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Wednesday, July 4 2007
It seems that Creative Labs is now selling ALchemy Audigy Edition for $9.99 (USD). As you may know the ALchemy project enables DirectSound3D audio to be processed by your Sound Blaster Audigy and deliver EAX effects in Microsoft Windows Vista. Without Creative ALchemy, most DirectSound games running in Vista will be reduced to stereo output without any EAX effects. This project is available freely for Creative X-Fi owners. For unknown reasons Creative Labs has decided to sell this wrapper to Audigy owners. Here's the link where you have to buy the software in order to use EAX effects in Vista with your "old" Creative Audigy Series/Audigy 2/Audigy 2 ZS/Audigy 2 ZS notebook or Audigy 4 sound blaster.



Source: NGOHQ
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by parentof1strive (July 4th - 11:20 PM) - Reply
Yeah babeeeeeeeeyy!!:D
by von kain (July 4th - 11:26 PM) - Reply
another step to the day that we are gonna pay for newer drivers....


it's is on the back of theyr heads..............................

with a post it.........
by DaMulta (July 4th - 11:27 PM) - Reply
This is old news...
by Ripper3 (July 4th - 11:32 PM) - Reply
This... is... retarded...
Oh well, not like people have to pay for the basic drivers but still stupid.
I guess you could reason that you don't necesarilly need to buy this. Not like it adds anything crucial anyhow.
by insider (July 4th - 11:34 PM) - Reply
Pay for drivers?

Torrent...
by InitialG (July 4th - 11:54 PM) - Reply
there is a cracked version available on the creative forums :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Mod:The fact that Creative allows cracked stuff on their forums doesn't mean we do.
by Ripper3 (July 5th - 12:01 AM) - Reply
HAH! Hasn't been deleted yet either, so either it's showing how bad Creative's forum admins are, or else that they themselves think Creative is being stupid.
by wazzledoozle (July 5th - 12:11 AM) - Reply
Now they just need to fix the actual drivers.... my Audigy 2 is the reason I dont use vista. It sounds like shit!
by insider (July 5th - 12:13 AM) - Reply
LOL don't even need to use torrent
by Ripper3 (July 5th - 12:23 AM) - Reply
They're just trying to make you upgrade to an X-Fi I guess.
"Yes, we'll FORCE them, to get back the sound quality. Our plan will work! Wait a minute... sales are going down... hhmmmm"
by OnBoard (July 5th - 1:31 AM) - Reply
I hope no-one will buy this, as it's something that you should get for free. Now if you would get the cheapest Audigy along with that 10$, then it would be great. If no-one buys this or gets it somewhere else they don't get any idea to make more this sort of stuff. Like others said, this isn't far off from paying drivers.

Soon we'll have micro$oft selling Vista without DX10 and you have to buy it too to be able to game. Oh and it comes also without any network support, so you have to buy that too to get online play or basic internet..
by WarEagleAU (July 5th - 3:03 AM) - Reply
Im sorry this is just retarded though. Why do audigy owners pay why xfi folks are free.
by tigger (July 5th - 3:12 AM) - Reply
i think its coz alchemy was a kinda fix for xfi/vista,they musta realized they can charge audigy users for it.
by GLD (July 5th - 4:04 AM) - Reply
Them SOB's! I spent good money on my retail/vanilla Audigy 2ZS, and they want to make me spend more money on a driver others can have for free? That's a heap of pooh, just as their Vista drivers have been. That's bad business practice imo. :confused:
by Dippyskoodlez (July 5th - 4:47 AM) - Reply
by: WarEagleAU;382817
Im sorry this is just retarded though. Why do audigy owners pay why xfi folks are free.


Bend over, suckers.

This is why I've refrained from buying creative products.

Drivers suck, and now they want you to pay for their crappy drivers.
by russianboy (July 5th - 5:10 AM) - Reply
But they make some damn good earbuds!

Yar, pirates sez drivers for all yar!
by FatForester (July 5th - 5:36 AM) - Reply
boo yah! my x-fi kicks more ass every day!
by Mussels (July 5th - 9:11 AM) - Reply
i'm all for pirating drivers... they sell these cards on shelves still (my audigy 4) and wont support shit for free - even if it was EAX 2.0 support for all audigys, that'd be nice for free
by Mad-Matt (July 5th - 11:24 AM) - Reply
you could always put winXP back and youll have a 100% supported card as intended ;)

you made the choice to support microsoft with vista and its butchered audio, so you have to take the shit that goes with it like paying for extended support of older hardware. Just because you support vista, doesnt mean creative has too ;)
by Wile E (July 5th - 11:27 AM) - Reply
by: wazzledoozle;382675
Now they just need to fix the actual drivers.... my Audigy 2 is the reason I dont use vista. It sounds like shit!

Really? Mine sounds the same in Vista, even thru my monitors.
by ex_reven (July 5th - 11:51 AM) - Reply
Buying drivers?
Ive never heard of anything that tight assed...
They should (probably) be shot.
by von kain (July 5th - 12:30 PM) - Reply
just to know on something you still pay for some updates,and if you really read the eula on enything you buy you should know that they aren't fully commitend to support us..their customers..



p.s. usally we pay for drivers when we buy hardware they are the software....
by ex_reven (July 5th - 12:38 PM) - Reply
by: von kain;383096

p.s. usally we pay for drivers when we buy hardware they are the software....
Yeah but its a package thing. You wouldnt buy something that you expect to work out of the box only to be told "if you want to keep your computer up to date (new OS) you need to pay us more."

They should feel an obligation to support the product in the interest of their customers without payment. It might not be necessary for them to do so, as it is not legally required of them, but its not a very "customer friendly" action.
by mixa (July 5th - 12:44 PM) - Reply
And then they ask why there`s so much software piracy ....lol
by jurrasstoil (July 5th - 2:26 PM) - Reply
They've really done it? xD

first time i heard, that they want money for ALchemy, I thought it was a bad joke. Now that they are actually SELLING it für 10 bucks I can't stop laughing - that's just ridiculous.
That's why i'm still on XP with my Audigy 4.

When Vista gets interessting for me, they maybe offer it for free or i have to "find a different way" ( ;) )
by russianboy (July 5th - 3:09 PM) - Reply
To be honest M$ could have easily released an update that allows EAX and whatnot, I winder if creative payed them off...:rolleyes:.

Yet another Vista problem, I just don't know, this software still should be in the beta stage, so many problems.

I didn't even pay for it and I still hate it, I feel bad for the legit owners.
by Wayward (July 6th - 12:25 PM) - Reply
I don't use Vista, nor will I ever use Vista, but this is just ridiculous. I paid good money for my Audigy2ZS a few years back, and it should be supported for a long time to come. Despite the fact this does not affect me, I see this as a dangerous precedent.

That will be the last Creative card I buy.
by russianboy (July 6th - 4:28 PM) - Reply
Future of warez:

appz, gamez, muzicz, ebookz, driverz.
by Dippyskoodlez (July 6th - 5:17 PM) - Reply
by: russianboy;383175
To be honest M$ could have easily released an update that allows EAX and whatnot, I winder if creative payed them off...:rolleyes:.



Or not.

Vista introduced a new audio driver model which is why there are so many driver issues. Its now very similar to OS X's CoreAudio in that the OS handles a lot more of the work differently.

Creative's EAX I think used features/work arounds of the old windows model, which was fixed/changed in Vista so they have to make a new solution from scratch.
by russianboy (July 6th - 7:20 PM) - Reply
But can't m$ have created a compability layer or something like that?
by Dippyskoodlez (July 6th - 9:30 PM) - Reply
by: russianboy;384412
But can't m$ have created a compability layer or something like that?
Not worth the work. ;)

If you do that, every vendor would just sit back and say "use the compatability", instead of seeing improvements from the audio subsystem rewrite. :laugh:
by russianboy (July 6th - 9:55 PM) - Reply
turds.

don't even care about the customers only about the $$$.
by Wile E (July 7th - 1:43 AM) - Reply
by: Wayward;384184
I don't use Vista, nor will I ever use Vista, but this is just ridiculous. I paid good money for my Audigy2ZS a few years back, and it should be supported for a long time to come. Despite the fact this does not affect me, I see this as a dangerous precedent.

That will be the last Creative card I buy.
I think you saying you'll never use Vista is a little early. It would be like saying I'll never use XP, when it first came out. Keep your mind open my friend, Vista's getting better.
by Dippyskoodlez (July 7th - 4:27 AM) - Reply
by: Wile E;384888
I think you saying you'll never use Vista is a little early. It would be like saying I'll never use XP, when it first came out. Keep your mind open my friend, Vista's getting better.
Difference is XP was a massive bugfix/usability upgrade in comparison to the popular os of the time- 98.

Vista brings no functional improvements that an end user would /desire/.

All Vista brings are technical changes that really aren't all that useful for an end user.

XP brought:
Stability
Networking
Networked printing, sharing
USB support
Media support

All most users will see about vista is...
Pretty.
Bloaty.
Pretty.
Bloaty.
Likes to question ones actions.
Incompatabilitys.


Microsoft needs to simplify their menu'ing and structures... Now its turning into re-learn how to use a computer, which is unacceptable for the general public. PERIOD.
by Wile E (July 7th - 6:04 AM) - Reply
by: Dippyskoodlez;385077
Difference is XP was a massive bugfix/usability upgrade in comparison to the popular os of the time- 98.

Vista brings no functional improvements that an end user would /desire/.

All Vista brings are technical changes that really aren't all that useful for an end user.

XP brought:
Stability
Networking
Networked printing, sharing
USB support
Media support

All most users will see about vista is...
Pretty.
Bloaty.
Pretty.
Bloaty.
Likes to question ones actions.
Incompatabilitys.


Microsoft needs to simplify their menu'ing and structures... Now its turning into re-learn how to use a computer, which is unacceptable for the general public. PERIOD.
XP didn't bring stability out of the gate, either. It's start was just like Vista's is now. Compared to 98 it was bloated, unstable, and had compatibility issues. But it was prettier. Things didn't really get better until SP1. Seems to me everything is very alike.

Vista also brings better multi-core support to the table, better security (and no, I don't mean UAC), a much better network stack, DX10, much better search functionality, and generally better usage of the mass amounts of resources it consumes. It by no means is any worse off than when XP first released.
by Dippyskoodlez (July 7th - 12:05 PM) - Reply
by: Wile E;385168
XP didn't bring stability out of the gate, either. It's start was just like Vista's is now. Compared to 98 it was bloated, unstable, and had compatibility issues. But it was prettier. Things didn't really get better until SP1. Seems to me everything is very alike.

Vista also brings better multi-core support to the table, better security (and no, I don't mean UAC), a much better network stack, DX10, much better search functionality, and generally better usage of the mass amounts of resources it consumes. It by no means is any worse off than when XP first released.


The difference is we now have a stable XP base. 98 was just unable to cope with the addition of USB, networking and printing as a whole.

We now have an OS that has all of these functions.. so the upgrade is going to be a hassle rather than a convenience. This driver example is just another of the problems a user will face. Wheres the real motivation to upgrade? Forcing direct X down a users throat is not the way.
by wazzledoozle (July 7th - 1:06 PM) - Reply
Sigh. I think you forgot what this news post was originally. Creative Alchemy.

From now on I'm taking a zero-tolerance stance against flaming in the news section, people.
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