Oh sweet. I never got into this game because IC ouldnt see paying 40 bucks for the game and then the monthly fee. But with the chest, you get the expansion and its the same price. I could definitely swing that.

there are free servers, but they are horrible :banghead:

If you need a game guide for this, then you're probably the kind of person who uses game guides for things like Minesweeper.

|Oh sweet. I never got into this game because IC ouldnt see paying 40 bucks for the game and then the monthly fee. But with the chest, you get the expansion and its the same price. I could definitely swing that.|

I didn't understand that.

So you're getting an expansion worth twenty bucks for free, and that somehow alleviates the original issue?


I urge you not to buy it though :) Outdated, awful game.

mdm-adphIf you need a game guide for this, then you're probably the kind of person who uses game guides for things like Minesweeper.

Needing any game guide is pretty pathetic. Nonetheless, W0W is the largest game out there with the largest number of dungeons etc. I doubt there are many W0W players who haven't looked up various instance bossloot maps. Spending $20 for a guide is pretty sad though.

What I miss are games like the early Zelda NES titles, where you might actually need one to find all the crazy cryptic hidden shit in the game

newconroerSo you're getting an expansion worth twenty bucks for free, and that somehow alleviates the original issue?

I urge you not to buy it though :) Outdated, awful game.

Well, orig game + expansion + 2 guides sounds like ~$100 to me. If one was interested, it is a solid deal.

I'm curious though - what games out there aren't outdated and awful? I really need to find something decent to play. HL2.ep2 is the only thing I can think of that's recent and not...the suck.

WoW the largest game? You mean it's big because of it's customer base or?

Because when it comes to in game/world land mass, it's far from the largest, very far.

|Well, orig game + expansion + 2 guides sounds like ~$100 to me. If one was interested, it is a solid deal.|

Yes, in a monetary value approach it's not bad, but doesn't take away from the game being the same game :)
I just thought it was funny that the original+the 'evil' subscription would turn him away, but then getting a free expansion would suddenly make the difference.


Depends on what you like to play?

FPS:
Crysis (demo) Well, it's Crysis!
COD4 (demo) Lots of action, nice that it's modern warfare, I like WW/WWII theme but it's so old now.
Hellgate London (FPS/RPG demo) Interesting..

MMO:
LOTRO (best since original EverQuest)(Just got DX10 support)


Since that's the only two types of games discussed here so far, that's all I commented on, hope you don't mind.

newconroerWoW the largest game? You mean it's big because of it's customer base or?

Because when it comes to in game/world land mass, it's far from the largest, very far.

|Well, orig game + expansion + 2 guides sounds like ~$100 to me. If one was interested, it is a solid deal.|

Yes, in a monetary value approach it's not bad, but doesn't take away from the game being the same game :)
I just thought it was funny that the original+the 'evil' subscription would turn him away, but then getting a free expansion would suddenly make the difference.


Depends on what you like to play?

FPS:
Crysis (demo) Well, it's Crysis!
COD4 (demo) Lots of action, nice that it's modern warfare, I like WW/WWII theme but it's so old now.
Hellgate London (FPS/RPG demo) Interesting..

MMO:
LOTRO (best since original EverQuest)(Just got DX10 support)


Since that's the only two types of games discussed here so far, that's all I commented on, hope you don't mind.

Obviously WoW doesn't have the most content for an MMO quite yet, but WoW does have the biggest player base.

Heh, thread hijack in progress!

I did mean the physical (virtual?) geography of W0W being large enough that maps make sense in a guide format.

As far as other games, W0W is the king of the MMO, and rightfully so. In all aspects that MMOs entail, it is the best in many aspects, one being the huge playerbase. I've tested and played most of the MMOs since EQ (which I HATED) and none has kept me as involved as W0W did. I quit W0W before the exp. w/ 2 60s and sold my account.

One game that I loved was EVE online. If it wasn't so darn...boring to PLAY - the potential there was Awesome, it was unruly and chaotic, and they have a small but thriving playerbase.

Hellgate beta was Diablo3D (outdated anyone?) and it actually reminded me a lot of a dumbed-down version of Anarchy Online (which was a great MMO when it first started but soon became too EQ-like)

Crysis demo so far is...FarCry 2.0. The gfx are nice but...meh, same gameplay.

I'd LOVE to hear more about LOTRO, here or in PM if you're playing that. I've read up on it in bits and pieces but I would like to hear about it from a gamer.