Friday, April 20th 2007

Intel CPU's have OC black box

A few big retailers and etailers have confirmed that Intel actually can check if you overclocked your CPU. When you burn your CPU Intel asks its retailers and etailers to return the CPU back to its factory. Intel then reads data from a hidden part of the CPU, and instantly finds out if the CPU has been overclocked or overvolted.

Retailers and etailers said that they are not sure about Intel's methods of judging who gets the new CPU, but they said that Intel gets back to them if you overclocked too much, and simply refuses to RMA the part.Source: Fudzilla
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33 Comments on Intel CPU's have OC black box

#1
hotrippr
I dont believe it, think it is a scare tactic, no. I am french, no.

thanks for the tips on how to pull the cpu heatspreader off, that thing sucks, I hope one day the heatspreader will rip off for me. I was going to try a blow torch but if AS5 does the trick then I will have to give it a nice strong yank. F-that stupid concaved IHS:nutkick:
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by: D007
actually thats dell promoting overclocking.. not intel.. i dont think gates will promote it lol.. if he does then he cant sell his 1000 dollar chips as easy when people find out the 200 dollar ones can do just as well with some extra cooling. It'd be nice but unlikely.. idk though, maybe theres some articles about it somewhere. trolling today anyone? lol..
gates doesnt own intel....
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Zubasa
by: jydie
Okay... now I am going to have to take advantage of the knowledge you all have. :)

I guess I never really looked at sites when it comes to installing the heatsink, it seemed rather obvious to me. I do not use the high end CPU coolers... just the basic one that comes with the AMD (socket 939 or 754) CPU. Once installed, I am only able to turn the heatsink about .5 cm because the plastic support attached to the motherboard gets in the way. It also prevents me from sliding a credit card or something like that in between the CPU and heatsink to break the seal. It seems as though the only option I have is to slowly pry it up.

What am I doing wrong? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!!! :respect:
In this case you can only pull it off.
Make sure you pull it strait up so you don't bend the pins.

One time I actually bend a dozen pins on my s939 and need to bend them back manually.:p
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#4
WeStSiDePLaYa
I call fake.

Why would intel implement a feature that would not only cost in developing, but take up precious wafer space,

when the amount of people who overclock is absolutely tiny compared to entire sales.

It does not make sense at all from a business standpoint, as they would spend more money in the development, and wafer space, than they would recoup by refusing certain RMA's.

not to mention the article gives no sources what so ever. So the entire thing could easily have been fabricated.
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OnBoard
by: jydie
Okay... now I am going to have to take advantage of the knowledge you all have. :)

I guess I never really looked at sites when it comes to installing the heatsink, it seemed rather obvious to me. I do not use the high end CPU coolers... just the basic one that comes with the AMD (socket 939 or 754) CPU. Once installed, I am only able to turn the heatsink about .5 cm because the plastic support attached to the motherboard gets in the way. It also prevents me from sliding a credit card or something like that in between the CPU and heatsink to break the seal. It seems as though the only option I have is to slowly pry it up.

What am I doing wrong? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!!! :respect:
Like Zubasa said, boxed cooler makes thing alot more complicated, not having the room to twist&shout :P But to help the process of pulling it without prosessor following do some CPU burning test before you take it off. CPU Burn-in is a nice little proggie for that http://users.bigpond.net.au/cpuburn/ or prime95/any other CPU torture test. 15min should get the thermal paste nice and hot and should help the heatsink come off much easier. Now take side panel off before you start and case already on sideways helps to get the heatsink out as soon as you've stopped the test and turned puter off + taken power cord out.
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Dippyskoodlez
by: WeStSiDePLaYa
I call fake.

Why would intel implement a feature that would not only cost in developing, but take up precious wafer space,

when the amount of people who overclock is absolutely tiny compared to entire sales.

It does not make sense at all from a business standpoint, as they would spend more money in the development, and wafer space, than they would recoup by refusing certain RMA's.

not to mention the article gives no sources what so ever. So the entire thing could easily have been fabricated.
I too doubt theres a "detection" method for this, aside from maybe a voltage fuse for extreme conditions. (As a surge could possibly cause more harm than a dead cpu)

Along with the fact, Overclocking is based around finding the weakest link. With multiple millions of transistors, you would have to have a detection point for every possible point of failure, making this a nusance rather than a feature.

And would actually, be likely to provide a HIGHER return rate.



by: kwchang007
can they also detect undervolting? or not, because your cpu undervolts itself when it drops mulitpliers to save energy...hmm i wonder.
No need to. Undervolting isn't a concern. all its going to do is be unstable, and continue to work at proper speeds/volts. If you kill your CPU from "undervolting" you're only fooling yourself.
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#7

Who cares? Nobody kills CPUs unless they are idiots, and idiots don't deserve new CPUs!
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#8
Mussels
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At best, i think people were right on the fuse count.

say stock volts was 1.3V - if the CPU hit 1.5V or higher, the fuse goes, without stopping the CPU working

If a warranty came in that looked suspsicious, they could go to the effort of checking it out. but with something so small, its not financially viable to pop out an electron microscope or whatever for a single CPU. (or however they test it)
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