If this ad is current a lot of you missed what they did here. (were is that "I see what you did there" pic). If you notice, they made no mention to ATI's 3870 and focus on a EOL 2900.
It's the absence of not recognizing the 3870 which is the most telling.

The problem is that I have had so many issues with Nvidia drivers

Same here. NVIDIA has terrible drivers. Each version fixes something but it breaks something else. (usually compatibility with an older title) Also, every new version of NVIDIA’s drivers seems to reduce overall performance for the sake of compatibility with latest titles. I've owned 6 NVIDIA cards from 2002-2006, and I must admit I was missing out on some great hardware as far as ATI is concerned. I got my first ATI card last year, I was so impressed that I got two more for my other machines, replacing NVIDIA ones in the process. I was always told by various people that ATI drivers were terrible compared to NVIDIA’s. So I figured, if NVIDIA’s drivers were terrible, as I knew from my experience, ATI's drivers would cause my system to instantly combust. That was not true, obviously. Also, I must admit, ATI cards have better image quality.

It's the absence of not recognizing the 3870 which is the most telling.

Yup, that it is. You can easily see this was not aimed at the enthusiast community, since anyone who knows anything can see this demonstration for what it is.

sorry, I get the feeling this is more targeted at those people who absolutely have to have the most newest-uber-max-shite. As in, those who've already got the 30" HD LCDs and the bad-ass pornjection screens.

These people are buying the largest monitors and TVs that they can because they want that "home theater" experience for watching mostly movies - not games. We all know the higher the resolution thats being displayed, the slower your game is going to run - so we really don't care. But if you want to watch "Transformers" on Blu-Ray, you don't want to have a CRT-style black border around the displayed image, right?

One thing they seem to forget to mention is image quality playing back video, a scenario where my old x1800 pwns my 8800

AddSubI was always told by various people that ATI drivers were terrible compared to NVIDIA’s. So I figured, if NVIDIA’s drivers were terrible, as I knew from my experience, ATI's drivers would cause my system to instantly combust. That was not true, obviously. Also, I must admit, ATI cards have better image quality.

I've been saying that for years to people, ATi drivers are FAR better than nVidias. Sure ATi have their problems, what driver doesnt, but for compatibility, reliability and image quality, ATi beat the living shit out of nVidia drivers. Its also why I won't buy nVidia stuff now, their drivers are piss poor. I had so many BSODs with my last nVidia card (6800GT) I was jumping for joy when my 1950Pro arrived.

Now as for this debacle.. *sniff sniff* LAWSUIT! As petty as it may seem at first glance, ATi have a legitimate reason to go for one, nVidia have deliberately tried to deface ATi, and to an extent, is false advertising of ATi hardware capabilities.

does nvidia really feel that self conscience? the 8800 series is great. the 8800gt is a superb product for the money. they dont need to try and trick people into buying this product. my plan was to eventually buy an 8800gt, but now im going to wait for the new ati 3000 series.

Easy Rhinodoes nvidia really feel that self conscience? the 8800 series is great. the 8800gt is a superb product for the money. they dont need to try and trick people into buying this product. my plan was to eventually buy an 8800gt, but now im going to wait for the new ati 3000 series.

they are out.

Now as for this debacle.. *sniff sniff* LAWSUIT! As petty as it may seem at first glance, ATi have a legitimate reason to go for one, nVidia have deliberately tried to deface ATi, and to an extent, is false advertising of ATi hardware capabilities.

As much as that's true, and nVidia did knowingly say what they did and stout that as being hard fact . . .

. . . ATI just aren't like that. They haven't ever struck me as the type to retaliate in court - they've always turned the other cheek, so-to-say.

does nvidia really feel that self conscience? the 8800 series is great. the 8800gt is a superb product for the money. they dont need to try and trick people into buying this product. my plan was to eventually buy an 8800gt, but now im going to wait for the new ati 3000 series.

naw, I don't think nVidia is really that worried - at least where the 2900 is concerned, but the newer 3800 series are a completely different matter. Like I said before, I think nVidia has been quite complacent in their lead over ATI, and probably were under the impression that the 3800 series would end up like the 2900s did, and now that ATI has proven they're not . . . nVidia feels threatened by it and isn't sure how to respond.

Don't worry - nVidia has been seemingly making mistakes a little more often than they normally do recently, and I think we're going to see another shift in GPU competition leadership within the next year - and with people becoming more focused on image quality recently, especially with the HD craze, I'm really under the impression that ATI will take the lead for quite a while again.

Hell even the X850 XT AGP is more powerful than 2 6800's in SLI.
Nvidia is about to get their ass kicked again.

WarEagleAUIm all for a dumbass company shooting themselves in the foot. ATI said the 2900XT couldnt display full content at resolutions that high, they didnt incorporate UVD. DUH~

All though my HD2900XT box says it can do UVD or can it at low res ?... I don't need UVD so dun care overall. In the end it is sad that nvidia would do this but it don't surprise me though.

after reading all this, am i the only one a little confused. i guess in the end all i want is AMD to do better. not because im a fanboy, but because if AMD does better than there is better competition and prices are lower!

Cold StormI wonder if Nvidia needs to go back to grammer school and learn how to read again? Or, how about tech school and ability to know what "specs" mean?

do you mean "grammar?"
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Sure gets Hot in here everytime there is a new release ati or nvidia. Are you shocked by what a large corperation will stoop to? Ati and Nvidia killed alot of good graphic companies to get where they are, its you people that make it dirty. I am sure soon there will be a post about what Ati did and the nvidia fans will cry foul. from now on its Matrox for me :roll:

To the court room AMD and nvidia! :laugh:

tkpenaltyTo the court room AMD and nvidia! :laugh:

no, give the ceo's of both companies a sword and have them fight to the death!

Ive heard many People Complain about Nvidias Driver Releases, is this true, For me ive been using ATI for the Last 5 years and they suprised me, Drivers are very Solid Since Catalyst 4s. I am currently running 7.6s but when i get the 1950 in my machine ill be running latest.

Random Murdererno, give the ceo's of both companies a sword and have them fight to the death!

Just let them play a game that they both think is good enough on each system. Then we will see if they are the best at what they say they are! Point and key! Top gamer on each port and see whats goes on. Then we can clam who's the best! swords are the age that we pasted up and wasn't apart of. Tech is our day!

eidairaman1Ive heard many People Complain about Nvidias Driver Releases, is this true, For me ive been using ATI for the Last 5 years and they suprised me, Drivers are very Solid Since Catalyst 4s. I am currently running 7.6s but when i get the 1950 in my machine ill be running latest.

actually, from my experience, the 7.6's are best for 1950's.

Intel/nVidia = Australian Liberal Party

AMD/ATi = Australian Labor Party


I know which one is trying to do scare tactics that are coming back to rape them.

ya know what INQ is not reputable for what they say, i wouldnt trust them.

LOL ati rules....

paul06660Hell even the X850 XT AGP is more powerful than 2 6800's in SLI.
Nvidia is about to get their ass kicked again.

no but the PE was close ;)

everything is such a big pissing match nowadays, people forget if one company falls out of existence, prices go up and crappy products are released.

intel igentno but the PE was close ;)

Im pretty sure the 6800's clock was like around the 250mhz range with 8 pixel pipes on the regular. The X850 XT has 520 mhz and 16 Pixel pipes:D. Im pretty sure this is more than twice as fast as one 6800 isnt it?

Woah Mama!Intel/nVidia = Australian Liberal Party

AMD/ATi = Australian Labor Party


I know which one is trying to do scare tactics that are coming back to rape them.

LOL SO F@#ING TRUE! :roll: Especially with the work choices slavery system. I rofl'ed at the "most of labour are union" ad, wow, scary music, but... Do most people even give a damn?

w00t for the free laptop for year 9 to 12 policy if kevin rudd wins! hahaha...>=D. I'd love a laptop!