for you since you think there not triing to trick anyone, First off, processor wasnt an AMD period, yes there is a huge difference in processors from AMD and from Intel. Secondly using a GTX 770 video card, are you kidding me, look at the specs of the XBone and tell me where that video card is at on the specs and tell me why you think that video card is NOT over powered compaired to what is in the XBone. I had to make a screen name just to respond, I own THREE xbox 360s and I am not a fan boy. Heck my dell laptop with SLI can play games better then my 360 could. Simply put MS screwed up, they new what the other party was doing and let them do it, honestly IF i decide to buy a gaming console it will NOT be a XBone, for many other reason this excluded. I could see if MS had a PC that had a CLOSE AMD processor with a built in GPU or a separate card that was equal to there GPU but come on man, you have no leg to stand on, they where using INTEL and Nvidia products that are way better then what is in the consoles.
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