Sunday, January 8th 2017
AMD Says "ZEN" CPU Architecture is Expected to Last 4 Years
After spending almost 4 years developing and perfecting (as much as can be perfected in such an amount of time) it's ZEN CPU architecture, AMD is looking to extract some mileage out of it. Mark Papermaster, AMD's chief technology officer, confirmed the four-year lifespan in a conversation with PC World at CES 2017 in Las Vegas, though he declined to discuss specifics. When asked how long ZEN would last (especially comparing to Intel's now-failing two-year tick-tock cadence, Papermaster confirmed the four-year lifespan: "We're not going tick-tock," he said. "ZEN is going to be tock, tock, tock."
Intel's tick-tock cadence has typically meant that it develops a new micro-architecture every two years (tock), with a process improvement in-between architectures (the tick). Of these, Kaby Lake is the first exception, ushering in a second "tick" moment for the company, which leveraged what it calls its "14 nm +" manufacturing process. AMD, on the other hand, has typically drawn more than 4 years worth of products from most of its micro-architectures (even Bulldozer has lasted from late 2011 until now), with AMD focusing in incremental updates in-between major architecture launches (such as Bulldozer's Piledriver, Steamroller, and Excavator updates).
On Papermaster's words, it seems AMD is planning to iteratively improve its Ryzen chips through some additional generations - whether at the cadence of their Bulldozer architecture or not, remains to be seen, but it can be expected that that will be the case. What those improvements will be, of course, are for now anyone's guess. But Papermaster also said he's a believer in architecture improvements that go beyond simple manufacturing - something he's previously referred to as "Moore's Law Plus."
In interviews, Mark Papermaster referred to this as the industry's failure to achieve Moore's law through transistor shrinking alone - as had been historically the case. Moore's Law Plus means that chipmakers will have to find creative, less-streamlined ways of inching closer to what Moore's Law (in its Intel's David House coating, who predicted that chip performance would double every 18 months) stipulates. According to Papermaster, "It will be ingenuity at the system level to put solutions together. It might be combinations of CPU and GPU, other accelerators, different memory configurations, how they're pieced together - there's room for lots of innovation at the next level."
We're actually seeing hints of that with AMD's upcoming VEGA architecture's additions of a High-Bandwidth Cache (HBC) and an High-Bandwidth Cache Controller (HBCC): of which you can have an excellent read right here at TechPowerUp. How this will translate with the CPU side of the equation, and what this means for AMD's ZEN or forthcoming CPU architectures, however, remains to be seen.
Source:
PC World
70 Comments on AMD Says "ZEN" CPU Architecture is Expected to Last 4 Years
Another month full of blahblahblah
lolAMD 4 years .... I have core2duo systems that are 8 and still seeing regular use
pretty please :clap:
Node swaps and tweaks are not a new arch.
If you guys seriously think Intel hasn't improved in 6 years I would love to see you design your own CPU and compete with them.
Atleast thru 2020 - good, good, i'll upgrade in 2019 then, just have this thing benchmarked, AIDA64, HWInfo, Prime95, CPU-Z torture/bench thingie/validation, Unigine's Heaven 4.0 & that new one soon-to-come-out forgot name @ 4k - just bring it. :)
And he said Tock, Tock, Tock
Then 6 years for a lifecycle?
Also, perhaps their second biggest gain is coming from chip learning and they are hoping to expound on that for future iterations of this core design?
I remember when performance was doubled every 2 years. Get off my lawn!