Monday, April 30th 2007

AMD’s debt piling up

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Jimmy 2004
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Chip maker AMD is struggling financially at present, largely due to the $5.4 billion acquisition of ATI last year. The company had already reported a net loss of $611 million for the quarter ending March 31st, but it has now been forced to raise finance by offering Convertible Senior Notes to investors. These differ from stocks because AMD will have to pay back the money it has raised once its stocks hit a price of $42.12 (the current price is at $14) which is essentially plunging the firm further into debt. Analysts are now worried that AMD could run out of cash by the forth quarter of this year if it doesn't borrow more money, with an estimated figure of just $1.1 billion in the bank. Meanwhile, AMD's closest rival Intel is in it's strongest market position since 2005, with profits of $1.6 billion in the first quarter of 2007. AMD will be banking on the new Barcelona core and the R600 series of graphics cards to help it back onto its feet.
Source: DailyTech

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94 Comments on AMD’s debt piling up

#76
Ashen
sorry dan, was making that post when you posted, unlike my forums TPU dosnt notify you when new posts where made as you where posting b4 it acctualy submits them(nice feture im sure you would agree)
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#77
Casheti
LOL. Remember AlecStar?? Tiggers 4GHz Intel SMASHED Alec's AMD which was way higher than what you state would beat it. So...suck it.

I spammed you for fun, I know it ain't gonna achieve anything...

You're so sad you have to bring what I do in private to the public...

Pretty pathetic imo lol..
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#78
bruins004
D00715 posts and your already insulting people? i wouldnt recommend that...
Ashen has actually been a user for a while I believe (his old user name was Ashenguard).

Anyways, AMD needs to spend more money to make it.
However, the delays are costing them a good deal.
But if you look at it they have lowered prices quite a bit, so for the average spender an AMD system is def. cheaper and you can get a better bang for the buck.
Unfort., Intel sees this and is countering.

But nothing can beat a dual core for under $60 :)

PS --> Childish fights like this really piss me off. This is a forum and they are both completely off topic. I think they both deserve at least 1 infraction for this.
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#79
Ashen
ah , true GJSN i got pulled into a "slap the casheti" situation again, but its so easy, and i never spam people on msn/yahoo/aim/jabber/gtalk/exct over forums posts, let alone try and flood them to cause problems(he acctualy thought my system would have problems with a little msn spaming....rofl)

sorry all, i shoudnt have kept the "slap the casheti" posts going.......
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#80
Casheti
bruins004Ashen has actually been a user for a while I believe (his old user name was Ashenguard).

Anyways, AMD needs to spend more money to make it.
However, the delays are costing them a good deal.
But if you look at it they have lowered prices quite a bit, so for the average spender an AMD system is def. cheaper and you can get a better bang for the buck.
Unfort., Intel sees this and is countering.

But nothing can beat a dual core for under $60 :)

PS --> Childish fights like this really piss me off. This is a forum and they are both completely off topic. I think they both deserve at least 1 infraction for this.
Look up top and see who started it...not me LOL.
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#81
Casheti
LMFAO!!! Where does it say I thought your system would have problems???

EXACTLY, IT DOESN'T. LOL, YOU HAVE TO MAKE STUFF UP TO TRY AND MAKE ME SOUND BAD...

Even more sad rofl..

A childish argument started by an adult...I simply stated my opinion and you couldn't take it could ya?

Awww, poor gayboy.
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#82
theonetruewill
Guys stop arguing, there's no point. Just leave it or you'll both going to get temp banned by the mods, its not worth it. Each of you are entitled to your own opinions.
Especially as Ashen has stopped.
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#83
Casheti
I'm hardly worked up am I?

This is a forum, where only words are posted.

My words can sound fun and jumpy or angry and mean etc...

It's how I choose to post that makes the difference. In this case I choose to post in a mean way. I'm not worked up at all :D

I don't mind getting temp banned.

Personally I think we've wasted too much space on tthis thread and all flame posts should be deleted.
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#84
bruins004
CashetiLook up top and see who started it...not me LOL.
I see who started it, but you are in the wrong as well.
This hasn't been the first time I have seen you in a fight like this as well (as I have been around here for a long time).

Most of your posts are SPAM in here and you are just fighting and fighting like a little kid.
This is not the place to do it.
This is about AMDs Debt piling up, not about you.
The world does not revolve around you.

Anyways, AMD needs to generate some revenue now with the ATI cards coming out.
It has to be priced just right so it can compete with Nvidias.
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#85
Urlyin
I still do pencil mods
CashetiI'm hardly worked up am I?

This is a forum, where only words are posted.

My words can sound fun and jumpy or angry and mean etc...

It's how I choose to post that makes the difference. In this case I choose to post in a mean way. I'm not worked up at all :D

I don't mind getting temp banned.

Personally I think we've wasted too much space on tthis thread and all flame posts should be deleted.
Take a few days then.. since you don't mind ... Banjo had asked you guys to stop :mad:
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#86
theonetruewill
bruins004I see who started it, but you are in the wrong as well.
This hasn't been the first time I have seen you in a fight like this as well (as I have been around here for a long time).

Most of your posts are SPAM in here and you are just fighting and fighting like a little kid.
This is not the place to do it.
This is about AMDs Debt piling up, not about you.
The world does not revolve around you.

Anyways, AMD needs to generate some revenue now with the ATI cards coming out.
It has to be priced just right so it can compete with Nvidias.
OK now back on topic,
Cash don't respond to the above badly, just leave it and lets get back on topic.

I'm a bit unclear on this but will AMD's soon-to-come chips have an AM2 variant?
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#87
Ashen
cash, why dont you stop, and your worked up, thats pretty clear from the spaming of my msn acct you did, you really got no life if you can sit there and do file sends over and over 800+times ROFL

maby go outside for a walk, cool off :)
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#88
Ashen
hey, i stoped, i didnt see dans post till i had made the one under it, so i stoped, i do like how my posts get reported by "so many people" yet his dont(unlike him i didnt report the posts with my acct or have others report it, or use a 2nd/3rd/4th acct to report somebodys posts :P )

im done, i said what i needed to say, :)
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#89
Ashen
IceMasterCJFreshI think Ashen is in the wrong here, why ain't he banned too?
because ashen stoped insults and attacks and didnt ask to be banned, ashen stoped b4 it got to that point.
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#90
bruins004
theonetruewillOK now back on topic,
Cash don't respond to the above badly, just leave it and lets get back on topic.

I'm a bit unclear on this but will AMD's soon-to-come chips have an AM2 variant?
Their Phenom chips (thats what they are called now) will be AM2.
The next chipset will be AM3 and will use DDR3 RAM.
So that wont be for a while.
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#91
trt740
Whats amazing is how well a 4 years old design AMD 64 holds up when you compare it to a just designed Core 2 Duo . That a testiment to the quality and longevity of AMDs products. This is no where near like how badly the 64 killed the Pent4. The 64 can compete very well with a Core 2 Duo. Where a Pent 4 could not hold the 64s jock.
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#92
Ashen
am2, am2+ and am3 are ment to be useable in am2 boards from what amd has stated (over and over) am3 wont come for a good while yet, am2+ only comes into excistance because the server side needs the new fetures like new faster hyper transport(def not needed for desktop systems) and the dual/multi voltege planes for each core, again, not needed, could be good for servers or if you want to try and lower ur power use when not all cores are being used fully, but for most desktop users its useless.

i want a kuma or rana core, hell i would settle for a spica core if i could get ahold of one :)
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#93
theonetruewill
trt740Whats amazing is how well a 4 years old design AMD 64 holds up when you compare it to a just designed Core 2 Duo . That a testiment to the quality and longevity of AMDs products. this is no where near like how badly The 64 killed the Pent4. The 64 can compete very well with a Core 2 Duo. Where a Pent 4 could not hold the 64s jock.
True. However I went AMD now because it was simply so much cheaper for me. About 2/3rds of the price, maybe less. And I reckon I probably get more from it than my mates E6300 stock, now that its at 2.79.
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#94
Urlyin
I still do pencil mods
IceMasterCJFreshI think Ashen is in the wrong here, why ain't he banned too?
He was sent a warning which Casheti would have gotten .. but to end it fast he said he did't mind so .. poof ...

back on topic now please :toast:
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