Thursday, July 25th 2013

Dell Precision M3800 Goes Official, 3200 x 1800 Display Confirmed

Last week we had reported that Dell is working on a new power-packed mobile workstation dubbed the Precision M3800. At SIGGRAPH, Dell will take the wraps off their next-generation portable workstation. On their corporate blog, the company confirmed much of the rumored specifications which include:
  • 4th Generation Intel Core i7 quad-core CPU
  • NVIDIA Quadro GPU
  • 16GB RAM
  • QHD+ (3,200 x 1,800) multi-touch display
  • 1TB HDD, or 512GB SSD
Despite being loaded to the brim, the Dell Precision M3800 will compress everything into a 0.7" thick body, which weighs in at 4.5 pounds. There's still no word on the pricing, but that should slip out soon. Whatever it'll be, it sure won't be cheap.

Source: Dell Community
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21 Comments on Dell Precision M3800 Goes Official, 3200 x 1800 Display Confirmed

#1
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
The biggest gripe isno keypad, on a system like that. No keypad on a 15 inch laptop these days... It might have one though.
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#2
Prima.Vera
I'm guessing its using a Samsung panel, since they already release a laptop with that resolution.
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#3
Over_Lord
News Editor
I'm using a 1600x900 14" display. Wonder how 4x the resolution would feel
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#4
matar
Eat that apple with so called highest resolution 2880x1800 MacBook.
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#5
Prima.Vera
by: matar
Eat that apple with so called highest resolution 2880x1800 MacBook.
Thing is OSX doesn't have scaling problems like Windows have...
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#6
Solidstate89
The lack of a Num-Pad is still the biggest problem with this notebook. Dell doesn't seem to realize just how important that is for those us who work with CAD Programs all day long. If I had to input all of my dimensions and constraints using the top row of numbers I'd chuck the damn thing at a wall in less than 15 minutes.
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#7
lemonadesoda
(3,200 x 1,800) I like, now give it to me in a 21" format as a desk monitor. And yes, my GPU can handle that as a desktop resolution and can game at 1600x900 quite well (native pixel scaling)
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#8
repman244
The drawback is no numpad. It seems Dell made this model as a semi-workstation.
However this is a new model, so I guess 4xxx and 6xxx models will have it.
And there are rumors that only the M3800 will have this display, the 6800 will probably only have 1080p.
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#9
Prima.Vera
by: lemonadesoda
And yes, my GPU can handle that as a desktop resolution and can game at 1600x900 quite well (native pixel scaling)
That's an urban legend. From experience I am telling you that the image it will look like crap, blurry and aliased. :rolleyes:
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#10
Black Panther
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I was hoping that was a 37" monitor... (sans notebook attached ;) )
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theonedub
habe fidem
by: Prima.Vera
That's an urban legend. From experience I am telling you that the image it will look like crap, blurry and aliased. :rolleyes:
Truth. 720 on my 1440 looks awful in games. Honestly can't tell if the same holds true for video.
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lemonadesoda
by: theonedub
Truth. 720 on my 1440 looks awful in games. Honestly can't tell if the same holds true for video.
Perhaps you are suffering "consumer" product. I have an Eizo y1600 that does some pretty perfect scaling with y800 input. I just checked this Samsung, and it is OK but yes the scaling is giving me that "analog" not "digital" feeling. I can see some sampling going on in the scaler which could be much better. I guess it is designed as a one-fits-all scaler that doesn't have the best methods for integer scaling. I can imagine a consumer grade nasty y1080 or y1440 doing some nastiness.

So I guess is depends on the monitor. Thanks for the warning... will check reviews carefully before buying next TFT. :pimp:
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phanbuey
by: theonedub
Truth. 720 on my 1440 looks awful in games. Honestly can't tell if the same holds true for video.
Nope - not true at all... have the retina macbook - and compared the 1440x900 on my native macbook pro to the 1440x900 mode on the Retina in LoL and Xcom, and there is no difference between the two.

Yes 1440x900 looks more pixelated than 2880x1800, but thats because after seeing something at 2880x1800 everything else looks like sandpaper to your eyes, if you compare native 1440x900 to simulated 1440x900 at 2880x1800 there is no visible difference side by side (the retina still looks better color-wise since its an IPS screen).

The dell will be the same. On a different note, font scaling in windows 7 is not really an issue 2880x1800 renders just fine, Remote Desktop connection is totally broken though, everything is tiny.

by: Prima.Vera
That's an urban legend. From experience I am telling you that the image it will look like crap, blurry and aliased. :rolleyes:
I don't know what experience you're talking about, but I have them here side by side, and they are identical. Looking at them now I can't believe I used that shitty screen for so long.

If you don't do a side-by-side comparison, of course the image will look like blurry crap when you downscale... you just went to 1/4 of the resolution as you were looking at something. Your eyes will immediately pick up on the crapification - but that is really what 1440 screens look like - they look like crap.
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theonedub
habe fidem
by: phanbuey
Nope - not true at all... have the retina macbook - and compared the 1440x900 on my native macbook pro to the 1440x900 mode on the Retina in LoL and Xcom, and there is no difference between the two.

Yes 1440x900 looks more pixelated than 2880x1800, but thats because after seeing something at 2880x1800 everything else looks like sandpaper to your eyes, if you compare native 1440x900 to simulated 1440x900 at 2880x1800 there is no visible difference side by side (the retina still looks better color-wise since its an IPS screen).

The dell will be the same. On a different note, font scaling in windows 7 is not really an issue 2880x1800 renders just fine, Remote Desktop connection is totally broken though, everything is tiny.



I don't know what experience you're talking about, but I have them here side by side, and they are identical. Looking at them now I can't believe I used that shitty screen for so long.

If you don't do a side-by-side comparison, of course the image will look like blurry crap when you downscale... you just went to 1/4 of the resolution as you were looking at something. Your eyes will immediately pick up on the crapification - but that is really what 1440 screens look like - they look like crap.
Maybe it looks fine when you are dealing with small screens like on the Macbook and this Dell (where pixel density is high), but the three of us were discussing how this would work on something larger, like a 21" screen Lemon mentioned.

I've tested this many times on my U2713HM UltraSharp, and by no means does a game rendered at 720P look fine scaled to 1440P (4x pixel bump, 4:1 pixel scaling).

Nevermind, just saw your edit- you're one of those people. Thanks for wasting my time.
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#16
phanbuey
by: theonedub
Maybe it looks fine when you are dealing with small screens like on the Macbook and this Dell (where pixel density is high), but the three of us were discussing how this would work on something larger, like a 21" screen Lemon mentioned.

I've tested this many times on my U2713HM UltraSharp, and by no means does a game rendered at 720P look fine scaled to 1440P (4x pixel bump, 4:1 pixel scaling).

Nevermind, just saw your edit- you're one of those people. Thanks for wasting my time.
So sorry to waste your precious time.

I was just saying that this would play a role. Get a real 27 inch that renders natively at 720P - a Monitor - not a HDTV - if you can even find one and then compare.
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#17
theonedub
habe fidem
You don't understand what we are talking about. People seem to think that since we have a 4:1 pixel ratio, the 1/4 res image will look just as good as the native resolution when scaled up. That is not the case.

I get that you are saying 1440x900 on a 15" display looks the same as 1440x900 scaled on your 2880x1800 display- but that's not what we are talking about at all.

Your post goes off in some wild MacBook Retina tangent that no one was interested in.
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phanbuey
by: theonedub
You don't understand what we are talking about. People seem to think that since we have a 4:1 pixel ratio, the 1/4 res image will look just as good as the native resolution when scaled up. That is not the case.

I get that you are saying 1440x900 on a 15" display looks the same as 1440x900 scaled on your 2880x1800 display- but that's not what we are talking about at all.

Your post goes off in some wild MacBook Retina tangent that no one was interested in.
I understand exactly what you are talking about - the reason i brought up the retina was because that is the most recent experience I have had on this panel.

If you take a 27 inch MONITOR (since TV's will smooth out the 720P image) at 720P native, and then compare it to a 27 inch monitor running a 720P image on a 1440P it should be exactly the same unless there are upscaling issues on the monitor.
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#19
theonedub
habe fidem
Again, thats not what we were talking about. Thanks.
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#20
phanbuey
by: theonedub
Again, thats not what we were talking about. Thanks.
ok then... please clarify - you are posting in a thread about a 15" laptop display and you said:

"Truth. 720 on my 1440 looks awful in games. Honestly can't tell if the same holds true for video."

its so clear what ur talking about :slap:
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#21
Prima.Vera
by: phanbuey

If you take a 27 inch MONITOR (since TV's will smooth out the 720P image) at 720P native, and then compare it to a 27 inch monitor running a 720P image on a 1440P it should be exactly the same unless there are upscaling issues on the monitor.
Aaaa....NOUP!

I tested this with a 40" 1080p native TV and a 40" 2160p native TV at the local store. While the pictures and UltraHD movies were looking way way better on the 2160p TV, very sharp and detailed, when it came to standard HD TV or games things changed dramatically. The HD TV signal was looking almost identically on both TVs, but the 1080p game was looking so much worse on the 2160p TV.
So no more legends please.
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