Thursday, September 13th 2007

DVD Forum Approves Triple-Layer HD-DVD, Works on New DVD Format

Back in January, Toshiba brought their 51GB triple-layer HD-DVD to the DVD forum. Six months later, the DVD forum has officially green-lighted the new disk. The new disk should play fine on most HD-DVD players, and even if it doesn't, the majority of people that bought an HD-DVD player probably wouldn't mind an upgrade anyways. There is no word as to when production will start, or when we'll start seeing this disk. The DVD forum is also working on a new format. By placing a double-layer HD DVD disk on the back of a standard DVD, they hope to create a future proof DVD disk.

Source: Reg Hardware
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19 Comments on DVD Forum Approves Triple-Layer HD-DVD, Works on New DVD Format

#1
Dos101
by: zekrahminator
Back in January, Toshiba brought their 51GB triple-layer HD-DVD to the DVD forum. Six months later, the DVD forum has officially green-lighted the new disk. The new disk should play fine on most HD-DVD players, and even if it doesn't, the majority of people that bought an HD-DVD player probably wouldn't mind an upgrade anyways. There is no word as to when production will start, or when we'll start seeing this disk. The DVD forum is also working on a new format. By placing a double-layer HD DVD disk on the back of a standard DVD, they hope to create a future proof DVD disk.
lol, most of us can't even affoard to buy a player in the first place. :laugh::roll:
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#2
jocksteeluk
i certainly hope hd dvd wins, this triple layer disk is a prime example why only open formats should be adopted as worldwide standards.
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#3
LiNKiN
Staff
I really don't care who or what format wins the "war", I am just ready for one High-Def format that I can rely on to get the movies that I want. (ie, no Transformers on Blue-Ray) :rolleyes:
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#4
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Here here LiNKiN. Personally its three layers to get the same size capacity as a dual layer Bluray disc, or there abouts. I think there is a need for both formats personally, but I was hoping for a union of the two. No such luck.

Honestly, unless they bundle a dvd player game, I dont think a movie could use all that space, even with coding in hd 1080p or 1600p or whatever with dolby HD 5.1 sound.
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#6
effmaster
by: Helvetica
51GB COOL like BluRay
And also useless like Blu-Ray:slap:

noone uses that much disc space for movies yet hardly if at all

I love HD-DVD but i dont quite undrstand what the point of it is of having a 51 GB disc:confused::confused:
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#7
lemonadesoda
By placing a double-layer HD DVD disk on the back of a standard DVD
*Nice* Buy a "new style" DVD disk and get the film in BOTH DVD and HD-DVD. Perfect. Watch on your laptop (DVD drive) or watch on your bigscreen (HDDVD player).

Or buy DVD now to watch HD-DVD next year when players are cheaper.

SMART MOVE
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#8
effmaster
by: lemonadesoda
*Nice* Buy a "new style" DVD disk and get the film in BOTH DVD and HD-DVD. Perfect. Watch on your laptop (DVD drive) or watch on your bigscreen (HDDVD player).

Or buy DVD now to watch HD-DVD next year when players are cheaper.

SMART MOVE
HD-DVD's can already do this though:wtf::wtf::wtf:

Whereas Blu-Ray can't
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#9
lemonadesoda
by: effmaster
HD-DVD's can already do this though:wtf::wtf::wtf:

Whereas Blu-Ray can't
Really? You can play a HD-DVD disk on a regular DVD player? (Regular DVD quality)
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#10
effmaster
by: lemonadesoda
Really? You can play a HD-DVD disk on a regular DVD player? (Regular DVD quality)
with certain HD-DVD movies you can. (like the movie 300 for example it will say somewhere on ther HD-DVD & DVD combo format on there)

While its still expensive compared to the normal DVD its worth it should your HD-DVD format go down the drain which i don't beleive it will and for my case to show support for HD-DVD even though I don't have an HD-DVD player AS OF YET:roll::roll::roll:

The reason they can do this lemonadesoda is because DVD and HD-DVD technologies are so similar whereas with Blu-Ray, DVD factories and studios had to overgo a major overhaul in all kinds of costs for the Blu-Ray format discs to be produced. I hope that clears up some stuff for you
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#11
OnBoard
by: effmaster
And also useless like Blu-Ray:slap:

noone uses that much disc space for movies yet hardly if at all

I love HD-DVD but i dont quite undrstand what the point of it is of having a 51 GB disc:confused::confused:
Well I can see one good use, SERIES! It's usually 3 DVDs for one season and now it could fit on one disc. Take for example Friends: Complete Series 1-10 Box Set. It's 30 DVDs, I'd rather have just 10 or less, depending if they put more than one season on each disc.

Also all trilogies could be sold on just one HD-DVD and so on. Oh and they'd have to be on DVD quality of course, which I wouldn't mind at all.
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#12
ex_reven
ALSO, imagine chucking all of your DVD's onto one disk and making your own custom menu to search/scroll through your list of movies?

You could be the ULTIMATE lazy ass.
Youd never have to get up and change the dvd again :p!
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#13
Wile E
Power User
by: ex_reven
ALSO, imagine chucking all of your DVD's onto one disk and making your own custom menu to search/scroll through your list of movies?

You could be the ULTIMATE lazy ass.
Youd never have to get up and change the dvd again :p!
I already don't, media server and PS3, FTW!!!! lol
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#14
ex_reven
by: Wile E
I already don't, media server and PS3, FTW!!!! lol
I have none of those lol :(
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#15
lemonadesoda
by: effmaster
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Actually, the "combo" format is a DOUBLE SIDED disk. One side is DVD, the other side is HD-DVD.

Important point: A regular HD-DVD disk will NOT play in a regular DVD player.

by: zak
The DVD forum is also working on a new format. By placing a double-layer HD DVD disk on the back of a standard DVD, they hope to create a future proof DVD disk
As effmaster pointed out, "combo" HD-DVDs have been around for a while. No news.
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#16

I still maintain there should be an interim DVD9 720p format using AAC 5.1......
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#17
HellasVagabond
True, that wouldnt be hard since HD-DVD even in 1080p roughly uses 10GB just for the movie but reaches 20+GB for the extras which to me are useless.
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#18
Wile E
Power User
by: HellasVagabond
True, that wouldnt be hard since HD-DVD even in 1080p roughly uses 10GB just for the movie but reaches 20+GB for the extras which to me are useless.
Yeah, me too. And to take it even further, with a good and proper H.264 re-encode, you can cut that space even further. You can get a 720p movie on a single layer using H.264 and AC3. 1080p still needs a DVD-9 tho, as you get artifacting trying to squeeze it down to 4.7GB.

The amazing thing is, most people can't tell the difference in quality between the re-encode and the original. It takes a trained eye to spot the differences, and even then, they're usually only noticeable on dark backgrounds.
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#19
effmaster
by: lemonadesoda
Actually, the "combo" format is a DOUBLE SIDED disk. One side is DVD, the other side is HD-DVD.
Thanks i already knew that though, i just figured that that went with out saying:rolleyes::rolleyes:


Aso guys while I and everyone else thinks that a double or triple layer DVD 9 disc would do just fine (beleive me I would really rather have preffered this) It's just that both sides (HD-DVD, and Blu-Ray) wanted new formats to help combat piracy which i think is rather useless because by the time prices come down to an AFFORDABLE LEVEL we will probably be right back where we are currently at with DVD piracy. See the dilemma and reason why I think HD-DVD is ftw
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