Monday, October 1st 2007

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition Surprisingly Overclockable

When AMD first released the 5000+ version of the Black Edition series of processors, it seemed pretty unimpressive. However, the Black Edition processors are a lot like the old FX processors: they come with an unlocked multiplier, and are hand-picked for overclocking. And so, while the Black Edition processors may not be the best at stock clocks, they certainly are good at overclocking. Just as an example, a Chinese overclocker was able to push his 5000+ Black Edition to a respectable 3.5GHz on stock cooling.

Source: Nordic Hardware
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26 Comments on AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition Surprisingly Overclockable

#1
mandelore
picked out for overclocking, and delivers. Very nicely done AMD.

thats one hellova processor on stock cooling :)
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#2
rhythmeister
Mmm, of course this wee beast comes out AFTER I get the fx-62 and appears to be an even better chip. Here's me getting kicked in the nuts: :nutkick:
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#3
mandelore
wonder if any1 could make this black edition a 4ghz edition?? :)
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#4
nflesher87
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I'm assuming they're implying he used an AM2 stock HSF from retail cpus as to my understanding none of the Black Edition processors come with a HSF...seems funny to me
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#5
a111087
3.5GHz on stock cooling?! WOW! impressive, wonder what would be max oc on Ultra 120
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#6
ChaoticBlankness
by: nflesher87
I'm assuming they're implying he used an AM2 stock HSF from retail cpus as to my understanding none of the Black Edition processors come with a HSF...seems funny to me
It is possible that he used the stock cooler to the from the regular 5000+.
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#8
nflesher87
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by: theonetruewill
3.5Ghz Pfft, thats nothing compared to mine :p
:laugh:
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#9
theonetruewill
I love that screenie- goodness knows why it was so weird- it just started going crazy in CPU-Z so I kept pressing prtscrn until I got the highest one recorded!:D
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#10
suraswami
by: theonetruewill
3.5Ghz Pfft, thats nothing compared to mine :p
Holly cow!! On Air cooling? That too on a Gigabyte board?
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#11
theonetruewill
by: suraswami
Holly cow!! On Air cooling? That too on a Gigabyte board?
;) read above
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#12
suraswami
so its a trick. You almost gave me a heart attack. I thought good lord this thing at 5+ghz will kick C2D on the balls.
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#13
nflesher87
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by: suraswami
so its a trick. You almost gave me a heart attack. I thought good lord this thing at 5+ghz will kick C2D on the balls.
lol he would've made world news if that picture had honestly read his proc speed, in fact, you should've tried to validate it as well as take the pic haha just think if it had validated? you'd be famous and could sell that thing for a ton of money :D
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#14
theonetruewill
by: nflesher87
lol he would've made world news if that picture had honestly read his proc speed, in fact, you should've tried to validate it as well as take the pic haha just think if it had validated? you'd be famous and could sell that thing for a ton of money :D
I was sooooooooooo tempted!
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#15
InfDamarvel
Thats cool, to bad you cant see what voltage he has it at =/.
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#16
panchoman
Sold my stars!
by: mandelore
wonder if any1 could make this black edition a 4ghz edition?? :)
should be a piece of cake considering he got 3.5 on air with only 220 fsb, just hook some water up and you're good to go :toast:
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#17
TheGuruStud
by: panchoman
should be a piece of cake considering he got 3.5 on air with only 220 fsb, just hook some water up and you're good to go :toast:
Even on liquid nitro I think you'd be lucky to get 4 ghz. I think the records are like 3.7. Yes, that was 90nm, but it's really not as a great limit of the process (anymore) as it is the architecture. Even that poor mem controller has to clock to that. Although she shines when clocked high, the latencies are incredible.
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#18
a111087
yep, wonder if the architectural limit will stop people before 4ghz
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#19
yogurt_21
shouldn't be an architectural limit, as the fx-60 hit well north of 4GHZ on good phase much less liquid nitro. I'd say that 4GHZ is porbably possible and would have been hit on the 6000 if all the major guys didn't go intel before the 6000 was released. on this chip, maybe, but I'd bet the 6400 would probabaly hit somewhere north of 4GHZ.
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#20
mandelore
if this chip had been out a while ago i may have made the jump to AM2 b4 upgrading to a 939 opty lol..

makes me wonder tho.. how this would compare to say a dual core Phenom??

because hitting upwards on 3.5Ghz on a dual core easily says alot, but the Phenom has been reported to be having issues with higher clock speeds (me hopes not tho)

Newer architecture possibly lower speed, older architecture higher speed... I know core frequency isnt the be all and end all, but it certainly helps.

But, one could so easily comment that if AMD has done this via a respin of a current processor chip, what they could acheive with similar techniques on a brand new architecture. Quite exciting actually :)
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#21
Wile E
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by: yogurt_21
shouldn't be an architectural limit, as the fx-60 hit well north of 4GHZ on good phase much less liquid nitro. I'd say that 4GHZ is porbably possible and would have been hit on the 6000 if all the major guys didn't go intel before the 6000 was released. on this chip, maybe, but I'd bet the 6400 would probabaly hit somewhere north of 4GHZ.
You're right, pop over to hwbot. There's at least one 4GHz 6000+. Haven't checked in a while, so there might be more now.


EDIT: 2 6000+ over 4GHZ, and 3 6400+. The top 6400+ made it to 4.2GHz on TEC.
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#22
rodneyhchef
by: mandelore
if this chip had been out a while ago i may have made the jump to AM2 b4 upgrading to a 939 opty lol..

makes me wonder tho.. how this would compare to say a dual core Phenom??

because hitting upwards on 3.5Ghz on a dual core easily says alot, but the Phenom has been reported to be having issues with higher clock speeds (me hopes not tho)

Newer architecture possibly lower speed, older architecture higher speed... I know core frequency isnt the be all and end all, but it certainly helps.
They had the same issues with this type of core as well (65nm Athlon x2 (brisbane?)) Voltage leakeage is one of the reasons they haven't been clocked as high as the 90nm Athlon X2s. Obviously there are some good ones though! :D
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#23
mandelore
4.2Ghz on a tec, damn, on my setup id reach that 4ghz!

(cries with dispair at his opty 185)
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#24
yogurt_21
by: mandelore
4.2Ghz on a tec, damn, on my setup id reach that 4ghz!

(cries with dispair at his opty 185)
I know, i'm on phase here. lol
*searches his pockets for 280$ and comes out with lint*

damn.
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#25
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
great clock :eek: think what he could do on TEC or phase :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D knock the damn C2D off there damn thrown someone
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